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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:58 AM
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Hillary has Obama on the RUN.. ..STOP!!!... THIEF!
Obama's Plagiarism CAUGHT by McCain's Economic Adviser

Senator Obama’s Economic Speech in Wisconsin

"Those covering Senator Obama’s economic speech in Wisconsin today could be forgiven if it felt like déjà vu all over again. Voters may ask themselves that if Senator Obama cannot produce his own ideas on the campaign trail, how will he solve new problems as President?"


Senator Obama’s only “new” ideas were ones that Senator Clinton proposed months ago:

His “new” proposal for a national infrastructure bank is one that Hillary proposed August 8, 2007. “I’m proud to co-sponsor Senator Dodd and Senator Hagel’s National Infrastructure Bank Act that we just introduced to establish a federally-backed independent bank that will evaluate and finance large infrastructure projects by subsidies, loan guarantees, and bonds backed by the full faith and credit of the United States.” Rebuilding America speech, 8/8/07; S. 1926, 8/1/07

His “new” proposal to create 5 million green collar jobs was proposed by Hillary on November 5, 2007. “And three, to move us from a carbon-based economy to an efficient, green economy by unleashing a wave of private-sector innovation in clean energy and energy efficiency. I believe that will create at least five million good new jobs from clean energy over the next decade.” Energy and Climate speech, 11/5/07

Google CEO Eric Schmidt praises Hillary’s plan to create 5 million Green Collar jobs, 11/5/07: “By emphasizing the connection between promoting a green efficient economy and job creation, Senator Clinton’s plan seeks to harness the power of technology and innovation to address one of our most pressing global challenges…The goal of producing 5 million new jobs can be achieved by private sector investment and bipartisan support for increased research and development in efficiency and clean energy.”

In addition, while Senator Obama was busy resuscitating Hillary’s policies, he failed to offer real solutions for the most pressing economic challenges that Americans families face. As Hillary explained this morning, “a plan that fails to provide universal health care, fails to address the housing crisis, and fails to immediately start creating good paying jobs in America again will not turn the economy around and provide the real relief that our people need. We need real results not more rhetoric.”

http://thepage.time.com/another-clinton-camp-memo-on-obama-economic-speech/


In talking to my friend Kellie, we agreed these facts are important to choosing the "right" candidate for our next president:

"I like a plan. When I read Hillary's action plans on every issue I am convinced she is operating at a level that Obama has yet to achieve. Meaning, her priorities are clear, she outlines details, she is ready to hit the ground running.

Obama? not so sure. When the dust settles, and it will, and the tough questions come, we will see that Obama's plans are look-a-likes to many other candidates before him.

I don't like the doors he has left open for social security and private accounts, I don't like his mandate on health care verses mandatory, universal. I don't like the emotional base of the voters that in an instant can be "hurt or uninspired" but the tough policies and choices he must make and I simply am getting weary of the speeches.

I long for a candidate that just get's it done. With Hillary she has been vetted, you can't throw much more at here. With Obama one wrong step and that inspiration he brings with be very uninspiring."

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:59 AM
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1. chuckle thank you
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ctdem200 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:00 PM
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2. Hillary WI event cancelled tonight.
chuckle chuckle
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:01 PM
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6. weather? Someone was chuckling in advance yesterday.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 12:02 PM by robbedvoter
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:25 PM
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28. awww, Rodeoclown was so looking forward to it, didn't you see the 30 threads posted yesterday?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:00 PM
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3. What about Hillary's "plagiarisms"
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 12:01 PM by ProSense
Is this plagerism:

New Clinton economic message has echoes of Edwards

By Caren Bohan Sun Feb 17, 2:05 PM ET

MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (Reuters) - White House hopeful Hillary Clinton has a message for hairdressers in Wisconsin, postal workers in Ohio and autoworkers across the United States who are struggling financially: She cares.

The former first lady and New York senator is hoping blue collar workers will provide her with a crucial base of support as she tries to erode the lead her rival Barack Obama has opened in the tight race to become the Democratic nominee in the November presidential election.

Clinton is courting working-class voters with a new message of economic populism similar to the theme of John Edwards, the former North Carolina senator who dropped out of the Democratic race in January.

Edwards never gained enough momentum to be competitive with Obama and Clinton, but the New York and Illinois senators are trying to woo his followers, many of whom were passionate about his pledge to take on "corporate greed" and bring change to a government he said had sold out the middle class.

more


Is this plagerism:

Video: Elizabeth Edward on Hillary's healthcare plan, she ripped off Edwards'

more



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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:10 PM
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11. Hillary admitted to Edwards she improved her HCP thanks to his Plan..
I heard her say it to Edwards at the debate..

Pro-Sense...Do you know the meaning of the word PLAGIARISM?

"plagiarism"

noun
1.a piece of writing that has been copied from someone else and is presented as being your own work
2.the act of plagiarizing; taking someone's words or ideas as if they were your own


You can try and spin it for your pathetic candidate however, it won't wash!

