Senator Edwards KNOWS that Governor Deval Patrick ENDORSED Obama: The "plagiarized speech" meme...

[CorpGovActivist]

... is doing nothing but pushing Edwards closer to endorsing Obama.

After all, Edwards knows that it is extremely common for gifted speechwriters from one campaign (e.g., Deval Patrick's) to be loaned to another (e.g., Obama's).

And the inept yammering of Clinton supporters, trying to make this a fabricated "issue," reeks of a sore loser's desperation.

The http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoTlNF2KNBw">Deval Patrick endorsement may be viewed here. Looks to have taken place on Boston Common, on the bandstand.

Keep yammering, desperate Clintonites.

- Dave

[saracat]

1. So if someone 'endorses" you, it is impossible to plagerize them? Who knew?

[CorpGovActivist]

2. No. It simply means that the likelier answer here is that there has been a campaign staffer ...

... loan, with a winning line recycled from a prior campaign - with permission.

- Dave

[saracat]

7. Whole speeches? Uh, uh.

Biden got in trouble for much less.

[CorpGovActivist]

9. Biden didn't bother to try explaining. Clinton must sure be desperate. Maybe she wants...

... a whole debate on just this one non-issue?

- Dave

[saracat]

11. Hardly. There is way more dirt on Obama and I hope it comes out now.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

14. Let's hear some.

[CorpGovActivist]

18. Yeah, I'm interested in hearing how low Clintonites will go to put another Clinton in the WH.

[CorpGovActivist]

42. .

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

45. Nope.

:shrug:

[CorpGovActivist]

48. Oh, well. Maybe they'll just plagiarize some of the Clintons' scandals, and pin them on the O's.

[CorpGovActivist]

15. Not an exercise the Clintons want to make first strike on, I assure you.

[CorpGovActivist]

34. Well?

:shrug:

[Alexander]

49. Because you obviously hate him so much.

Facts be damned, let's just slime a good Democrat, right saracat?

:eyes:

You make me sick.

[CorpGovActivist]

50. But the Clintons are uniters. Prepare to sing Kumbaya. Or else. n/t

[Tatiana]

51. Dirt? Like what? Do tell.... n/t

[CorpGovActivist]

54. Yeah, I'm waiting to hear that myself. n/t

[CorpGovActivist]

40. Clinton wrote It Takes a Village, too, right?

:eyes:

[Benhurst]

6. Yeah, that's good to know.

Oh, well, as Hillary Clinton said, "I know why the caged bird sings."

[CorpGovActivist]

8. Poor gilded, caged Clinton. Boo friggin hoo. She "sings" all she likes.

[Benhurst]

12. Come back when you are sufficiently well-read to get the point.

[CorpGovActivist]

13. Oh, I know the literary reference quite well. Doesn't fit her.

[Benhurst]

16. Then read the thread. You obviously aren't following it.

[CorpGovActivist]

17. I think we're in agreement. Hillary plagiarizes lines that don't even fit her.

[Benhurst]

22. According to the original post, it's all right to "borrow" from a supporter.

Hillary didn't actually claim "caged bird;" but since Maya Angelou is a supporter of hers, she should be able to according to the original post.

Our candidates have become so scripted and packaged I'm disgusted with them all. Hollow men (and women), spouting meaningless phrases to a public which can't hold a thought between farts.

Oh for the days of the Lincoln/Douglas debates! Stevenson and Eisenhower look like giants from the perspective of the 2008 campaign. I even find myself missing Richard Nixon.

:hi:

[CorpGovActivist]

27. I long for Lincoln-Douglas, as well...

... however, this fabricated story about plagiarizing is just downright desperate.

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

43. "I even find myself missing Richard Nixon." I agree more, the more I see the Clintons...

... in action.

- Dave

[qazplm]

25. no, but if someone tells you

hey why dont you use this, and then you use it, then yes in that case, which is what we have here, it pretty much is impossible to plagiarize them unless we utterly change the definition of the word.

[CorpGovActivist]

29. Let the downright desperate Clintonites yammer on this. They're looking...

... more and more pathetic by the hour.

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

39. Stop.

Semantics.

; )

- Dav

[CorpGovActivist]

33. I often find myself admiring your posts. This one reveals...

... a certain lack of understanding of how campaign speechwriting works, however.

- Dave

[dchill]

3. Senator Edwards also KNOWS...

that Hillary "borrowed" his economic and health plans.

