Be Still My Heart, Hillary...she's giving a bang up Enviro Speech /C-Span...

[KoKo]

Be Still My Heart, Hillary...she's giving a bang up Enviro Speech /C-Span...

Small Business on the Internet....like E-Bay...emphasis..to Global Marketplace....She want's farming to be close to local...when she buys an apple in New York State..she wants to know it's not grown in China...Greenhouses in states with Short Growing Season...Methane from Dairy Farms to help our Carbon Usage Problem...and Wind, Solar, Retrofitting our Aging Buildings with energy efficient windows and insulation to save money...Re-building our Infrastructure which is crumbling..."so you don't have to hold your breath when driving over a bridge for fear it will collapse!"

Give Medicare the right to negotiate for Low Drug Prices. Cut out "subsidies that Bush gave to HMO's which is a waste...and put that into a National Health System. She says "Sick People are being Discriminated Against....because they are thrown off their insurance plans.

She says...Get rid of the Oil and Gas subsidies because the companies had them when they "needed them...but they DON'T NEED THEM ANYMORE... and Take that Money and put it into Renewable Engergies that will save our country from Imported Oil Dependency."

She wants "low interest College Loans for Students that they can work off if they do Community Service for a few years like Teaching...Health Care.

She wants to provide DENTAL CARE along with HEALTH CARE! She's proposing the Congressional Plan and limit on the Premium you have to pay for Health Care. She's saying it's "Private Health Insurance Options" and REGULATE the Insurance Companies....

She says "We need to Reign in the Special Interests" and give the money back to the Middle Class. Grow Jobs for Clean Energy and Infrastructure Repair. Stop the EXPORTING OF JOBS...TAKE AWAY THE INCENTIVES for JOBS TO LEAVE! She's GOING to RAISE TAXES ON WALL STREET CEO'S.

Restore Confidence and Competence in our Government... She says HALLIBURTON and SPECIAL CONTRACTS HAVE REAPED BENEFITS ...but they WILL NOT ANYMORE in her ADMINISTRATION...

She wants to Restore our Moral Leadership in the World and she will start Immmediately to Repair this Damage that Bush and Cheney have done and the World will breathe a sigh of relief when Bush/Cheney leave."

She says she wants to withdraw troops starting within 60 days...but she wants to do it carefully....but she will immediately start a plan. Iraqi Government has to take responsibility. "When we get the troops home...let's make sure we take Care of their Health needs."

She says "FORCE SHOULD BE USED AS A LAST RESORT .....NOT...A FIRST RESORT.....

Alot of work needs to be done...she says "We haven't been called to do anything...George Bush didn't ask us to do anything." "Americans want to feel PRIDE again." "We need to think about the Next Generation." "Hire Me for this Hard Job..."
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MY COMMENT ON THIS:

It's a VERY IMPRESSIVE SPEECH!......Even though I know ...it's a bit of Edwards, bit of Obama, bit of Bill and a bit of maybe what Hillary really believes. And, because she is hoarse her voice isn't as harsh and flat as it usually sounds. She gave a speech like this in New Hampshire in a Forum that was very good... BUT...I don't know if I can trust her ...anymore than I can Obama.


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[blm]

1. Funny, she didn't think those were imperatives in 2004 when Kerry said them.

She and her team thought Americans should wait another 4 years before those things were done.

[yourguide]

2. speeches mean nothing remember?

"words mean nothing."

-Hillary Clinton 2/2008

[KoKo]

3. Funny you say that with your Obama...stuff. That's what worries me

I don't think his speeches about "Hope and Change" mean anything more than Clintons. Neither were the candidate I wanted. I'm posting because she gave a very impressive...closer to Populist Speech than I've ever heard her give. I'm a Populist Democrat. I'm still listening to both of them to find one I can support...since Gore and Kucinich are out of the race.

I still try to have an "open mind." I wish other DU'ers would keep their minds open, too.

[yourguide]

6. I love Kucinich

but I do disagree with your statement about hope and change. Clinton claims to have all of this experience but she's my senator and she hasnt done anything for my state, Schumer smokes her. She promised universal health care years ago and we never got it.

I also am skeptical of her "populist message". I think Barack is worth about a million, the clintons are worth what 50 mil to 100 mil? Who is closer financially to understand that populist message.

The one thing I do know is Hillary hasnt been able to get much done. I want to give someone a chance that might be able to get something done.

What I also know is I want to have hope, I want to believe this country can be so much better than it is now. All Clinton has offered in that category is to berate Barack claiming he offers "False hope", she hasnt offered me any hope.

Sorry, I feel you on Kucinich and Gore but I feel Obama will be leaps and bounds better than Hillary.

[KoKo]

9. Did you post on that thread in GD that I posted in the wrong place?

I deleted that thread and posted this in the proper forum. What's your problem? :shrug:

[yourguide]

13. No prob, it was just double posted in the primary forum

[KoKo]

17. I did the best I could..when I discovered my mistake.......

I alerted the mods...I deleted the post in GD then posted here..and it disappeared ...nowhere to be found.

So this is the post...I hope it stands. If it offends you...please put it on IGNORE....I did the best I could.

[yourguide]

24. No no no...

I didnt mean to insult you, they have just been trying to crack down on spamming.

[Carolina]

18. exactly, words are cheap

HRC and her supporters can't have it both ways.

When he gives a bang up speech and goes on to win primaries and caucuses, they say he's all hot air and cheap words. Yet when she gives a good speech, she's brillaint?!:shrug:

Hmmm: double standards and hypocrisy.

[Lucinda]

4. Thanks for the heads-up.

Appreciate it! :)

[Tom Rinaldo]

5. Thanks for capturing so many of the details for us here

That's pretty rare on DU nowadays.

[KoKo]

14. I was typing as I watched listening...and it's better than I could capture...

but...as I said...I'm on the fence between Obama and Hillary. I did the best I could..

Thanks for your "thanks." It really was an impressive speech. I'd like to now hear Obama's counter to it. I can't vote until May 6th...so I'm still engaged and interested in how the process is going.

[zabet]

7. Thanks . nt

[Yurovsky]

8. She & Tyson Chicken sure did a number on the environment in Arkansas ...

nothing like pumping billions of gallons of chicken innerds into rivers, lakes, and streams.

Not to mention the bang up job HRC & her friends in Washington have done to the environment in Iraq...

[KoKo]

10. Maybe she and Bill have learned from their "Mistakes" or they are Craven...

What can I say. She gave an incredible speech. :shrug:

[blm]

11. Yeah - where has she been for all these years? Protecting BushInc for decades LED

to the worst environmental stewardship of Bush2.

Clintons REALLY want to convince the GULLIBLE who haven't paid attention all these years that THEY are the answer.


Why screw over Gore to protect Jackson Stephens on WTI, Bill? You really didn't care that Gore, the people of Ohio and WV were hurt as long as you protected Stephens.

[KoKo]

15. blm...what if Hillary is not BILL? How would we know?

and...you know I'm on your side about Robert Parry's work...and others.

[blm]

22. What CAN she do, open the books and spotlight Bill's legacy as BushInc cleanup

man? That's NOT going to happen. She has to protect Bill as much as she has to protect BushInc now.

SHE runs as the experience the TWO of them shared leading this country.

It's HER legacy, too.

[KoKo]

26. What if she would do it...in some way. I don't have any idea where

Hillary comes from...because she was attached to Bill. I gotta believe there's "some stuff there." Maybe she WOULD DO SOMETHING... sadly the probability is that she won't.

But...she gave a good speech. I thought it was worth posting about...in the detail. And blm...I tried to do a good live blogging of what she said. I'm not some Hillary BOT...

I'f you've ever read anything by me...you know i'm "GORE/KUCINICH...maybe Edwards...and no one else.

Just so you know where I'm coming from. It was a good speech...she gave another one in New Hampshire way back.. I really wasn't a Clinton I supporter...but given what I've seen in my life...from Nixon on Down...I don't know what the hell to think about ANYTHING anymore.

[Tom Rinaldo]

19. Well she voted AGAINST Bush Cheney's Massive Energy Bill

And you know what type of Energy Bill Bush and Cheney Support. Hillary's Democratic opponent voted FOR that Bill.

[blm]

25. And when the rubber hit road what did Bill do on WTI? Protect BCCI criminal Stephens, AGAIN.

You all excuse and excuse and excuse Clintons and their betrayals of ALL of us AND our last two nominees as they have protected BushInc and you try and throw a flashlight on some small issue to distract from the OVERALL BETRAYALS on the BIGGEST issues - betrayals that have gone on for decades at this point.

Betraying Kerry and Gonzalez years of investigations:
http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Backstabbing Kerry 2003-4:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

Defending Bush FOR THREE WEEKS on the very issue of his terrorism and Iraq war decisions Kerry was attacking:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

Carville sabotages Ohio Dem voters:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

[KoKo]

29. But...blm...which candidate will Prosecute all this? Who should we vote for ...for what you say

about the Investigations going back to BCCI and the Savings & Loan Rip Off and all the CRIMES?

What do we do? :shrug:

[blm]

31. BCCI is still going on - one continuing crimewave that never ended thanks to Bill.

.

[KoKo]

32. blm.....WHAT CAN WE DO! Which Candidate?

I hear you post after post keeping ON this ISSUE...I AGREE WITH YOU!

WHO? :shrug: WHAT? (you don't even know what I know about the "S&L" thing from personal experience..but I'm with YOU and Robert Parry)...but WHAT can be DONE...

Who is the CANDIDATE who will DO INVESTIGATIONS? The ONE you "really trust?" :shrug:

[blm]

45. Boston Rally Feb 3, Obama was offstage when Kerry told crowd investigations WILL happen

and I doubt he would have made that statement if he hadn't run it by Obama first.

The Senate and congressional investigative lawmakers always needed a cooperative Dem president to access documents and declassify them - the stonewalling past presidents have hindered every investigation instead of facilitating them. I believe Kerry is trusting Obama will be the cooperative Dem president we always needed - and with senate and congress doing the investigating, he can still remain above that battle while pushing for domestic issues and solutions.

ALL a president has to do is COOPERATE....ACCESS the documents...and DECLASSIFY them for investigators.

[Carolina]

20. touche!

words versus actions

[Marie26]

12. She is sounding more populist

IMO she's going to get Edwards' endorsement - she's doing a lot more to incorporate his message.

[KoKo]

16. It's not a bad thing to push both Hillary and Obama...Leftward, though...

:shrug:

[rodeodance]

21. I believe she will work her butt off to get those things accomished. That I KNOW.

[KoKo]

33. I'll give her credit for trying...and I'm sure not one who would be dealing with the Campaign Trail

day and night..day and night. Sure..they travel with "hairdressers and wardrobe assistants" these days...but still it's grueling. Eating those "chicken dinners" and sleeping in a different bed every night and the "on the road" rock star syndrome where they don't even get to "bed the groupies" for "ego relief."

I don't know how they all do it. It's not something I'd ever want to do...unless I thought my EGO..or THE ISSUES were SO IMPORTANT that it Pre-EMPTED...my WHOLE LIFE.

Maybe that's part of the problem we have these days with our candidates. Their ego and Mission is soooo OVERWHELMING they can't see past the "Forest for the Trees." :shrug:

[rodeodance]

35. none of would do anything if we did not have egos. yes. rough on them all.

[KoKo]

36. I hear her saying that....and I want to believe her..cause I'm Not an Evangelical

looking for a "Rally...which most Americans from Red State to Blue State are looking for. The Peace Marcher who takes "snippets" from folks who where here in America while he was a "kid in Indonesia" ...because OBAMA is NEW...he doesn't have the PAST of AMERICA to deal with... If he becomes President...HE WILL!

[rodeodance]

23. Thanks--i head bill talking of her enviromentsl-econic plan. Th usa would

greatly benefit from such a proposal.

[KoKo]

27. I think some could say Obama is moving her "Left" so she Panders...BUT...I've not heard Obama

give the speech that I've heard tonight and in New Hampshire Forum...where Hillary does her "Unplugged" thingy.

Maybe it's fake...I have all the same worries that many of you do about her and her hubby.. But, shouldn't we still try to listen to what she says since this race is still ongoing?

:shrug:

[rodeodance]

34. You are talking to the wrong person. I was complementing Bill's speech and I am an

avid supporter of Hillary.

And i give her credit on her own merits

[KoKo]

37. You read me wrong...but I don't have "peeps" to support me...so it's okay.

[avrdream]

28. At least she gives details in her speeches.

Thanks for the post even if you don't feel like you can trust either of our candidates. I say we MUST trust them to be better than the Repubs....or why bother caring anymore, huh?

[KoKo]

30. If we give up "caring" we are "Lost...." So, I get what you say..

I'm still trying to decide. So many DU'ers have already had a chance to vote in Dem Primaries...they might forget about those of us who can't cast our vote until Late April or , in my case, May 6..in NC..which does have an interesting amount of Delegates...because so many folks have moved here in the years since '04 and '06.

But...we are one of the very last.

[yourguide]

38. Koko

Although I am a Barack supporter and would love to try and convince you, try voting with both your heart and your head.

Only you will know what is right for you.

[KoKo]

39. woo....woo to you...to tell me to "follow my guide."

you must think I grew up under a "toadstool." A shadow where the fairies and I lived out..sheltered from the rain. :eyes:

[yourguide]

40. Acutally

What I wrote was pretty nice, your response was pretty shitty as are many here who are trying to slander and insult. I suggested a pretty reasonable way to vote, a way to vote that is much truer to who you are than spouting off campaign slogans and promises.

So taking your cynicism and negativity into account perhaps you'd be better off voting for Hil, seems she might be more your speed.

Good luck.

[KoKo]

41. Did you actually READ the stuff Hillary said? Hollow words for her, maybe...but Good Stuff.

This post has seemed to take a wrong turn. Perhaps my "Subject Line" wasn't forceful enough....

[yourguide]

43. As I said, you seem to be a part of Team Hillary...

I was gracious and nice, you said you were undecided. Being shitty was unnecessary and childish.

Ignore button here I come.

[KoKo]

42. Our house is falling to the Flu...so I'll give a kick and go to bed.

[AGirl]

44. k and r

[Iceburg]

46. K&R/nt