What do we do if we lose this year?

[DiamondJay]

While I don't mean to play doom and gloom, and I think we are likely to win back the White House, I don't think it is any sure thing, as both Hillary and Obama's electability is in doubt. So where do we go from 08 if we lose this year? We will look like the worst losers in the world, but life does, well he hope it would go on in case such a tragedy occurs. Who do we nominate in '12? Do we "shift" in policies for the next election? I think we should think of something to fall back on in case.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. We aren't going to lose.

[JorgeTheGood]

19. Over confidence ...

If Obama gets the nomination the republicans will pound him with ...

Tony Rezko, William Ayers, and Rashid Khalidi and whatever else we don't know about him, considering he has not been tested nor vetted by the MSM (yet -- but it's coming)

BO may be able to fight off one of the charges but not all 3 of them.

That is how the dems lose ... plain and simple.

McCain wins in a waltz.

[fenriswolf]

2. im out of here

they will institute a draft. I do not feel safe since I have technical training from the army I would probably be first on the list IRR be damned.

If fuckface McCain is president I am a ghost.

[FogerRox]

3. Thats what most republicans are thinking.

[billyoc]

4. Start grooming candidates for the '10 midterms. nt

[Spider Jerusalem]

5. We're not going to lose.

Not unless the Democratic Party does something amazingly stupid and gives Hillary the nomination despite her near-certain deficit in delegates come convention time, anyway. Her electability is much more questionable than Obama's; one of our candidates is bringing thousands of new voters to the polls and inspiring large numbers of people who were politically disaffected to become involved in the process. That candidate's name is NOT Clinton.

One suspects you haven't even been paying attention to the numbers in Democratic vs GOP turnout in primaries this year.

[bellasgrams]

11. Well if the party gives the nomination to BO they won't get my

vote. There's just no way after the dirty, nasty campaign he has run. Plus he's not qualified for the job. He can't chant his way through 4 yrs in ofc. And who knows who his advisers would be, but Lieberman is a safe bet for one.

[Moochy]

12. Write her in

[Spider Jerusalem]

22. Dirty campaign? Cite an instance of this, please.

NB: Clinton is thus far the only candidate for the Democratic nomination to go negative. And it hasn't helped her (if anything, the opposite).

[JorgeTheGood]

27. correct -- besides Obama's dirty campaign ...

McCain will be a safer bet than Obama. I don't want BO anywhere near the big red button. He's aleady on record that he will invade Pakistan (without invitation) ... scarry stuff -- starting to sound like even more of a hawk than Bush.

And he never served ... kinda loses my respect right there.

[KAZ]

31. Get the fuck off this board.

[JorgeTheGood]

35. Who are you aiming the 86 at ? n/t

[KAZ]

30. Then get the fuck out of here.

[Vincardog]

6. refuse to recognize the election until every vote has been Clearly demonstrated to have been counted

[Nitrogenica]

7. It is impossible to NOT be able to paint McCain as Bush.

We will win because we haven't played the American people like they are idiots. Americans actually do remember how to think for themselves, it's just been a while for some.

[terrya]

13. I'm begging...literally begging...the campaign of the Democratic nominee...

to use the pic of McCain hugging Bush in ads during the general campaign.

[stevietheman]

8. Losing is unlikely, but at least we'll be rid of Shrub either way.

At least McCain has shown he can be reasoned with, to a point.

[Moochy]

9. That's unpossible!

[napi21]

10. If we lose I suggest you start checking other countries you can

move to. I know I will!

[blogslut]

14. While I don't mean to be gloom and doom...

Keep reaching for the straws stars!

[Trajan]

15. Complacency is a real problem ....

And Democrats have proved themselves to RARELY capitalize from GOP malfeasance .....

We hear no bully pulpit declamations from our 'mouthpieces' ...... rarely ....

[Redstone]

16. "...both Hillary and Obama's electability is in doubt?" What fucking planet are YOU from?

Redstone

[Cheap_Trick]

17. If we lose

it's because those fuckers stole 3 elections in a row. V For Vendetta time.

[anigbrowl]

18. Don't cross your bridges until you come to them.

If the democratic party does lose the White House you'll have several years to draw lessons from it.

[JorgeTheGood]

28. The real danger is ...

losing the Senate along with the White House ... it's now a real possibility.

Then, there goes SCOTUS.

