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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:34 PM
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OBAMA: We don't need somebody who can play the game better, we need somebody who can put an end. . .
. . .to the game playing. That is why I'm running for President of the United States of America!

PREACH BROTHER PREACH!

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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:35 PM
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1. EXACTLY!!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:51 PM
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:58 PM
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29. And what makes you such a good predictor?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:59 PM
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30. Obviously you don't know
and yet you claim to know so much..what's that called? Oh yeah, hubris.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:36 PM
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2. How is he going to end the "game" that has existed since John Adams was in the White House?
Chanting slogans? Casting his magic spells over rethugs and causing them to rewrite their platform?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:37 PM
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4. by speaking truth to power
now do what you will with my statement.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:39 PM
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8. That is the funniest line I've seen on DU this weekend. NT
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:59 PM
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31. No one since 1796 has done that?
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:03 PM
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37. ROFLMAO.....
and what power would he be speaking this truth to?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:39 AM
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73. All the clueless Hillary supporters?
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:40 PM
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10. It's a good catchphrase, but ..
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 11:06 PM by andym
The real "game" is obtaining and maintaining political power. And that game will never end.

The best he or anyone else can do is overpower one side for a while.

Funny thing is that if may be able to diminish the use of "all means necessary" to win the game, but only for a while.

I do wish him, Hillary Clinton and the party well in creating this scenario.

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:02 PM
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34. How many pols are going to go against him (and the American people) on this?
That is part of the transparency in Government thing. People knowing (and CARING) what the government reps are doing...
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:36 PM
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3. He's really bringing it tonight!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:37 PM
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5. He builds up to a crescendo, like a good speaker should.
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 10:38 PM by TexasObserver
He is really taking on all the petty little criticisms of the Hillary campaign, and slamming them down convincing.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:39 PM
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He is demolishing her without even referencing her.
He is sticking with WHY HIM not why NOT HER but the message is coming through!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:43 PM
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12. Yes, that was sweet. He addressed it, but in a way that said "Hilla, please!"
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:47 PM
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15. Diminishing -- that is the word I was looking for. He diminished the criticisms.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:50 PM
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22. He obliterated her criticisms and showed them to be transparent, meaningless attacks.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:01 PM
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32. It was a work of art!
You all take care of our guy on Tuesday, aye?

Boy Howdy! :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:02 PM
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35. Poof! Evaporates!
Obama and whomever(if) is helping him frame the words just right are doing a magnificent job!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:08 PM
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45. Obama's key speechwriter is a young man named Jon Favreau
He's a veteran of the 2004 campaign, and he's good.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:25 PM
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57. I thought it was the actor/writer "Jon Favreau"
but, I looked it up and they just share the same name..very interesting article you may have read.

<snips>

Jon Favreau has the worst and the best job in political speechwriting. His boss is a best-selling author who doesn't really need his help, having written the 2004 speech that catapulted him onto the national stage. At the same time, the same boss also happens to be capable of delivering a speech in ways that can give his audience the goosebumps.

But Barack Obama is more than a little busy campaigning across Iowa and New Hampshire right now. So it was Favreau who led the team that wrote Obama's victory speech in Des Moines last week—a moment that prompted the TV pundits to drop months of skepticism about Obama's candidacy to make breathless comparisons with the Kennedy era.

For Favreau, a 26-year-old jean-clad staffer (who is no relation to the comedian of "Swingers" fame) who worked in Obama's senate office, the contrast with the 2004 election could not be starker.

More..
http://www.newsweek.com/id/84756

Jon Favreau the actor
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0269463/ Jon Favreau who quite brilliant, too.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:29 PM
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63. Whew
I was worried I'd hear Obama say "You are so money, and you don't even know it!"
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:57 PM
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68. I forgot that line...and I'm always
using.."That's the money quote"!:P
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:30 PM
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65. Mikie, you are so money and you don't even know it!!
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 11:31 PM by TexasObserver
They are both great guys. The speechwriter is younger than Chelsea, and clearly understands the issues better than her. He says he writes in Obama's voice, and that's a key.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:31 PM
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66. lol jinx
that line is so money and it doesnt even know it.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:52 PM
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67. I love that movie, for so many good scenes.
She's a bunny, Mikie. Go get the bunny!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:12 AM
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70. Here's some money quotes from Jon Favreau,
Obama's speech guy..

When Kerry lost in 2004, Favreau thought he was finished with politics. "After the Kerry campaign, after all the backbiting and nastiness, my idealism and enthusiasm for politics was crushed," he said. "I was grateful for the experience I got, but it was such a difficult
experience, along with losing, that I was done. It took Barack to rekindle that."


So how hard is it to write for someone who has written his own books and speeches to critical acclaim? "People say that, but it's actually a dream come true," says Favreau. "You always hope that the person can match the lofty moment that the writer dreams up. To have someone who can do that makes it a joy to work with him."

Sensing the hype, Favreau catches himself quickly. "I looked at the Edwards people in 2004 and thought they were such Kool-Aid drinkers. Now I'm one of them myself."


The writer I always heard about who worked with Obama was Adam Frankel..so thanks for telling me about Jon Favreau, TexasObserver!





