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TalkAgain Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:12 PM
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PUNDITS ARE CRAZY HYPOCRITES - HRC CANNOT, WILL NOT overtake OBAMA!
I honestly think they keep ignoring this fact just so that they have something to talk about, or to keep viewership numbers up...In a pretend close, razor thin, on the edge of your seat...etc. contest between Obama and Hillary.

The fact is this: She needs to beat him by BETTER THAN 57%-43% margin in EVERY SINGLE CONTEST going forward.

Common sense, the math, the numbers, the totals so far, the calculators, the AP. CNN, NBC...Blah blah blah, and many other smarter people here on DU have crunched the numbers over and over. The answer is NO, she can't!

THEY ALL SAY SHE CANNOT DO IT.

Even her margin in NY, was ONLY 17%, and we just learned this morning, that he will get more delegates from NY because they under counted his votes there!

Going forward:

1) He has the momentum
2) He has more money
3) He has the popular vote
4) He has the Super Delegates switching
5) He has the message
6) He has the personality
7) He has the movement
8) He has the national polls
9) He has the margin to win it out right
10) He has higher favorability
11) He has the advantage over McCain
12) He has the independents who always decide races
13) He has the demonstrated ability to win everywhere
14) He has the track record of being a better manager
15) He has the track record of being better prepared!
16) He has the better team
17) He has the more endorsements
18) He has the more motivated coalitions
19) He has the GOP voters who want to vote for him
20) He has the right judgment to lead, MO.

Ok, so can we please agree that mathematically, it is impossible for her to win now?

Stop watching TV, stop fighting, start getting ready for the real fight against them?

Thank you!
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WilyWondr Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:14 PM
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1. But but but but but
:sarcasm:
she had this all sewn up last year
:sarcasm:
....didn't she?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:16 PM
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2. ... and the Patriots were the class of the field -- destined for the perfect season.
Let's wait until all the votes are counted, shall we?
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TalkAgain Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:18 PM
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4. There is nothing vague about numbers...I love numbers
Concrete and easy to follow...
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:30 PM
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11. Me, too. So give me some numbers to convince me that Obama has it in the bag.
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:37 PM
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16. Thank you for being rational buzz
Is it highly likely that Hillary will win, of course not. Is it very likely that Obama will win... right now it is. That doesn't mean that the contest is finished. The contest should never be finished until the last votes are counted. I think she has a decent chance of tying this up. We will see, I've been wrong before.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:17 PM
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3. She not running to "WIN", she's running for a "VIRTUAL TIE" which can be spun
and then she calls her political favors home.
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TalkAgain Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:19 PM
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6. Nobody will support her if she tries this...NONE!
50% of the Democratic Party will stay home in November.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:23 PM
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8. If she does that, we will all lose.




Peace:thumbsup:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:19 PM
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5. Hell hath frozen over, my friend's Dad is a rabid Repub
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 01:19 PM by 48percenter
I asked her yesterday what he has been saying about Obama. He likes him. He would never vote for Clinton, he doesn't really like McBush and he may possibly vote for Obama in the GE, but if HRC is the nom he will vote McLame.

This man is 75 year old, white Navy Vet, he lives in the one of the reddest areas of Chester Co. PA.
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TalkAgain Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:20 PM
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7. McBush!
:rofl:

Many people are saying the same thing!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:45 PM
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19. Ya know what they say, if the shoe fits...
Get outta the kitchen.

(sorry an old game I used to play with a friend, we would split popular adages, and mix the results) If you can't stand the heat, gathers not moss.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:24 PM
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9. I think neither one of them would get enough votes for the
nomination, and then it goes to the convention.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:33 PM
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14. I think that is what will happen too. It will be something to see, I'm sure.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:28 PM
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10. Math is SEXIST!
Just thought I would get that in here before someone else does.

:hi:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:31 PM
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12. Stop the voting!!
. . . wait, that's the other guys.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:32 PM
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13. actually I think most of the pundits are saying basically this while
not shouting it so that the people can still have a voice
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:36 PM
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15. the Corporate Media is part of the Rethuglican Machine...WHY do Obama suporters swallow whole?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:43 PM
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18. The SWOOMED Obamafolk have morped into "part of the Rethuglican Machine.."
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:58 PM
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22. Why do Hillary supporters hate facts?
Math. Simple. 57% needed in every state to secure a lead in pledged delegates going into the convention. At this point, I think it's fairly safe to say that Senator Clinton is NOT going to win every state and territory remaining in the primary calendar. I think it is also safe to say that the margins of victory will not be in the range needed in every election she DOES win. This is not a hard thing to figure out. Is basic mathematics part of the 'Republican Machine', too?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:42 PM
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17. Another Paranoid post from the Obamacamp--Lectures Lectures.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:47 PM
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20. I've been listening to Pat Buchanan off and on today and he seems
to be shilling for Hillary. What's with that?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:58 PM
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23. Buchanan is a Paleocon...the better sort ..it's the Neocons Krysatl/Rove that are loving on Obama
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 02:00 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:56 PM
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21. Great post except for one thing....
A little too early to dance on Hillary's grave.

Your points are right on, but post like this worry me a bit.

If Obama wins in TX, OH, or PA it is indeed unequivically OVER!

But till then, the Clinton camp will pull every poltical favor, every media connection, and every ounce of her attack machine at Obama. They are in desperation mode --- but they are the Clintons. I would not count her out or Obama the absolute winner ....yet.

We (Obama supporters) must fight on as if he is 30 points behind. I would not want one Obama fan to get compacent or relaxed.

Yes, the victory ribbon is just ahead - but we need to run like hell to March 4th. An Obama win on that day will seal the deal - but for now, he has not won yet.

peace~:)

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