The dems better get their sh*t together before Nov or I'll be back here pointing to this thread saying "Told ya so".

[boppers]

20. If we lose?

And McCain wins?

That's a road to the old bush. We win, super-easy, the next time.

People are fed up with this routine, and want something different.

[JorgeTheGood]

29. It doesn't matter what people want ...

the MSM controls the candidates just like they are giving Obama a free ride right now which means they are picking the dem nomination -- not the people.

After BO gets the nod ... watch what happens.

[Demagitator]

21. Look to the past

If the Repukes win, look back in history, it is by far the best way to understand the present -- and how future events will unfold.

I think even Daniel Ellsbrg wrote about this.

I have not read his books, but I will if they win, I will...no doubt.

Synopsis

In March 1971, Daniel Ellsberg gave The New York Times access to a classified government report revealing the secret history of the Vietnam War. Ellsberg, a former Vietnam Marine, said he violated national security to protest an illegal war. The release of the Pentagon Papers exploded in controversy. Ellsberg was indicted for espionage; charges were dropped when it was revealed that Nixon operatives burglarized the office of Ellsberg's psychiatrist in order to discredit him. Wild Man is the first biography of the man at center stage in one of the most remarkable periods in American history. What drove this cold war intellectual to break the law? A richly detailed tale of the times, this indelible portrait of the hawk-turned-dove who tried single-handedly to end the war will stand as one of the great American stories.

________________________________________________________

http://www.voicesofconscience.com/forward.php

Foreword by Daniel Ellsberg

This is a book that should be leaked into the government. I would like to see it, in digital form, hacked in its entirety into every personal computer in the Pentagon, the White House, State Department, NSA, CIA, and FBI. Is there someone out there who could do that?

That would be a marvelously subversive act. Nothing could be more subversive of the shameful silence to the Congress and American public within those institutions, the tolerance of dishonesty and manipulation, the complicity by those who know better with wrongful policies that endanger lives and our Constitutional order. We might even avoid a repetition, in Iran, of the horrors those public servants saw coming in Iraq and did their very best to avert.

[Eurobabe]

23. If it came down to that, I'd rather lose with Obama

than lose with Hillary. I'd be much less bitter. We all know Clinton has baggage and high negatives, to have her lose as our candidate would be one of those "I TOLD YOU SO" moments.

[tomreedtoon]

24. I'd say the DNC needs to be fired. Everybody in it.

Get some average people with real-world lives and have them become the new National Committee. The people in power...and much as I like Dean, he's one of them...have claimed to be the "experts" for the last decade or so. A sports team with such a losing record would have the fans clamoring for the heads of the coaches and a few of the players. Why should the Democratic rank and file reward such behavior?

That is, IF the Democrats substantially lose in 2008.

[BenDavid]

25. If you lose with obama then please do not ever listen to another

silver tongued devil......damn! And that is exactly what will happen if you send in the Minor league player over the All-Star.....But then again I guess you folks would rather have the pony.....Hell, we had this election won until obama-issah decided he had to save us all......

[MadBadger]

33. Spouting Bullshit.

[JorgeTheGood]

36. correct ...

one thing for sure ... obama will not get another shot at it EVER ...

which is little consolation considering another 8 years of republicans in power and the dems will probably never get another realistic shot at the white house regardless of who they run.

[fortyfeetunder]

26. It will be a long, rough road

World support will be more like restrained sympathy....

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

32. Screenshot, blame, scapegoat, and then ban all the DUers who supported the loser.

Or we could all get drunk and naked . . . except for Proud2bAmurican; we'll just let him get drunk.

[quantass]

34. Consider exchanging your USD to Pesso's...likely to be worth more

Never thought i'd be alive to see hte day that even my Canadian dollar is more powerful than the US dollar...and growing...if the democrats lose again this year consider applying for citizenship in Canada or Mexico.

[BlackVelvet04]

37. If we lose this year....

I'm done.

[Yossariant]

38. I agree that it's looking less sure that the Dems will win the White House.

The DNC looks like a bunch of idiots and the Republicans are gleefully solidifying the center for McCain who, again, is no Huckabee.

They are saying that the Dems CAN'T get us out of Iraq no matter what they promise and Obama is talking about invading Iran and Pakistan, so McCain is the best choice.

Howard Dean needs to go and the entire DNC needs to be swept out. Buffoons.