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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:38 PM
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6. Standing O on that too
:woohoo:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:38 PM
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7. GREAT line! nt
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:39 PM
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9. Excellent!
Go Obama! :patriot:
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:40 PM
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11. Oh No, he has fallen for her trap. She said great speeches are bad and this is a great speech
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:44 PM
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13. You can't blame her for hating good speeches since she's so lousy at it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:04 PM
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39. How trite that she lets everyone
know her inner demons..TMI, OTH, it's all good baby.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:27 PM
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58. At least she is smart enough to go first. no way she can follow him without people walking out
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:30 PM
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64. Ladies first,
doncha know:)
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:59 PM
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69. Every Rock Star needs an opening act people know but don't really care about
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:46 PM
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:48 PM
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Yes, because record numbers of people are not turning out to vote for him
:crazy:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:48 PM
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19. Let's seeif you can get into the double digits before your time comes to an end
:kick:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:48 PM
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20. yeah, have a nice stay.
i think you took a wrong turn.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:50 PM
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21. Actually it's Barack Hillel Obama
He's Jewish. The word got out at AIPAC.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:04 PM
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40. I thought it was Barry O'Bama from the Irish clan?
Musta missed a memo...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:06 PM
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44. An argument befitting a Jesuit! Turning a phrase around on itself.
:D
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:11 PM
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52. We have mastered the game of responding to a question with a question
:D
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:52 PM
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24. Why are you spamming this? Is this all you have to offer?
Speaks to desperation, but that's not surprising at all. :rofl:
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:55 PM
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27. Well then. Either way, we deserve what's coming. n/t
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:01 PM
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33. Welcome to DU
enjoy your short stay (again)
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:02 PM
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36. Hill08 is back. . .
LOL
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:06 PM
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43. Yay!! We were running a bit low on racism posts and I only have one thread left in GDP
:crazy:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:03 PM
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38. Watch and Learn.
Your whole perception is about to be rocked.

Get on board.

And welcome to DU. :hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:06 PM
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42. Deleted message
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:10 PM
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49. You made it into the double digits. . .congrats
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 11:11 PM by wndycty
:kick:
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:10 PM
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50. Please Die
Paste Spamming TrollBot


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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:11 PM
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51. Are you copying/pasting now?
Why post the same exact thing again over and over. Is that a TALKING POINT?

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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:12 PM
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53. More like a dying breath
or a swan song? A Suicide Run is the technical term.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:05 PM
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41. You still here...slingin' shit?
Why don't you go back to your outhouse?
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:27 PM
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59. Woot! How ya like THAT pizza?
Thanks, mods!

I wonder what incarnation we can expect within the next 15 minutes or so? :rofl:
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:28 PM
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62. Mod Squad Appreciation Subthread!
:yourock:

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:48 PM
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16. it's just another slogan
I don't get it.

I mean, I truly don't get it. Politics isn't a game. It's deadly serious stuff, and people are falling for the honeyed words of this neophyte.....

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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:09 PM
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47. You're not alone
His appeal reminds of the sort of "appeal" Bush had back in 2000.

And more and more of his supporters are reminding me of Bush supporters in that they're always making excuses for him whenever he makes a mistake. It's scary.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:48 PM
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17. Great line--so true.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:48 PM
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18. His best. Ever.
I am speechless.
Listen to the C-Span calls!!
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:53 PM
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25. The game won't stop
Inspired Americans could be a force and Obama is good at inspiring. But he's fooling people by telling them everything is going to be different.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:08 PM
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46. You say that -- but have you looked down ticket?
Hi neighbor! :hi:

PA-16 has a long time (R) Rep that we are looking to unseat with a (relatively unknown) Dem. This lovely gentleman voted AGAINST S-CHIP and is more RW than Bush.

I hope if Senator Obama gets the nod that it will help us win this seat!

Do you have any contested races coming up?
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:14 AM
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71. I wish
My congresscritter is Todd Platts. He was with the boneheads who walked out of the House this week to defend Fascism.

The ticket drag argument is interesting but I saw a poll recently that showed in Pennsylvania at least Hillary does about as well against McCain as Obama does. Lots of old school Democrats in PA.

Good luck with your race!
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:53 PM
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26. ah the classic Obama sound byte
which he is so good at. I wonder who writes them for him. What will it be at the DNC this year? "no new taxes"?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:57 PM
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28. Tell it, brah!
Give 'em! Obamanos!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:09 PM
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48. Brah? You in Hawaii?
:D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:12 PM
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54. I was for 6 years and I'm
goin' back for good in 2 1/2..my son has lived on Kauai since 1985 so I feel quite comfortable talkin' local. B-) You been?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:13 PM
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55. Yes, I have!! We had a client in Honolulu
Safe travels to you, friend!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:28 PM
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60. And happy trails, safely
traveled, to you, amiga!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:22 PM
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56. That's why I'm supporting Mr Obama n/t
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:28 PM
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61. The sheer game playing hokum of this fills me with admiration.
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 11:40 PM by gulliver
If Obama can gull the dope segment in the GE with bullshit like this, we may actually have a chance. The mere fact that Obama can say this stuff without irony and get away with it truly does constitute a kind of political magic. Whenever I think all is lost because Obama is just roping in the suckers with platitudes, I remind myself of one thing. The GE is filled with suckers too.

The guy has a decent base of sense but a true gift for drawing in the mouth breathers with sideshow melodrama and slogans that by all rights should not pass the chuckle test. The fact that Hillary isn't doing this makes me wonder about her political skills.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:38 AM
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72. Nice!
And how refreshing to hear such words actually coming from a candidate for President. :thumbsup:
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:41 AM
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74. I loved that line. And I loved his policy proposals.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:48 AM
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75. this meshugener really believes all the bs he's puting out.DAMN!
This man will set back the democratic party for another 8 years if he is the nominee.You all want the trick pony to try and win this election....Why not let the minor league player stay on the sideline for another 8 years and let the All Star play this game....Hell, we had this election won, until Obama decided he just had to save us all......help us L-rd!
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