My head is spinning over this comment I found...

[babylonsister]

I was reading an article here and glanced at the comments; this was the first one. :crazy:

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aaad0724-dd13-4ffa-810b-d5d3220ff055&p=1

Interesting: Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified candidate for president based on her 'record,' which she says includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or 'co-president' - and her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder of what that record includes: - As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Patrick Moynihan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.) - Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations, Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. She then chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.' - Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn. - Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign. - Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (?Filegate?) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in 1996, both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over thirty years. - In order to open ?slots? in the White House for her friends the Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for 'gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours. - Another of Hil lary's assumed duties was directing the 'bimbo eruption squad' and scandal defense: ---- She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. ---- She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.

Lots more, and the article wasn't bad either! :crazy:
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aaad0724-dd13-4ffa-810b-d5d3220ff055&p=1

[tishaLA]

1. Lani is a brilliant scholar

I am not a Clinton lover, but many of these are just unfair.

[blm]

7. Some of these are unfair - but some are real though slightly distorted

Whitewater was a complete dog and pony show the Bushies used to get into Rose Law Firm so they could scrub all the files for Jackson Stephens - Poppy Bush's partner in many of BCCI's illegal dealings, and the man who bankrolled Clinton's political career in Arkansas. He was the biggest client Rose Law Firm had.

The rabid GOP base got out of the control of the Bushies on Whitewater, but it certainly provided a great smokescreen, especially for the media who didn't even seem bothered by the deep-sixing of all BCCIs outstanding matters.

[AntiFascist]

18. K&R, you get it !

:yourock:

[surfermaw]

62. Bull Crap...The Bush''s didn't have ties to Clinton

The drugs that they brought through Arkansas, they tried to link to the Young Clinton, Let me tell you idiots that claim to be democrats, that Bill Clinton a poor kid with out a father studied his whole life trying to be one of the greatest presidents of all times, and he did my dears make it to one of the top five presideents of all times..you keep up this dirty crap, and this old lady that has boted democrat all her life is going to vote a republican ticket and gather every democrat she can find to do the very same thing, I am tired of the Obama crap posted about the tClintons, seems to my you should be on the republican board..

[blm]

63. You're wrong. Jackson Stephens bankrolled Clinton's political career AND his primary campaign.

Stephens is the guy who BROUGHT BCCI into this country.

BCCI report was handed to Clinton when he took office and he proceeded to deep-six all its outstanding matters.

You think he didn't? Then show using Bill's book how he explains what he did do with that report.

BTW - I have been posting about BCCI and IranContra and CIA drugrunning for many years - long before anyone heard of Barack Obama. You don't have any sway with me because you haven't the KNOWLEDGE of the congressional record that one can easily find in the National Security Archives - a place that freepers wouldn't be caught dead at.

[WillyT]

2. See... I'm Reliving All That Shit Again Right Now !!!

No more. Fresh start please!!!

GoBama!!!

Please...

:banghead:

[grantcart]

51. One thing that George Bush said about have a relative as President

and it actually made sense was "I got all of his enemies and half his friends".

With Hillary we get all of Bills rumors and half his scandals.

[davidinalameda]

3. I liked Janet Reno

sorry to hear her described that way

better than any of her successors

[trthnd4jstc]

17. I thought Janet Reno ran the office well

Considering the circumstances Ms. Reno was one of our best Attorney Generals. At least the Constitution truly mattered to her, unlike the 3 yes-men, that the Monkey Boy had Nominated!

[Ichingcarpenter]

4. On Guiner....

Guinier is probably most well-known as President Bill Clinton's nomination for Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights in late 1993. A combination of factors led to the failure of this nomination.

An intense media campaign by various conservative critics labeled Guinier 'anti-Constitutional' and 'a quota queen,'. In addition, however, Democratic Senators such as David Pryor of Arkansas and even Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts informed President Clinton that her interviews with Senators were going poorly and urged him to withdraw the nomination.

According to Clinton's autobiography, even Democratic Senator Carol Moseley-Braun of Illinois, the only African-American who was serving in the upper chamber at that time, urged the President to withdraw Guinier's nomination.

President Clinton took the advice of these seasoned politicians and withdrew her nomination, claiming he was unfamiliar with her writing and that he didn't realize that she advocated pure racial quotas as opposed to affirmative action, even though he was close friends with Guinier for years.

