Rigged in NY? Times: Unofficial Tallies in City Understated Obama Vote

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

Rigged?

Unofficial Tallies in City Understated Obama Vote

A sign supporting Senator Barack Obama on Primary Day in Harlem. Some districts reported that no one had voted for him.

Black voters are heavily represented in the 94th Election District in Harlem’s 70th Assembly District. Yet according to the unofficial results from the New York Democratic primary last week, not a single vote in the district was cast for Senator Barack Obama.

That anomaly was not unique. In fact, a review by The New York Times of the unofficial results reported on primary night found about 80 election districts among the city’s 6,106 where Mr. Obama supposedly did not receive even one vote, including cases where he ran a respectable race in a nearby district.

City election officials this week said that their formal review of the results, which will not be completed for weeks, had confirmed some major discrepancies between the vote totals reported publicly — and unofficially — on primary night and the actual tally on hundreds of voting machines across the city.

In the Harlem district, for instance, where the primary night returns suggested a 141 to 0 sweep by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, the vote now stands at 261 to 136. In an even more heavily black district in Brooklyn — where the vote on primary night was recorded as 118 to 0 for Mrs. Clinton — she now barely leads, 118 to 116.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16vote.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

If the official count continues in Obama's favor, he may gain a delegate or two

[bicentennial_baby]

1. Very interesting...

[blm]

11. Who could've helped make this happen?

I'm sure this is all just coincidence - like 2004.

[bicentennial_baby]

14. I've got an idea...

;)

[jasmine621]

2. Keyword: "Unofficial" nt

[JackORoses]

6. why were Hillary's counts included?

does 'unofficial' mean partial?

[skipos]

3. Kick. nt

[Iktomiwicasa]

4. Damn

This could be ugly. K&R

[TwilightGardener]

5. How would this happen? Does ANYONE believe Obama would not

get a SINGLE VOTE in Harlem? There needs to be some serious investigation of this--glad someone is on it.

[goclark]

10. Unreal! My people are not puppets!

Even if Rangel & his gang set down with all of his buddies in Harlem they could not get everyone of us to vote for HC!

I know my people and there are way too many brothers and sisters that would tell Rangel~~~~ "No" and " **** *** and your Mama too!"


GOBAMA!!!!!!!! :bounce:

[Window]

24. Or in Brooklyn for that matter.

Brooklyn is even more heavily Black than Harlem. Somebody has some 'splainin' to do.




Peace:thumbsup:

[theHandpuppet]

7. As a Clinton supporter...

I would support a federal investigation if there appears to have been ANY vote tampering in this case.

[KittyWampus]

8. wonder if Charlie Rangel's cronies had anything to do with it. And it pains me to ask that

because I like Rangel. A lot.

[goclark]

12. I like(ed) him too but Clinton became his real buddie

with that office move to Harlem.

Now I wonder how many promises/ $$$$$'s were made for that move.

When was the last strong word that you have heard from Rangel?

Impeachment - No! Hillary - YES!!!!

[TeamJordan23]

9. wow. voter fraud right in front of our eyes. nm

[MNDemNY]

13. Try reading the article, not just the op's made up headline.

[JackORoses]

15. 80 precincts and not 1 Obama vote, yet Hillary's were counted.

This is no mistake.

This is purposeful manipulation.

[MNDemNY]

16. manipulation of what? the delegates will be awarded according to the official count.

No news here.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

19. the official count is in the works, may add a delegate or two to Obama

on election night, we only get the "unofficial" results.

After the election, officials canvass all election results, election materials
including poll books, provisional ballots and absentee ballots.

It is easy for election officials to misreport the results from the precinct level,
in fact this mis reporting can be undetectable.

[JackORoses]

26. manipulation of public perception

Hillary really expected to close it out on Super Tuesday.

She needed it to appear as if she had won by very large margins in all the big states. Especially her home state.

[Mme. Defarge]

17. Bookmarked!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

18. EAC report on problems with lever machines in 2004

Can a lever machine produce undervotes? YES. The lever for any ballot item can be jammed.
The EAC reported this happened on levers in the 2004 election.

From the EAC report:

14b. Broken counter
A malfunction of a lever voting machine that renders the machine incapable of counting additional votes on any votable position

14d. Printer failure
A malfunction or interruption of the printer hardware, software, or mechanical components consti-tuting the mechanism for creating a printed result of all contests voted (includes printers on electronic and mechanical lever voting machines).

For lever machines, reasons for equipment malfunctions included stuck levers, incorrect ballot strips, broken curtain mechanisms, and printer failures (e.g., printer unplugged). For punch cards, reasons for equipment malfunctions included voter units not recognized (computer failure), data pack failures, broken counters, and ballot cards not punched through.

See
http://www.eac.gov/clearinghouse/docs/eds2004/eds-2004-part-2-chapter-11/attachment_download/file.

[hedda_foil]

20. Lever machines can produce undervotes BUT not in this way.

If there was a machine malfunction, the actual vote for Obama could not have been recovered as it has been. If thee was a printer malfunction, both candidates votes would have been affected -- if NY uses printers to print out final results on their lever machines rather than just having the poll workers copy down the results from inside the machine. The original recording of the original votes in this way could have occurred through incorrect (fraudulent) reporting of the results in these precincts by the pollworkers inside the precincts or by the workers who compiled the results reported by the pollworkers.

[Stephanie]

21. The official count will appear here, eventually >

http://www.vote.nyc.ny.us/results.html

Summary of Election Results

NOTICE

The certified results and reports of discrepancies relating to the canvass of votes in each election within the City of New York are available for examination and copying at the Candidate Records Unit located in the Board’s Executive Offices, 32 Broadway, 7th Floor, New York, NY 10007.
FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF ALL INTERESTED PERSONS, SUMMARIES OF THE VOTES CAST IN NEW YORK CITY IN RECENT ELECTIONS ARE POSTED BELOW:
2007

[goclark]

22. Where do we look for the Harlem voters that voted "O" for Obama?

[Window]

23. Oh Boy.

Here we go again.



Peace:thumbsup:

[zulchzulu]

25. Hillbot impersonation: YEAH, YOUR A POOOR LOOSER11!

I saw that article and immediately came to the conclusion that to even bring up obvious voter fraud in Harlem would be met by the usual suspects who would rather care that the candidate "wins" versus seeing a major problem with election fraud.

Since it's just poor, black people involved, the story gets buried a week and a half later in the Saturday paper.

[dailykoff]

27. But but The New York Neocon Times

would NEVER tell a lie!

:sarcasm:

[Hill_YesWeWill]

28. that's crazy, more voter disenfranchisement? nt