I've lost the battle.

[gateley]

I've succumbed to allowing a candidate's supporters to send me running in the other direction.

I've always tried to be supportive and understanding of the PASSIONS that are driving us in this election. And I've, in my wisdom :eyes: I've encouraged others expressing their frustrations to listen to the CANDIDATE and not the supporters.

But no more.

Barack, you'll be getting my vote in the primary.

Great job in promoting your candidate, Clinton supporters.

[Bicoastal]

1. We are TOO taking the high road! nt

[wellstone dem]

27. My road's higher than yours.

:bounce:

[CorpGovActivist]

2. !

:thumbsup:

She drove my family and me away, before the first primary/caucus vote was cast.

We were excited when she jumped in. She killed all excitement.

- Dave

[ecstatic]

3. Same here. Today's developments were simply over the top

I have no words for them.

[lse7581011]

4. Proud To be Number 5! n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. All are welcome.

There is peace and serenity in the light.

[BlackVelvet04]

6. how silly.....

:eyes:

[gateley]

14. I know that my feelings don't matter in the big picture, but they matter to

ME. And I'm really sad that I do feel this way -- and maybe I'm disappointed in myself, too.

Anyway, up until today I felt it was silly, too, but some things were said today that really hurt.

[BlackVelvet04]

24. Yeah, I know all about those things said that are hurtful....

lots of them flung at Senator Clinton and her supporters. Remember teargate?

[gateley]

30. Yes - another ridiculous "issue" - I agree. Both sides have had their fair

share of unfair, over-blown charges against them.

[BlackVelvet04]

41. If you know that then I'm not sure why you think Hillary supporters are

so much worse. I've seen some really nasty threads about Bill Clinton, Hillary, their marriage, etc. etc.

I was an Edward's supporter first and the Obama supporters even started attacking him the other day...I think Twinkie was the word they used for him.

Last week I had the flu and felt like crap and I still spent over 2 hours trying to give out information....an Obama supporter and I tried to have a conversation about the health care plans and it was hard because I was attacked for passing on information. I wasn't slamming Obama's plan I was explaining why I though Hillary's is better but I still got slammed. That's when I started giving it back as good as I got.

I'm sorry you felt hurt by something said but I don't think you are being very objective about the other side's supporters.

[gateley]

53. Honest - I don't think the Hillary supporters are worse -- both sides have their

gems! And they both have supporters who stoop REAL low.

It was just that it happened to be comments by Hillary supporters that pushed me in the direction I was leaning toward. You know-- the Tippint Point!

I understand your frustration about not being able to have a discussion about an issue. For too many it's just a platform to present their jabs.
I've asked for help and enlightenment several times (because I have a LOT to learn) and for every 10 smart ass responses, there are one or two who try to sincerely answer my question.

Hope you're feeling better!!

[JimGinPA]

16. Once Again, Proving You Just Don't Get It...

The OP was about negativity & you come in with a negative post.

[BlackVelvet04]

23. Oh yes, and Obama supporters have been all sweetness and light...

:eyes:

[noiretextatique]

29. i concur eom

[jillan]

7. Same here, except it was the Obama supporters that pushed me.

Especially the ones telling me to stfu and that I am an asshole.

Nice unity from both sides :puke:

[MadBadger]

13. You Bidenites Split Pretty evenly

[jillan]

19. yep - We are not sheeplike, that's for sure.

[yourguide]

42. You're right, you're not sheep like

you are a bit more like a wolf.

edited to add poster decided to insult me in another thread completely unprovoked.

[gateley]

26. Yes - but we still support each other in their opinions and candidate choice

even if we don't agree.

We really forged a bond under Biden, and continue to respect each other.

Right, guys? :grouphug:

[susankh4]

17. Let's see....

They told me I was a "weak woman" for supporting Hillary.

They told me to get off my "high horse" cuz I was too new to DU to have an opinion.

I am now using the "ignore" button... and my DU is shaping up very nicely.

[jillan]

20. The politics of Rove - attack the messenger, not the message.

on edit - welcome to DU :toast:

[gateley]

28. I don't mean to use a broad brush -- I admire many of the

Hillary supporters, and I understand the crap comes from both sides.