President Clinton claimed to be troubled to learn that she supported a system of proportional representation in local elections, where voters would be given multiple votes that he could spread out as he saw fit.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lani_Guinier

[K Gardner]

5. STOP ! I suffer from PTCD - post-traumatic Clinton Disorder - and am having flashbacks ! Good

find, Babylon Sister !

[Vinca]

6. Yike - the part about sponsored bills was eye opening.

"Clinton v. Obama on Legislative Experience: Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years. These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you: 1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site. 2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month. 3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. 4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall. 5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson. 6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea. 7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death. 10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program. 13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda. 14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death. 15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive. 16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11. 17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11 18. Assist landmine victims in other countries. 19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care. 20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system. There you have it, the fact's straight from the Senate Record. Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight months of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced 233 regarding healthcare reform, 125 on poverty and public assistance, 112 crime fighting bills, 97 economic bills, 60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills, 21 ethics reform bills, 15 gun control, 6 veterans affairs and many others. His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law), **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law), **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law), **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more. In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record."

[babylonsister]

8. Thanks for posting this; I thought it's be a bit of an overload in the

OP, but it's just as important.

[WillyT]

10. Wow... Double Wow !!!

:bounce::kick::bounce:

[K Gardner]

11. #18: Assist LANDMINE victims in other countries. (But, didn't Hillary vote Against the Landmine Ban

and FOR clusterbombs? I could have sworn I remembered that she voted against banning landmines. But it's OK because she'll send aid to the victims? Holy triangulation, Batman.

[K Gardner]

13. #20: Puerto Rico Wilderness Preservation. ( Ironic that she needs to win the primary in PR ! )

[trthnd4jstc]

Nice Reply

I like what he has done on the Average. Thank you for this.

[conservdem]

25. This should be in a separate thread.

[Tactical Progressive]

29. Yikes! - That's so dishonest.

Looks more eye-closing than eye-opening.

How many bills did Obama pass, exactly?


Or maybe I'm wrong?

But it looks to me like the Obama supporter comment that you're referring to Vinca, is slyly comparing across two entirely different criteria? Yes? No?

You tell me.

[Flabbergasted]

45. You're right. Neither passed any meaningful legislation.

On the other hand what dem could have up until 2006...when Pelosi and Reid took over. Not a whole hell of a lot better than the previous years.

This leads me to one of two substantial pieces of criticism I have toward Obama being president. Are we merely looking at more of the spinelessness we've seen from the 06 - 07 Dem Congress? The bipartisan talk reminds me of the congressional strategy.

I don't have my hopes up but a change of party in the WH may give the dems more resolve.

[goodgd_yall]

52. Good point

Until 2006, Congress was dominated by Republicans. Hillary sponsored many a good bill, but getting them passed has been difficult.

[sandnsea]

55. Uh, nonproliferation legislation is meaningful

usaspending.gov is meaningful. Ethics reform is meaningful. Step Up summer school is meaningful. Funds for black colleges is meaningful. Obama has a record, Hillary really doesn't considering she's been in the Senate for 8 years.

Obama introduced his first legislation, the HOPE Act, which increased Pell Grants to $5100, and later joined Senator Kennedy on the Higher Education legislation that passed July 20, by a vote of 78-18. That legislation also included funding for Predominantly Black Colleges to assist with counseling, tutoring and other needs of low income students. It also creates the Teaching Residency Act which will create a school-based teacher preparation program in high needs schools to provide each teacher with a mentor, content instruction, classroom management skills, a master’s degree and state certification, and a 2 year follow-up program. On December 22, 2006, President Bush signed into law the “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act,”

Introduced over 200 bills and resolutions, including Obama joined Charles Schumer (D-NY) in sponsoring S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections, including fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls. The Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act is in response to numerous incidents of misinformation in the 2006 election to prevent legal voters from voting.

S692 – The Democracy Index – Will collect election data for comparative analysis, waiting in line, voters directed to wrong polling place, rate and reasons for discarded ballots, provisional voting rates, registration and election day complaints, voting system malfunctions. S114 – Innovation Districts, would provide 20 grants for demonstration projects to identify best practices, retain highly effective teachers including pay incentives, improve teacher mentoring, place outstanding principal at every school, create Teacher Academies, and remove obstacles to innovation.

S116 - Summer Learning demonstration project to provide summer learning grants and encourage new teaching methods.

