Forced to choose between two groups

[BlackVelvet04]

Why in the world did Kerry and Kennedy decide to pit one group against the other. The AA civil rights groups and the Women's civil rights groups in the past have usually supported each other. Why push forth a rookie Senator and pit one group against the other?

I, for one, will never forgive them for creating this situation.

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Still, whether the candidate wants the mantle or not, whoever wins the nomination will be bestowed (or bludgeoned) with the hopes and legacy of a movement. The victory will be a benchmark moment for the American promise of equality, and the Democrats will add to their partisan quiver a feel-great story that could buoy them in the fall. “Americans are looking for a way to break barriers,” Karl Rove said last week in an interview with National Public Radio (not that Mr. Rove, President Bush’s chief political maharishi, is at risk of helping either Mr. Obama or Mrs. Clinton do this). “They would love to elect a woman president; they would love to elect an African-American president.”


But feel-great story or not, they can’t pick both. Someone will lose. Such is football, Yahtzee and elections. And either Mr. Obama or Mrs. Clinton — and the movements they represent — will be consigned, for the time being, to a status of “almost.”



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/weekinreview/13leibovich.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&oref=slogin

[TwilightGardener]

1. They should have all fallen in line behind the Inevitable Queen, for the good of the party.

Shame on them, for thinking Obama might be a better standard-bearer!

[BlackVelvet04]

6. shame on them for pushing a rookie senator forward

and creating a complete split in the party.

[blm]

14. Shame on you for siding with the Coverup wing of the party who BROUGHT us Bush2.

Try jumping into an LBN thread that MATTERS and see what you can learn....for a change. There are other corruption threads out there, too, but you rarely see ANY Clinton supporter posting in them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3183471

[TwilightGardener]

16. LOL! Thank God for that rookie--God bless him for giving me a viable choice!

[Adelante]

2. Whiner nt

[BlackVelvet04]

11. .......

[OzarkDem]

3. Dem leaders can't deal with being the party of women

Most Dem voters are women, yet even the GOP does a better job of both supporting women candidates and addressing the issues of women voters.

[BlackVelvet04]

8. exactly. n/t

[TheDonkey]

4. Thank you John Kerry for caring about America's future.

more like it.

[BlackVelvet04]

10. what a joke n/t

[blm]

13. Read a gawddam CONGRESSIONAL REPORT for a change. Your posts attacking Kerry are UNINFORMED

nonsense.

[paperbag_ princess]

5. I agree

I hate having to choose....someone has to lose....and imo neither deserves that.

The republicans are better at working as a team. We just have more diversity and encourage thinking for yourself...which tends to make us a herd of cats.

I am moderate enough and old enough to believe that the presidency is something that you have to earn. I don't see anything wrong with giving the right away to the more senior candidate..How perfect would it have been to have a Clinton/Obama ticket. No one would have had to choose. He could have provided the spark and energy that she needs to her campaign and he could have had time to season. There is not reason that we could not have had 8 years of Hillary followed by 8 of Obama.

That would have been perfect in my mind.

but hey...you gotta go with the flow when you don't have any control and fight like hell when you do

[Rageneau]

7. This is not the first election that either Kennedy or Kerry have screwed up.

By their lousy political judgement, they've both almost single-handedly caused us to lose the White House before.

Looks to me as if they both want to do it again.

Kennedy and Kerry have contributed to dividing Democrats with their endorsements-for-trumped-up-reasons.

(Their charges of racism were as bogus as Hitler's excuse for invading Poland.)

[BlackVelvet04]

9. Thank you...

what the HELL are they thinking?

[blm]

12. You have NO SENSE OF HISTORY. Clintons PROTECT Bushes. Why do YOU want that?

You want THIS to happen for Bush2 like Bill did for Bush1?
http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Clintons screwed both Gore AND Kerry out of their elections and you think THAT was good for our country?

You LIKED this BACKSTABBING of a nominee and Dem voters?
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

You LIKED Bill's 3 week defense of Bush on Iraq book tour in 2004?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

You LIKED Carville's sabotage of the Dem nominee and Ohio Dem voters?

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

You think Hillary siding with Bush over Kerry should have gone UNNOTICED?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg


YOu have NO CLUE the vipers you defend and how they have HURT our party and our nation REPEATEDLY by protecting BushInc at so many crucial points over the last two decades.

[BlackVelvet04]

15. For those I didn't respond to...

you're on ignore.