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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:37 AM
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Edwards Said to Be Leaning Toward Clinton
Barack Obama flew down to the home of John and Elizabeth Edwards on Sunday for a secret meeting that didn’t stay secret for long. Both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have courted their formal rival’s endorsement, but the Associated Press reports that Edwards is leaning toward Clinton, in part because “Obama has been less attentive.”

The couple has been impressed with Clinton, who has more effectively courted them since the 2004 vice presidential nominee dropped out, people who talk to the Edwardses say. Obama has been less attentive, they say, and some of those close to the Edwardses have been annoyed that Obama has continued to ridicule him for once saying his biggest weakness is that he has a powerful response to seeing pain in others.

Still, since Edwards has left the race, Obama often praises him in public. This week he told Wisconsin voters that Edwards will “be a major voice in the Democratic party for years to come, and I want him involved and partnering with me in moving this country forward.”

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:41 AM
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1. Edwards has always gone his own way, by his own lights.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him *not* jump on Obama's pretty shiny bandwagon.
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adabfree Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:41 AM
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2. Clinton? ugh if he does....sell out
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:44 AM
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7. If he doesn't. . . . crusader?
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adabfree Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:46 AM
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10. if he doesn't....sell out lmao
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:50 AM
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12.  If John Edwards Endorses Hillary Clinton It will Be A Complete SELLOUT By Edwards!
If John Edwards Endorses Hillary Clinton It will Be A Complete SELLOUT By Edwards!
Posted by DaLittle Kitty in General Discussion: Primaries
Thu Feb 14th 2008, 10:24 PM
Your Comments Are Invited......... Anyone care to deny that such a move by our Official Anti-Corporatism Candidate would be a sellout of monumental proportion, as Hillary Clinton is undeniably... The Queen of Corporatism?

Please Johnny Stand Strong... Do Not Cave! Stand on Principle! We can still trust in you TODAY... But NEVER again if you sacrifice our sacred trust in you demonstrated by our hard earned dollars contributed, and our steadfast personal support.

You will make US out to be the fools... Think hard before you do this... If you are even thinking of such a decision.

If Obama is not ready, is not capable and is holding baggage both known and unknown and of course Hillary has baggage as well... then just sit tight... Let THEM be the fools.. You will, by standing firmly behind your stated principles and beliefs, be the one that EVERYONE WILL EXCLAIM... "It Should Have Been Edwards... and WE WOULD HAVE WON!" "If ONLY... WE had chosen Edwards... WE WOULD HAVE WON!"

That is what YOU want the People to Say... That THEY were in fact the fools... Those who lacked the character, political maturity and foresight ... to see the light through the opacity of the thick media fog... those who did not support you now and before... but can only lament that they did not in the end... wishing that they did...

Let the vast throngs make their error and live with it... Do not compound the error by jumping in bed with those who thought that they listened but in reality... did not.

Go now Johnny... Think twice... You are young... just a few years older than this writer who has met you and trusted you... to do the Right and appropriate thing.

Play for US... WE trusted you to stay in it to the finish... You suspended your campaign and we were, and many of US ARE STILL WITH ... YOU! Stay with US now... Let history as you say play itself out...

If you stand aside and let the history makers manufactured as they are ... make their history you may well come out shining brightest of all in the end.

Best to you, Elizabeth and the kids! J@JRFCDC
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:56 AM
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18. Clinton is closer to Edwards on the issues than Obama. nt
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:26 AM
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25. Ohhh so she(like Obama and Edwards) refuses
to take lobbyist money and PAC money? Really? :sarcasm:
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:42 AM
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3. Obama hasn't been "attentive" enough to him?
I'm sorry but that reeks of "I want attention even though I'm out of the race" BS to me.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:51 AM
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13. Exactly WHOSE words are those? Answer that before you slam Edwards.
"Obama hasn't been attentive enough". WHO said that. Did Edwards? Did Obama? WHO?

Please don't find new ways to slam Edwards based on some unattributed "quote".
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:42 AM
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4. I wonder who in the Edwards camp has talked to the AP confidentially? nt
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:44 AM
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8. makes you wonder, huh?
if these reports keep leaking from close confidantes, and being reported in the M$M, it's just as good as a signal that he prefers Clinton. I would be so disappointed if Edwards doesn't put this rest, once and for all. It's probably the Clinton camp leaking this crap to the press.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:51 AM
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14. Right, because G-D forbid, it couldn't be the Obama camp...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:00 AM
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20. How would the Obama camp benefit by revealing this? Short answer: they wouldn't. nt
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:56 AM
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17. babylonsister...would you kindly let poster #14 know that they can bite me....
he/she/it is on "Ignore" for a reason. Have no idea what they're saying, and if I cared they wouldn't be on "Ignore".
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:42 AM
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5. as a former edwards supporter, i find this difficult to believe....
it's still all speculation at this point. john doesn't strike me as someone who needs either candidate to be "attentive" to make a decision. His best bet would be to remain neutral as Al Gore has promised to do.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:43 AM
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6. Less attentive?
Edwards had better hope for his sake that this isn't the story of why he endorses. Does he really want to look like a fussy prom date that expects to be courted? I don't think he would make a decision based on vanity.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:45 AM
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9. Well I guess we may find out the truth about John Edwards...
I hope he doesn't sell out over ego.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:52 AM
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15. Sell out to Obama's ego? I hope not either.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:48 AM
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11. I wish Edwards would either endorse or shut up already.
It's ridiculous that he thinks he can make Hillary and Obama jump through hoops for him or get down on their knees and beg for his endorsement.