Obama has never written or had an original idea in his life. Unless, you include the "Fairytale" books he authored as a loose autobiography.. which after careful study contain many factual misrepresentations.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:00 PM
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4. your subject line deserves a big REC. its GOOD.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:39 PM
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31. K&R
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:43 PM
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47. It would be good if it weren't misleading.
I've looked up a couple of points: S. 1926-- Neither Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama PROPOSED the bill. It's in committee according to thomas.gov. They both co-sponsored it. Yes, Sen.Clinton co-sponsored before Obama...I object to, "Senator Obama's only "new" ideas were ones the Senator Clinton PROPOSED months ago." Sen. Clinton did not PROPOSE it on August 8, 2007.... she co-sponsored it on August 2, 2007 This wasn't a "new" idea for HRC or Obama...S.1926 was referred to committee on 8/1/2007.....both HRC and Obama signed on later.

www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SN01926:@@@P

____________________________________________________________________________


Climate Progress.org reported on October 9, 2007 Obama's excellent energy and climate plan. (Their words...not mine) One of the points from Obama's plan written about in OCTOBER is:
"Invest $150 billion over the next ten years to develop and deploy climate friendly energy supplies, protect our existing manufacturing base and create millions of new jobs." My point here is that you are saying Sen. Obama's proposal to create 5 million green collar jobs came from Hillary's speech on Nov. 5, 2007. Well, Climate progress was reporting and accrediting job creation, among other things, to Obama almost a month earlier! (underlining mine)

www.climateprogress.org/2007/10/09/obamas-excellent-energy-and-climate-plan/

________________________________________________________________________________

What Hillary said this morning about Obama's failure to offer real economic solutions is equally ridiculous. Maybe she has failed to listen to her opponent's plan. It's out there. How ludicrous to say Obama fails to offer soutions....sounds like desperation to me.

I'm sorry if you are weary of Obama's speeches....may I suggest you quit listening because obviously you don't hear what he is saying. I'm also sorry to post your discrepancies but I CAN NOT let this go unanswered as if it is fact.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:00 PM
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5. I have to agree
he should just drop out of the race right now....TODAY!!!! I mean Hillary the Great has won 8 in a row and is about to make it 10 tomorrow...she has so much more money than Obama...oh, what? ...huh?...wait....OHHHHH.....nevermind
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:04 PM
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7. Oh, my, lookie what I found -
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 12:31 PM by Vinca
"As president I know I can't kill, jail or occupy every nation we don't agree with and I cannot just wish that all the terrorists be wiped off the face of the Earth." - Hillary Clinton, 2/10/2007

That sure sounds familiar....

"If you got an interdependent world, and you cannot kill, jail or occupy all your adversaries, sooner or later you have to make a deal." - Bill Clinton, 4/16/2005

Wait, wait, I know what you're going to say - IT DOESN'T COUNT!
:rofl:



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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:05 PM
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9. That's awesome. haha! What a hypocrite Hillary is.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:06 PM
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10. That doesn't count.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:13 PM
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14. You still retain an allergy to links?
why not! When a "LIE" will serve your purpose!

You are as contemptible as your candidate!

:rofl:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:18 PM
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21. Now you want links? Hillary's campaign is desperate. Remember
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:33 PM
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30. Here is another
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:46 PM
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48. Oh lookie what I found...think you'll enjoy this...see reply #47..above. n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:04 PM
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8. Whoopi Goldberg basing switching to Hillary based on similar observation - video here
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 12:05 PM by robbedvoter
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:15 PM
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18. thank you..robbedvoter.. The "O" GateCrashers, just lost their lunch..
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 12:16 PM by Tellurian
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:27 PM
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29. you know Hillary's campaign is in the shitter when she's depending on Whoopi for PR
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:06 PM
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35. You know the same thing when Obama asks.. "GOT HOPE"?
he's looking to TAKE whatever you've got.. But first give em' your money!
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:40 PM
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36. it's a pity you had to give Hillary your Soul, otherwise you could Change your mind
sadly, you are so invested in her, you will go down with the ship.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:17 PM
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41. Jacko...No one has my Soul but ME!
Is that what Obama asked from you, your SOUL?
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:12 PM
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12. It's Kind Of Sad....
Watching the desperation of the Hillary supporters here.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:13 PM
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13. They know their clock is ticking. Wisconsin tomorrow will just add to the momentum for Obama.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:17 PM
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20. It will add to Obama's "dementum", friend
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:14 PM
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16. TRULY!
:hi:
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:14 PM
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15. Obama the not-so-original copy-cat.
:rofl:

These are 'pebble attacks' that are being
flicked at Obama testing the waters. Just
wait until they start chunking boulders, it
ain't gonna be pretty. Let's see if he holds
up under fire with the grace and poise that
Hillary has or, if he turns petulant and petty
much like the resident frat boy.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:15 PM
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17. "... one wrong step and that inspiration he brings with be very uninspiring."
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 12:15 PM by Straight Shooter
He shouldn't have set himself up as Mr. Clean. When you pretend to be better-than-thou, the smallest flaw will be magnified tenfold. Jeez, we saw this same stuff in high school, when Goodie Two-Shoes got caught behind the bleachers expressing her hormones with a classmate, and everyone talked about it for weeks. The rest of the kids did the same thing, but we didn't pretend like we were all better than that.