Introduced Amendment 3971 which improved the guest worker program in the Immigration Bill to include a formula for the Dept of Labor to calculate prevailing wage, require that jobs be advertised at the prevailing wage, and reduce the unemployment rate to 9% before guest workers can be hired in any given county. Lugar-Obama Act to address weapons proliferation.

[goodgd_yall]

50. You got it, Tactical

Will anyone who posted a subthread bother to acknowledge that?

[Tactical Progressive]

65. I wouldn't hold my breath

waiting for an Obama supporter to recant a dishonest argument.

[bilgewaterbill]

30. Experience counts. She'll be ready on day one.

[goodgd_yall]

49. Misleading piece of bullshit---Read carefully, Obama supporters

The first listing is a listing of legislation that Hillary Clinton has authored and PASSED INTO LAW.


The second listing---Obama's legislative efforts are bills Obama has SPONSORED. Hillary has a long list of sponsored bills, but as the post above says, "the list is too substantive" to post. Research will reveal the facts.

[sandnsea]

54. 20 items, like "Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins"

20, that's it, and most of it is stupid.

Obama's is so substantial that it can't all be listed, especially if you include amendments like Step Up summer school and funds for black community colleges, etc.

This is completely fair, I've been saying it for months. She doesn't have a record.

[goodgd_yall]

66. Did you read my post?--Comparing passed legislation to sponsored legislation is NOT fair

What has Obama had passed since he has served in the U.S. Senate---tell me that.

[Barack_America]

72. Who gives a shit when her passed legislation is all fluff?

Obama's passed nuclear proliferation and ethics bills trounce what she's managed to get passed.

[Barack_America]

71. Huh. I guess that 'First Lady' gig really did segue well into her Senate Career.

I guess if she becomes President we can look forward to a lot of lovely dedications, if nothing else.

I've always said that what this nation needs is more ribbon-cutting ceremonies!

:eyes:

[Tatiana]

9. OK this is the part I am going to have to research:

Clinton v. Obama on Legislative Experience: Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years. These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you:
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive.
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

There you have it, the fact's straight from the Senate Record. Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize.

During the first (8) eight months of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced 233 regarding healthcare reform, 125 on poverty and public assistance, 112 crime fighting bills, 97 economic bills, 60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills, 21 ethics reform bills, 15 gun control, 6 veterans affairs and many others. His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded

**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.

In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record. . . . My last point: Obama needs name recognition, he needs to be among the people, so people feel like they have access to him. HRC's debate challenge is more about the fact that her campaign is running low on money and she gets free air-time without spending anything. Would you give up the chance to see 20,000 voters up close and personal to be on a televised debate? No way! Obama, stick to your guns. Debate on your terms, not Hillary's! Go Obama 2008!

Hell, if this is true, are Obama's people saving it for the general election? I'm going to have to see how many bills Obama has authored.

[many a good man]

23. I found 150 bills sponsored by Clinton and 113 by Obama

I thought that sounded too bad to be true...

[Tatiana]

31. But that is for the recent session of Congress, right?

I found 488 sponsored or co-sponsored for Obama; 633 sponsored or co-sponsored for Clinton. Like you, I found 113 pieces of legislation introduced by Obama and 150 for Clinton. But this is just for the 110th Congress.

[sandnsea]

57. Partial list

Obama introduced his first legislation, the HOPE Act, which increased Pell Grants to $5100, and later joined Senator Kennedy on the Higher Education legislation that passed July 20, by a vote of 78-18. That legislation also included funding for Predominantly Black Colleges to assist with counseling, tutoring and other needs of low income students. It also creates the Teaching Residency Act which will create a school-based teacher preparation program in high needs schools to provide each teacher with a mentor, content instruction, classroom management skills, a master’s degree and state certification, and a 2 year follow-up program. On December 22, 2006, President Bush signed into law the “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act,”

Introduced over 200 bills and resolutions, including Obama joined Charles Schumer (D-NY) in sponsoring S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections, including fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls. The Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act is in response to numerous incidents of misinformation in the 2006 election to prevent legal voters from voting.

S692 – The Democracy Index – Will collect election data for comparative analysis, waiting in line, voters directed to wrong polling place, rate and reasons for discarded ballots, provisional voting rates, registration and election day complaints, voting system malfunctions. S114 – Innovation Districts, would provide 20 grants for demonstration projects to identify best practices, retain highly effective teachers including pay incentives, improve teacher mentoring, place outstanding principal at every school, create Teacher Academies, and remove obstacles to innovation.