I think Edwards supporters are smart enough to make up their own minds. Why should it matter which of the remaining candidates has been the most "attentive" to one of the candidates who dropped out?

Plus a lot of States already voted since Edwards dropped out. Somehow it seems that voters are able to make decisions without John Edwards giving them guidance from above.

Sorry - but it makes me cringe to think about this white guy sitting in his Carolina mansion saying how Barack has the wrong attitude. He is not "attentive" enough and tried to ridicule Edwards' compassion.

Obama was just saying that compassion and an ability to empathize is not really a weakness. Being disorganized and losing important pieces of paper the whole time. Now - THAT'S a weakness! B-)
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:10 AM
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21. He's not the one that has gone to the press
He's been lying low since he announced his suspension. It's the media that keeps bringing up his "endorsement". He's getting more press now than he did after his second place finish in Iowa.

zalinda
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:21 AM
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22. OK
But Edwards could end it all by saying that he will not endorse during the primaries.

Maybe he should say that he will support whichever candidate gets the most elected (pledged) delegates.

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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:55 AM
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16. Obama doesn't need this loser
...nice finish in Nevada, John. You were probably the most overrated candidate in my lifetime.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:59 AM
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19. Obama doesn't need this loser--Obama?
16. Obama doesn't need this loser

...nice finish in Nevada, John. You were probably the most overrated candidate in my lifetime.
Look! A bunny!
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:30 AM
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26. Rodeodance at this point in the race
He's just gonna wait till there is a clear winner and he will endorse then. My guess he will get a position with either candidate's staff.
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:24 AM
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23. Figures. he's lost in damn near everything political he's ever touched
Edwards couldn't get re-elected to his senate seat in NC if his life depended on it, couldn't win the primary in 2004, was on the losing ticket to a fucking chimp, couldn't get past the first couple of weeks of the primary in 2008. I like John fine as a person, but every campaign he's been associated with has turned to shit. Them's just the facts.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:26 AM
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24. Edwards has no influence in NC
Why do people around the country wait on him to influence them? I just don't get it
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ShadesOfGrey Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:31 AM
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28. I'm a JE supporter from NC...

and I'm having a hard time getting behind either of the remaining candidates. IF John decides to endorse someone, I will definitely take his reasons for doing so into consideration.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:30 AM
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27. So I guess John Edwards is a self-serving, petty fake????
This report suggests that the Edwardses have "been impressed with Clinton, who as more effectively courted
them since 2004...". Furthermore they're "annoyed that Obama has continued to ridicule him for once
saying his biggest weakness is that he has a powerful response to seeing pain in others."

I am sitting here in my dining room with a big WTF above my head!

So, this is being decided over who is better at kow towing and giving "attention" to the Edwardses?

So, this is being decided, based on hurt feelings over a joke?

John and Elizabeth have every right to endorse any candidate. However, to make this decision
based on petty, irrelevant bullshit makes me wonder if John Edwards was EVER serious about
corporate corruption, reforming government, taking on the neocons or giving hope to the
middle class.

I struggled between Obama and Edwards. It was torture. My views were more in line with Edwards, but
I broke for Obama. Now, I feel like a fool for ever struggling at all.

Geez, is ANY POLITICIAN who they say they are? If this is all about a popularity contest and who can kiss
ass more efficiently, then I am sorely disappointed in both of the Edwardses.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:35 AM
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29. It's hearsay: "people who talk to the Edwardses say"
Can the M$M do anything besides play manipulation games?
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paperbag_ princess Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:45 AM
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30. like Edwards policies
but frankly I just saw Edward's anti-Clinton message as nothing but strategy. When Obama started making strides after Iowa, Edwards aligned himself with Obama to take the "front runner" down. It looked to me to just be strategy.

It may not be that he wants his ego ticked as much as he wants to see which candidate actually cares the most about his endorsement. Who wants to back someone who does not even care all that much whether you are on their side? He may be seriously trying to determine who will actually push his agenda the most....and who will give him the best platform to keep his message alive...

It doesn't all have to be selling out...sometimes compromising to get something is a heck of a lot better than nothing.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:49 AM
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32. That's true and I expect him to endorse a candidate at the convention in Denver
:)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:47 AM
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31. Hard to imagine he'd endorse her given what he said about himself and Obama at the debates as being
the candidates for change while she is business as usual.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:53 AM
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33. I read this, and it sounds like John's pissed Obama hasnt kissed up to him enough
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