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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:02 PM
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Obama Vows To 'Do What's Right' (FLIP/FLOP) (FLIP/FLOP)
TBO.com
By WILLIAM MARCH and ELAINE SILVESTRINI The Tampa Tribune

Published: September 30, 2007

~snip~
TAMPA - Barack Obama hinted during a Tampa fundraiser Sunday that if he's the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, he'll seat a Florida delegation at the party's national convention, despite national party sanctions prohibiting it.

Obama also appeared to violate a pledge he and the other leading candidates took by holding a brief news conference outside the fundraiser. That was less than a day after the pledge took effect Saturday, and Obama is the first Democratic presidential candidate to visit Florida since then.

Obama and others have pledged not to campaign in Florida until the Jan. 29 primary except for fund-raising, which is what he was doing in Tampa.

But after the fundraiser at the Hyde Park home of Tom and Linda Scarritt, Obama crossed the street to take half a dozen questions from reporters waiting there.~snip~

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/sep/30/obama-vows-do-whats-right/?news-breaking


I especially like the part about, if he's the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, he'll seat a Florida delegation at the party's national convention, despite national party sanctions prohibiting it.

I also like that after the pledge had taken place to not campaign, Obama crossed the street to take half a dozen questions from reporters waiting there. He's a lying sack of crap! He not only ran TV ads, he also campaigned!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:06 PM
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:18 PM
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2. Practically the same thing was posted here last night, but I am
too lazy to look for it.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:26 PM
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3. Well I musta missed it. Maybe others did also.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:32 PM
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4. If he is the nominee then it won't matter if the delegates are seated, and I don't think the pledge
was signed by the time this was written Sept.30, 2007 (I could be wrong about that, got a link?).



So, what I am saying is that both of your points are not valid. Thank you, please try again.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 09:22 AM
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21. Time for you to move that goalpost again. The OP link specifically says it was AFTER the pledge.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:33 PM
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5. You guys are running out of material. Seriously.
It looks like you're fishing for jabs leveled at John Kerry back in 2004.

Lame.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:13 PM
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6. No flip flop, no broken pledges.
1) His suggestion was that the Florida delegation could be seated if (and only if) the nomination was already decided, and they were not a factor. That clearly is not the case now, and therefore the suggestion does not apply.

2) Answering a few questions from reporters immediately after a fundraiser is not campaigning by any definition or stretch of the imagination.

I am really, really tired of deliberate distortions.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:15 PM
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13. it is too much to keep up with. i think the thread limit is helping
tho. i really noticed that they would post some flame bait, kick it for a few relies, then when someone weighed in with the facts, they would let it drop. little harder to do now that things are moving a little slower.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:42 PM
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14. It never ends...
just when I think I've seen the last of it, and we've moved on to the next distortion...back it comes. Will I ever be able to delete some of these files?

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe repeated the campaign's position that the Michigan and Florida contests will have no role in choosing the nominee, though he left open the possibility that Obama would support seating the delegations if he enters this summer's convention in Denver as the clear nominee.
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ficus1 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:39 AM
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18. Deliberate distortions are the lifeblood of this forum
What would people discuss without manufactured outrage and disingenous misrepresentation?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:25 PM
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7. Another example of Obama's record not matching his current rhetoric
He will seemingly say or do anything to win, even it means costing the Democrats the election by handing Florida and Michigan to McCain.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:54 PM
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:05 PM
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9. Welcome to DU!





:hi:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:06 PM
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10. LOL !!!
:evilgrin:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:44 PM
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15. that doggy must be very busy...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:54 AM
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17. One pooped puppy.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:08 PM
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12. Ok, you need to stop with the spamming .....
that's about the 5th time I've seen that message.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:46 PM
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16. I Live in Michigan, seating the delegates is the wrong thing, Hillary Is Wrong
If she wins this by breaking rules or from some of her husband's cronies being super delegates then there will be a much bigger problem than just Michigan and Florida.


If she does something to win that makes her look "Illegitimate" then this entire party is screwed for a decade. It could be thrown at us every election for years. The worst part, they will be right.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:08 PM
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11. Very interesting . . .
a big k/r! And bookmarked!
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 09:18 AM
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19. Dude, if the writers strike is over, how come the Clinton's writers...
...aren't back to work yet?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 09:18 AM
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20. and there is post saying he is backing away from his pledge of public financing.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:08 AM
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22. Your post would have been much more effective if youhad a picture of flip=flops
just like Republican assholes use.
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