It was just some choice comments from her supporters that pushed me over the edge today.

[gateley]

32. Yeah - the personal attacks are really disappointing. nt

[Singular73]

8. Actually, the candidate pushed me over the top today.

The plagarism thing is Rove-style politics.

I will not be a part of it.

[Catherine Vincent]

9. Yeah, right.

:eyes:

[Beausoir]

12. ...

:spray:

You make me laugh!

[CountAllVotes]

10. I was an Edwards supporter

and I switched to Obama at the last minute. I just could not vote for Hillary Clinton. If she is the nominee, I will vote for her regardless but know I'll be doing it with little enthusiasm.

:dem:

[Yael]

11. I am afraid to ask what I missed

But welcome! :grouphug:

:hi:

[K Gardner]

15. Gately !!! K&R

[yourguide]

18. I support obama

Because I feel he believes in the change he is talking about and because I think he can work with the republicans to get things done.

I am sorry, the clintons have been so divisive just during the primaries that they have pushed me further and further away from feeling ok about voting for them.

anyway, welcome aboard!

[blogslut]

21. Thank you

May this madness end soon. I would gladly give up my newfound Texas specialness if Ms. Clinton would drop out before March 4.

[Justitia]

22. Her campaign advisers are killing her campaign. I like Hillary, I HATE her campaign posse.

That means Wolfson, Penn, Shrum, McAuliffe, Carville, Begala and the other cast of thousands who continue to promote REALLY BAD POLITICAL STRATEGY - they suck and they are way beyond their freshness date.

They have done her a great disservice and I wonder if she sees it or if she endorses it, I don't really know.

Her group has the horrendous tendency to target other Dems, trying to marginalize other Democratic factions, with a very nasty edge.

In the beginning, it was what gave me pause about her candidacy. I like Hillary, but I LOATHE the idea of having these clowns pulling the levers of triangulation, parsing, etc., etc., all over again.

Hillary, I'm sorry, but I can't go through all this again, like we did so long ago.

[writes3000]

25. As an Obama Supporter, I do NOT want you to make your decision based on...

a few rotten apples here. Can we really know what is motivating those bad apples? Are they real Clinton supporters?

I'm sure you can make up your own mind without my two cents. I do think there have been over-the-top posters on all sides.

[Sapphocrat]

34. Ding! Ding! Ding!

THANK YOU for making this point before I did -- or at least making the opening:

When someone decides to support HRC because s/he's disgusted with BHO supporters, s/he's an idiot.

When someone decides to support BHO because s/he's disgusted with HRC supporters, it's warm welcomes all around.

[gateley]

39. I'm not sure if I'm understanding the point of your post, but

it wasn't solely the supporters who "decided" for me. (Although I may be an idiot anyway.)

I've been leaning this way but still trying to hold myself impartial and objective - today after someone I admire greatly was attacked with glee by some HRC supporters, I just thought, fuck it. Not a big deal. I made up my own mind - they just put the finishing touches on it.

[Sapphocrat]

49. But you just said:

"I've succumbed to allowing a candidate's supporters to send me running in the other direction."

I'd think that a well-grounded conviction in Obama's plans and policies would send you running toward him, not running away from HRC, or her supporters.

But, whatever -- I guess I'll never really understand, because I made my decision long before the Obama supporters started to really set my teeth on edge.

In any case, congratulations on making up your mind, one way or the other. It feels much nicer to have finally settled, doesn't it?

[gateley]

52. Probably should have worded it differently. I understand what you're saying.

I was still pissed at the posters for what they said, so I also succumbed to being whiny.

I've been neutral ever since Biden withdrew wanting to make the best choice between the two. And I feel I have in choosing to thrown my hat in the Obama ring.

[NMMNG]

56. Indeed

I decided not to vote for Obama based on what he's done and what he stands for. But the behavior of some of his supporters has definitely reinforced my stance. If they are indicative of what the "Hope and Change" he is bringing to America I don't want any part of it. It doesn't reflect anything I've ever defined as hope, and it's not the kind of change I'm looking for.

Nonetheless your point is very true.

When someone decides to support HRC because s/he's disgusted with BHO supporters, s/he's an idiot.