FWIW, I went to high school in a small town. Doesn't get much more brutal than that. The engendered rumors were always far worse than the puny facts upon which they were based.

edit typo
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:15 PM
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19. HAHAHAHAHAHA....
Right...on the run...sure she does.

Puhlease.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:19 PM
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23. Obama looks like "ERKEL"... when he's caught in LIE!
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 12:20 PM by Tellurian
Family Matters, alright! But NOT to Obama.

All he cares about IS Winning!

:rofl:
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:22 PM
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26. Thats interesting because hillary
looks equally as frightening whether she's lying or telling the truth...

Past v future.

Barack has more money, more delegates, more momentum, and a far more passionate group of supporters behind him. Sorry, Barack doesnt seem to be on the run to me.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:02 PM
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33. Hillary looks radiant and HAPPY... and she now knows she can WIN!
anybody can WIN against a "faker"!
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:04 PM
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34. HAHAHAHAHAHA...
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 01:05 PM by yourguide
Riiiiight.


I want to order 1000 pairs of whatever glasses you are wearing.


Oh and if anybody can win against a faker that would explain why Barack has more delegates, more states, and more of the popular vote in his favor.




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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:13 PM
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38. LISTEN to Me! People will not be duped by Obama!
Everything Obama has he can keep (for now). We'll have more delegates in the END!

This IS Obama's first RODEO...He just got dumped publicaly!
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:15 PM
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40. I have an awesome idea...
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 02:22 PM by yourguide
why dont you listen to me, or the other voters.

And lets be honest here, this is Hill's first rodeo as well - she didnt run to be first lady.

It's Hill doing the duping, you just bought it hook line and sinker.

Arent you the same knucklehead that made it sound like a scholarship to Harvard was akin to a "free ride". If you get a scholarship to Havard, you certainly earned it.

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:25 PM
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43. I see, you also copy my words and ideas as well..
I abhor BORING PEOPLE! :boring:

:rofl:
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:27 PM
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44. Nothing personal
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 02:29 PM by yourguide
but it's quite obvious you didnt get a harvard scholarship either.

I copied neither your words nor ideas, I responded to your foolishness, and showed your own hypocricy.


edited to add: I abhor stupid people.



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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:02 PM
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52. Nothing personal at all..
and arbitrary statements spoken as absolutes are the height of hypocrisy..

A dictionary is your friend, perhaps your "only" friend. :hi:
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:09 PM
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53. ?
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 03:13 PM by yourguide
"and arbitrary statements spoken as absolutes are the height of hypocrisy.."

Um, you might consider looking at your own statements in that light.

And it might do you some good to become friends with the dictionary, perhaps Harvard would have given you one of those freeloader scholarships if you had.


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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:19 PM
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22. I love the smell of desperation in the morning.
Keep up the good work, every time Hillary and her minions do this kind of thing, Obama gets new supporters.

BTW, if you think that Hillary could beat McCain in the GE, I have some ocean front property in Kansas you may interested in.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:21 PM
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24. If His supporters are all like him... Good Riddance!
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:21 PM
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25. If Hillary wins Wisconsin, she should publicly thank Tellurian.
It is posts like this that will make all the difference in deciding the nomination.

Great use of bold and underline! B-)
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:23 PM
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27. Borrowed Ideas and Borrowed Rhetoric
Not only doesn't he have any new ideas. He can't even come up with his own rhetoric.

And this guy is supposed to be our saviour?

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:00 PM
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32. The Wizard of Oz hiding behind the curtain..
Is nothing more than a media creation propped up by political operatives!

I doubt he's capable of saving himself, nevermind US!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:47 PM
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37. Well done, Tellurian
Can you just imagine what the Obamaites will do when the Right Wing goes to work on vetting Obama if and only if by some miracle he makes it to the general election? They'll all be left sitting there in shock.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:15 PM
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39. Sitting in shock...then gnashing their teeth and whining!
thats when my IGNORE button finger will attain muscle status!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:21 PM
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42. I wonder why McCain is on Hillary's side on something like this? hmmmmmmm
He knows who wants and needs to face
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:33 PM
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46. I heard McCain IS related to Michelle..
and she is against Obama's presidential aspirations..
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:48 PM
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49. I heard you're related to Karl Rove. NT
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:56 PM
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51. Brent is thinking...
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:29 PM
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45. This explains the overwhelming feeling of deja vu I get when listening to Obama.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 02:29 PM by Perry Logan
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:51 PM
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50. Do you know the story
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:10 PM
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54. The level of depseration around here is incredible.
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