S116 - Summer Learning demonstration project to provide summer learning grants and encourage new teaching methods.

Introduced Amendment 3971 which improved the guest worker program in the Immigration Bill to include a formula for the Dept of Labor to calculate prevailing wage, require that jobs be advertised at the prevailing wage, and reduce the unemployment rate to 9% before guest workers can be hired in any given county. Lugar-Obama Act to address weapons proliferation.

[goodgd_yall]

67. Is this legislation that has Passed?

Some Obama DUers are listing only some of CLinton's legislation to have passed---passed by what has been a mostly Republican Congress and recently a bare majority Democratic Congress.

Except for the first legislation, all you have listed is legislation Obama has sponsored. Hillary has many worthwhile and substantive legislation that she has sponsored.

[donheld]

12. 'my worst mistake.'?

Anybody know if Bill ever said that?

[MethuenProgressive]

14. What does baylonsister have in common with "democrat equals socialist" dot com?

They both are pimping this Right Wing Smear against Hillary Clinton, word for freaking word.

www.democratequalssocialist.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/more-reasons-not-to-vote-for-hillary-scumbag-clintons






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Nice company you keep, babylonsister.
edit, transposed a b and a

[Ichingcarpenter]

22. OMG!!!!!! Series? What next? Socialize Medicine? Heaven forbid!!!!!

Thaks fer tipping me off to her evil ways.

[MethuenProgressive]

38. It's sickening the way the Obamas are pimping for the Right Wing

It's like they're begging for a McCain win.

[Ichingcarpenter]

41. Pimping? Pimping? Pimping? Pimping?

Careful with that mirror sweetie.

[MethuenProgressive]

44. Tom? Is that you?

[Ichingcarpenter]

47. ....

Congress had requested the non-partisan General Accounting Office investigate the firings; on May 2, 1994 the GAO concluded that the White House did have legal authority to terminate the Travel Office employees without cause, because they served at the pleasure of the president.<5>

However, it concluded that Cornelius, Thomason, and Martens, who all had potential business interests involved, had possibly influenced the decision.<5> Moreover, the GAO report indicated that First Lady Hillary Clinton played a larger role than previously thought before the firings,

With Watkins saying she had urged "that action be taken to get 'our people' into the travel office."<13> The First Lady, who had given a written statement to the inquiry, said she did "not recall this conversation with the same level of detail as Mr. Watkins."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_travel_office_controversy

[K Gardner]

32. David Shuster, is that you?? Seriously, leave BSister alone. Most of us could only dream of being as

well thought of around here as she is. Please cut out the personal attack.

[babylonsister]

34. Ha! I use ignore for a reason. See no evil... nt

[MethuenProgressive]

42. She posts from "democrat equals socialist" dot com and you support her?

Yikes.

[trthnd4jstc]

15. I liked Lani Guanier!

Former First Lady Hillary Clinton, is not a demon. She does play hardball. And, she has worked to make things better. I am supporting Sen. Obama, but I do not hate Mrs. Clinton. Further, noone is perfect, and we all make mistakes. I think that Sen. Obama, out of the 2, best represents my intersts, even though neither 2 represents my interests perfectly. I am certain that most Democrats would think I was a Radical, but, like Mrs. Guanier, I wish for social and economic justice for all people.

[conservdem]

16. Did she really cause the firing of the travel office staff and get

them treated so wrongly? If so, can anyone defend her actions in this matter?.

[Yael]

27. Google up Billy Dale and you will have your answer

Yes -- it was the first thing that turned me against her.

Dale was hired by Kennedy and worked for every administration since.

She had every right to let them go but that wouldn't be sneaky. She had to cause a bunch of drama over it and it blew up in her face. This is one of the main reasons that people don't trust her.

[conservdem]

40. Thanks, but did "she" really have every right to fire them?

And have you ever seen anyone defend her for mistreating these employees?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

Bueller?

Bueller?

[Yael]

48. Yes, she did. The administration can replace any staff they want

the problem was that Hillary wanted to put crony Hollywood friends (with their startup travel business) into place and knew that would be questioned as Dale and his team were VERY well liked by the press corps. She had to create a ruse in order to make the switch.

Thats why it was called Travelgate -- because it was sneaky and dishonest.

[TwilightGardener]

58. Was she part of the administration? Why was it her job to fire the whole office?

[Yael]

59. She was in charge of the travel office

It was her call, not Bill's.

This was well documented and one of the things that set the Clinton's on the course they are on today, unfortunately.

She destroyed Billy Dale's career and drained his life savings (to be exonerated in the end) when there was no need for that kind of scorched earth.

[TwilightGardener]

60. "For my first official act as head of the Travel Office: You're all fired!"

"My next official act: ruining your reputations! Lawyer up!" Jesus, this is the sort of thing that makes me think we shouldn't put her in charge of a Baskin Robbins, let alone the country.

[Yael]

61. If her campaign isn't an indication of her leadership abilities

there are plenty of other examples out there.

I know the RW rabid hatred of her is insane -- but it was things like this that fueled it into the stratosphere.

[madrchsod]

19. this is interesting...."Reading Hillary Clinton's hidden thesis"

"Just as conservative authors have speculated, it was the Clintons who asked Wellesley in 1993 to hide Hillary Rodham's senior thesis from the first generation of Clinton biographers, according to her thesis adviser and friend, professor Alan H. Schechter, who describes taking the call from the White House.

they demanded that this be hidden when she was in the whitehouse or when she ran for president

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17388372/

http://rakesprogress.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/hillaryclintonthesis.pdf
hillaryclintonthesis.pdf (application/pdf Object)


http://rakesprogress.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/hillary-clinton%E2%80%99s-thesis-about-radical-activist-saul-alinsky/
Hillary Clinton’s Thesis about Radical Activist Saul Alinsky « A Rake’s Progress


funny thing about this she refutes saul`s ideas...

[mopinko]

33. wow, dissing saul alinsky?

i don't have time to read this now, but damn. no wonder she wanted it hidden.
obama walks the alinsky walk.
thanks for this. anyone else got info on this?

[Bicoastal]

20. Babylonsister, are you the most beloved DU'er?

I'm guessing at this point, only Skinner could catch up to you.

[MethuenProgressive]

43. It pays to Hate Clinton here.

The Obamas "heart" Hate.

[Bicoastal]

46. Translation--heart envy. Read ya loud and clear.

Here's a Youtube video just for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvZiqpjLZaA

[JimGinPA]

21. WOW!!!

A LOT of things there that I did not know and many others I had forgotten about.:crazy:

[conservdem]

24. self delete

[Flabbergasted]

26. It's a fun read for Obama supporters....but likely written by an avid

RW Clinton hater: "Hillary wrote 'It Takes a Village,' demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint" gives it away.

Perhaps this is one of the Remocrats: "Republican turned left because of Bush."

The Senate record part is quite insightful however.

[babylonsister]

35. Actually, google something from the OP and

you'll see it's all over the place, on lots of sites. But it's the exact same wording, so I don't know who created the original.

[MethuenProgressive]

39. Google and get: "democrat equals socialist" dot com the Obama's new "info" site.

I hate what the Obamas have done to DU.

[Tactical Progressive]

36. No, it's not insightful

Read it more closely.

[Flabbergasted]

37. You're right it is jaded. nt

[Yael]

28. Thanks. I had forgotten about a few of these.

Travelgate still pisses me off incredibly.

K&R and bookmarking.

[Samantha]

53. Al Gore was Bill Clinton's co-president -- not Hillary

This has been well documented by David Mariness, an apolitical historian. Bill Clinton made Al Gore a power-sharing deal in order to coax him to run on the same ticket with him in 1992. And that's exactly why Bill Clinton won that election. He could not have done it without Al.

And during the months of the impeachment debacle, everyone here in Washington was whispering Al Gore was actually running the show because Bill was too depressed to do so. (No criticism of Bill intended, I totally understood). No one, BUT NO ONE, thought Hillary was participating in keeping the government up and running.

[MethuenProgressive]

56. The OP comes with animation:

[ruggerson]

64. I love ya, but this is pure rightwing drivel

n/t

[babylonsister]

70. I love you, too, but much of it is history that is accurate that I'd forgotten

about. I welcomed the reminder.

[GoldieAZ49]

68. NO MORE CLINTONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE

it is the LAST thing this country needs

[Johnny__Motown]

69. K&R

nice post