[CorpGovActivist]

5. Ah. Well. She's just an open-minded sort with no real ideas of her own. Easily excused.

[jsamuel]

4. Obama took more from Edwards than he did from Patrick.

[CorpGovActivist]

10. If he borrowed Edwards' messages sincerely, I'm all for that. I was an Edwards supporter.

[jsamuel]

20. just his words, not the plans

Clinton took the plans

[CorpGovActivist]

30. She'll use the plans to unstick the campaign bus at the first sign ...

... that's what she has to do.

Having been used as the leverage for the Clinton campaign bus before, I know whereof I speak.

- Dave

[jsamuel]

35. Obama has already thrown them away. That is the problem.

[CorpGovActivist]

38. I dunno about that. I'm not sure Hillary has actually gotten her hands dirty...

... with actual poverty-related work. Obama has.

- Dave

[flyarm]

21. he borrowed nothing..he stole them!! and pissed off most Edwards supporters!!

at least those that were fully informed!

fly..a Edwards volunteer..when Obama's campaign slogan was "hope " until he stole "Change" from Edwards.

ahhh and yes i saw all those lovely Hope signs in the snow in Iowa!! and saw them get removed and made into Change in NH!! and SC

you can fool some of the people, some of the time..but those who know better ...will not be fools..

[CorpGovActivist]

31. Well, only John and Elizabeth know, at this point...

... who they believe more likely to actually proceed with the core of John's campaign on poverty and related issues.

- Dave

[LibraLiz1973]

24. I was an Edwards supporter and until he walks the walk like Edwards, he can keep

his hands and his mouth off of Edwards message.

[CorpGovActivist]

32. I'm eager to see/hear John and Elizabeth on who they believe...

... most likely to proceed with the core components of their important agenda.

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

61. I thought John was looking at Hillary when he said "the forces of status quo"...

... at the debate.

Otherwise, I wouldn't have donated to him.

If he backs her, I'll feel that he made a Faustian Bargain.

- Dave

[kentuck]

19. But who did Deval Patrick plagiarize?

That's what I want to know. I'm sure he is not the first to express this idea?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

23. I've said this elsewhere...

It's a pretty common rhetorical device and, in retrospect, a pretty obvious source of quotes. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Paul Wellstone didn't use this tactic a time or two.

[CorpGovActivist]

28. Yup. Why else would Bartlett's still be in business?

[CorpGovActivist]

26. Much of our political discourse is derivative of others' sayings.

DU is a case in point.

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

41. If it's in Bartlett's, it's considered open source. n/t

[Alhena]

36. More meme - that's one popular word

[CorpGovActivist]

37. Forgive me. I plagiarized it. No idea who first used it. n/t

[CorpGovActivist]

44. Mark Penn said I could use it. n/t

[jackson_dem]

46. As if Edwards would care either way about this

[CorpGovActivist]

53. We'll see; maybe he smells the reek of desperation coming off Mark Penn...

... and doesn't want to catch that taint.

- Dave

[Scurrilous]

47. K & R

:thumbsup:

[CorpGovActivist]

60. .

:thumbsup:

[Cha]

52. hilaryland is whimpering like sick

little jackals that missed their feeding frenzy at the zoo.

[CorpGovActivist]

55. Poor things. No plum jobs for them. The gravy train is over, and only Mark Penn...

... is guaranteed to get paid full dollar on the dollar when all is said and done.

- Dave

[Radical Activist]

56. Hillary is looking for any excuse to avoid substantive issues.

Obama is out there talking about why he's a better candidate than Clinton.

Hillary is throwing out distractions like this one.

[Cha]

57. hilary didn't learn all there was to know

in kindergarten..that's where she messed up.

[CorpGovActivist]

59. And Bill is no Professor Higgins, it would seem. n/t

[CorpGovActivist]

58. Ah, well. There's not much left but the kitchen sink now. n/t

[pointsoflight]

62. Regardless, these campaign themes started with Obama in 2004...

...then Patrick used similar themes in 2006, and now Obama continues with that message today. But it originated with Obama. Anyone who looks back to Obama's run for senate in 2004 knows that.

[CorpGovActivist]

63. Penn gambled and lost on this one. n/t

[CorpGovActivist]

64. Did I hear right? The Teamsters are endorsing Obama? More Edwards-leaning...

... unions to to do the same?

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

65. As an Edwards supporter, I'm caring less and less...

... about whether he endorses now.

My hope is that he secured the spot he wants with Obama: Veep or AG.

But, honestly, his best bet for preserving his political cache with his supporters now may be to just remain on the sidelines, with his handful of delegates in his back pocket.

- Dave