When someone decides to support BHO because s/he's disgusted with HRC supporters, it's warm welcomes all around.

That just goes to show you how very biased they are.

[gateley]

36. Excellent post! And exactly the same two cents I was giving others.

I've really tried to remain objective because I don't want to HATE the person who wins the election.

I've been inching toward Obama anyway, but today just pushed me all the way.

Thanks for your concern and level-headedness! :pals:

[NJmaverick]

31. I understand where you are coming from

I understand.

[gateley]

43. I know. Thank you.

:pals:

[Arkansas Granny]

33. There have been some nasty things said by supporters of both

candidates in the last few weeks. There are some people here right now who are doing nothing but stirring up trouble. You can't allow people like that to make up your mind. You need to base it on your knowledge and agreement with their positions on the issues that matter to you and not by a lot of ugly remarks made by people that you don't even know.

[flyarm]

35. and obama supporters have sent me to sitting home possibly in Nov!

its had the opposite effect on me ..answering the OP post..

sorry but they have made me sick to my stomach!

fly

[emilyg]

58. I'm with you.

[Straight Shooter]

37. Your sentiments have been clear for quite some time.

Another Obama supporter vanity post.

[gateley]

48. You're mistaken. My "sentiments" have been neutral and equally supportive

as critical of both candidates. Those who know me know this is true.

It IS a vanity post for ME, done in the heat of the moment and because I was still smarting -- but NOT as Obama supporter.

[MADem]

54. I concur with your assessment. This is a disingenuous "they MADE me do it" effort.

And "vanity" is certainly a lovely way of putting it. I was more inclined towards "horseshit" myself!

:rofl:

[NC_Nurse]

38. Hi Gately!

Welcome to the Obama Camp. I'm sorry you got here because of the kind of crap that's been
flying around GDP lately, but I'm glad you're joining me in supporting Obama - for WHATEVER
reason. :-)

I feel that both candidates have made some mistakes and some of both candidates' supporters have been
needlessly cruel and hateful. I decided I liked Obama's message and I am excited about all the new people he's bringing
into the process. I hope you will find more reasons to support him as things develop. :hi:

[rodeodance]

40. guess all the Chelsea hate didn't put you over. sad. oh well.

[gateley]

51. The posts that pissed me off today

have to do with EITHER of the candidates - nor of their families or offspring. They were directed at another person that I hold in the highest regard, the posts weren't necessary, and those who were gleefully enjoying them happened to be Hillary supporters.

I don't condone those type of ugly attacks by EITHER side (the Chelsea-type), by the way.

But I'm guessing you weren't speaking to me, just trying to get your point across.

[Tatiana]

44. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Don't let Oprah win!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, welcome aboard! :hi:

Here's to electing a filibuster-proof majority in Congress and a Democratic President in the WH :toast:

[Adelante]

45. Aw, I love you, Gately

:loveya:

[gateley]

55. And you know I love you, WesDem!

:loveya:

[tekisui]

46. The way Clinton has ran her campaign, from the beginning is just embarrassing.

I was amenable to both of them, since Edwards had lackluster finishes. Obama's ability to inspire new voters drew me towards him. Hillary, with her attacks shoved me away. This latest bit is too much. I am really hoping for an Obama win, I will be voting for him as well.

[RamboLiberal]

47. While Obama is my choice in the primary

The Hillary bots and the Hillary campaign are rapidly sending me to the point I will refuse to vote for her in the GE if she gets the nom. I'm totally pissed they are trying to win on smear tactics that must have Karl Rove chortling!

I'm not speaking of all Hillary supporters of course, just those here who are acting like total idiots. They're starting to make the koolaid drinking Bushbots look like amateurs.

K&R!

[Mike03]

50. I understand, and I have always respected the hell out of you, Gately.

Your posts have always impressed me, as has your support of Biden. It does make a difference to me as well how supporters behave. I have issues as well with both supports of Obama and Clinton.

You take care. Your posts here have meant so much to me, especially your passion for Biden and your sustaining of his campaign here at DU.

Peace.

[gateley]

57. Thank you, Mike.

YOU mean a lot to me - I hope you know that! :hug: