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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:08 PM
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Anatomy of a smear
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 06:14 PM by ProSense
The media is giving Obama a free pass, so goes the meme. In reality, there just isn't much there to attack, and most of the despicable attacks are coming from Hillary's campaign. Consider this Harper's interview, Six Questions on How the GOP Will Run Against Obama for John Brabender:

Barack Obama doesn’t have the Democratic presidential nomination sewn up, but barring some very unexpected results tonight the odds seem to be moving in his favor. Obama has proved to be a formidable campaigner, as former frontrunner Hillary Clinton can testify. He’s smart, charismatic, inspiring and other than his ties to Antoin Rezko almost entirely untainted by scandal. So how does the GOP run against Obama if he does in fact secure the nomination? I asked that question of John Brabender, Chief Creative Officer and managing partner of BrabenderCox, a leading GOP media firm. His past and present clients include Senators Tom Coburn, David Vitter and Rick Santorum, as well as the Rudy Giuliani for President campaign.


Today showed just how easily Hillary's campaign can manipulate media coverage. Her campaign threw the accusation of "plagiarism" by the Obama campaign out to the media. At first, the NYT identified the source only as a "rival campaign."

It was picked up by:

NYT: An Obama Refrain Bears Echoes of a Governor's Speeches
CNN: Similar Obama, Patrick speeches scrutinized
Politico: Clinton aide accuses Obama of plagiarism
The Swamp: Did Obama plagiarize? Clinton team says yes
Talk Left: Obama and Duval Patrick's Shared Language: Issue or Not?

Pushed by Hillary's surrogates:

Taylor Marsh: 'I Have a Dream' Becomes Obama's 'I Have a Con'
Larry Johnson: Just Words, But Whose Words?

Even the RW media and wingnut blogs (including some of Hillary's favorites) chimed in:

Weekly Standard: Just Words
American Spectator: Clinton Campaign Launches War Over Words
Hot Air: Video: The audacity of derivativeness
Grand Theft Quoto
Town Hall: Obama Echoes Deval's Speeches
Power Line: "Just words," and borrowed ones at that

Then came the updates...

CNN: Obama, Clinton camps point to 'borrowed rhetoric'

Jake Tapper: The Clinton Campaign Just Now..., claiming the plagiarism standard they set
doesn't apply to Hillary.

With its latest attack, desperation by Hillary's campaign has entered silly season:

Former Clinton Speechwriter Weighs In On Plagiarism-Gate '08

We asked former Bill Clinton speechwriter David Kusnet if today's plagiarism accusations against Barack Obama were justified. In his mind, was what Obama did acceptable, or a violation of speechmaking ethics? Here are his thoughts ...

Barack Obama’s greatest strength is the originality of his rhetoric. Sometimes he talks like a regular person, as in his keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, when he introduced himself as “a skinny kid with a funny name.” Sometimes, he sounds like a president from an earlier, more historically literate era, as when he situates his campaign in a tradition that includes the American Revolution, the abolitionists, and the emergence of the labor movement, the civil rights movement, and other social struggles. But only rarely, if ever, does he use the familiar freeze-dried phrases that most current politicians favor. To borrow a phrase from the UAW, the “domestic content” of his speeches is unusually high.

That’s only one of many reasons why it’s so silly to accuse Obama of plagiarism because he used some of the same phrases as his friend and ally, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick (who, I should add, was helpful to me when he was assistant attorney general for civil rights at the same time I was a speechwriter for President Bill Clinton). If plagiarism is borrowing rhetoric without permission, Patrick most likely is happy to have Obama sound similar notes, such as hope and inspiration being more than “just words.” Even if Obama and Patrick didn’t know each other, they might use some of the same phrases because similar public figures frequently draw on common streams of public rhetoric. For instance, labor leaders often echo Walter Reuther or A. Philip Randolph; civil rights leaders draw upon the same scriptural passages and historical sources; and conservative Republicans repeatedly invoke Ronald Reagan. Similarly, John Edwards borrowed a rhetorical technique from his campaign manager, fellow populist and former Michigan congressman, David Bonior: His litany would begin “Somewhere in America,” and then he’d describe a social or economic injustice, such as a worker losing his job and his family’s health insurance. While Politico ran a story about this, it is hardly unusual for a candidate to share a rhetorical technique with his leading adviser.

After all, if there is one sentence from Scripture that is literally true, it is this line from Ecclesiastes: “There is nothing new under the Sun.” To be condemned as plagiarism, a political speech needs to be grievously offensive--using lots of distinctive but little-known material from another source without attributing it to that speaker or receiving his or her permission. For instance, in 1987, Joe Biden once used, without attribution, a speech by the British Labor Party Leader Neil Kinnock, in which Kinnock credited social programs with the fact that he was the first in his family to have attended college. By borrowing the speech and inserting his own name, Biden suggested that the men in his family had been coal miners when, in fact, as Maureen Down dryly noted, his father had been an auto dealer. (In fairness, Biden had quoted Kinnock when he had given the speech on other occasions.) Does what Obama did come close to what Biden did? Absolutely not. Next scandal, please.

--David Kusnet


The plagiarism story took the focus off a couple of interesting real news developments:

Obama Bought Home Without Rezko Discount, Seller Says. As noted here:

For months, reporters have been digging around a land deal between Barack Obama and indicted political fixer Tony Rezko. Despite article after article finding no legal wrongdoing (but suggesting that some was at hand) Obama’s political opponents have continued to use the event to suggest the Senator somehow did something illegal.


Hillary's campaign and her surrogates are among the the driving forces behind this non story

The other story that went under the radar today was that Hillary's campaign is showing more signs of incompetence when it comes to running a campaign minus dirty attacks.

The frenzy over the plagiarism story reminds me of another time when everyone knew what was real and true, but decided to distort the facts, and Hillary joined in the distortion.




edited typo
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:14 PM
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1. I'm surprised that they tried this when it is so easily debunked
and even more surprised that the story has continued to have some traction after Duval Patrick has twice said he recommended the lines to Obama. It is not plagarism to use another's words at their sugggestion and with their permission.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:29 PM
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4. DING DING DING! Quiller4, you're our grand prize winner!
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 06:42 PM by rocknation
I'm surprised that they tried this when it is so easily debunked...

Especially when debunking it is as easily as showing videos of both Hillary and McCain "plagiarizing" Obama. And that's what's bothering me about Hillary's campaign--she's trying on campaign strategies like hates, and seems to be willing to do anything without considering the consequences. I've gotten enough of that from Bush, thank you!

And shame on the New York Times for running their story with an anonymous source!

:rofl:
rocknation

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:41 AM
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27. attack is all she has left - she is against hope
she can't improve herself or her campaign, she can't organize.

Her purpose is to preserve the status quo here and in Iraq.

Think she'll get us Universal Health Care?

Did she the other two terms of her co-presidency?

Can we see the secret papers to the health care committee meetings?
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:17 PM
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2. Novak: Clinton's saying they got dirt on Obama but will not use
Novak wrote article on this over the weekend.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:35 PM
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6. Actually Novak ran that story in November 2007. More on that here:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:58 PM
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12. Yeah, I have a UFO in my garage but I'm not going to reveal it
because the world just isn't ready yet. But you'd better believe I got it.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:17 PM
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31. Is it big enough to carry the bigfoot I have in my closet?
He wants to go home. :rofl:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:20 PM
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3. Oh How It Must Suck
To see the golden one revealed as someone passing off someone else's ideas as his own - and getting his ass called to the floor for it.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:07 AM
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19. Oh how it must suck to see your girl, the inevitable going down
in flames.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:14 PM
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30. A gasp,
pure desperation!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:31 PM
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5. Stage V
Stage I When you do not have the best position on the war - prevaricate

Stage II When you do not have the clear voice of leadership - triangulate

Stage III When you do not have the momentum - trivialize the election just lost

Stage IV When you do not have anywhere to go - instigate a smear on the supporters as unthinking cultists

Stage V When the supporters embrace the slur and turn it around - start backing up the dump truck and release a load
against the leader who has sparked a fire across the country.

Stage VI When this desperate tactic is reviled - step aside as the great locomotive of history barrels by you and you turn to watch history pass you by.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:35 AM
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24. .
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:42 PM
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7. No tears for the creatures of the night.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:46 PM
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8. Not so fast. Hillary might need another episode of Tears for Fears sooner than later!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:47 PM
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9. taylor marsh is a running joke.
leaps of logic that remind me of a pachinko game. She keeps throwing shit up in the hopes that it sticks.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:47 PM
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10. Today was just the beginning.
David Axelrod created Deval Patrick, and it looks like he's now rerunning the exact same campaign for Obama.

Boston.com and The Nation both had this figured out a year ago.

Truly heavy sigh. I thought Obama was an original phenomenon and nigh onto impossible to beat in the primary.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:59 PM
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13. That's so pathetically lame: Deval Patrick is beating Hillary for the presidency! Think about it!
February 18, 2008, 1:37 pm

More on the War Over ‘Words’

By Jeff Zeleny

NILES, Ohio – Senator Barack Obama dismissed suggestions from his rivals that his words are any less authentic because he adapted a line in a speech from his friend, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, but added that he probably should have given him credit.

“I’m sure I should have,” Mr. Obama said, speaking at a news conference here today. “As I said before, I really don’t think this is too big of a deal.”

On the eve of the Wisconsin primary, a top adviser to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton accused Mr. Obama of committing “plagiarism” in a speech he delivered in Milwaukee on Saturday evening. The passage in question is Mr. Obama responding to criticism from Mrs. Clinton that his inspirational speeches are not merely “just words.”

Mr. Obama smiled when asked about the accusation, saying it was “carrying it too far.”

“Let’s see, I’ve written two books. I wrote most of my speeches,” Mr. Obama said. “I would add that I noticed Senator Clinton, on occasion, has used words of mine as well.”

Indeed, two of Mr. Obama’s standard lines – “It’s time to turn the page,” and “Fired up and ready to go,” – have made their way into Mrs. Clinton’s campaign appearances during their contentious fight for the Democratic presidential nomination. In recent days, echoes of his “Yes we can,” chant has surfaced in Mrs. Clinton’s speeches as “Yes we will.”

The Clinton campaign called a conference call with reporters on Monday to highlight their charges. At the same hour, Mr. Obama was talking about the economy as he toured a titanium plant in Ohio.


That setting, he said, placed the brouhaha into its proper context.

“I don’t think that’s really the kind of stuff that the workers here are concerned about,” Mr. Obama said. “What they’re concerned about is whose actually going to make sure that we have jobs here in the United States that pay a decent wage.”



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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:05 PM
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14. It's the same campaign. Ask people in Massachusetts.
When a delegation of Massachusetts Democrats heard Obama speak at the Democratic National Committee's winter meeting in Washington in February, they could trace the thread, said state Democratic Party chairman Philip W. Johnston.

"We all said that we could have closed our eyes when Obama spoke it could have been Deval," Johnston said.


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:07 PM
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15. No, it's spin and desperation. n/t
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:40 AM
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25. Because Patrick borrowed from Obama's 2004 Senate campaign. Which of course you already know,
having read the sources you cited earlier.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:21 PM
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32. Since you are such a big fan ... and all.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:54 PM
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11. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:02 PM
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16. K & R.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 08:03 PM by Island Blue
Here's my theory (as of today): Hillary Clinton will do ANYTHING to return to the White House (maybe she left something hidden under the floorboards in the Lincoln Bedroom, who knows) and if she can't get there on her own merits, she's gonna make DAMN SURE that no other Democrat gets there next year either.

That smell you smell is scorched earth mixed with desperation.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:28 PM
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17. Agree! n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:51 PM
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18. Rec'd earlier today, now kicked n/t
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:10 AM
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20. ProSense- Hillalry is losing superdelegates too.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:39 AM
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26. .
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:40 AM
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28. It's a campaign relying on tearing down it's opponent and
expecting to win by establishment power.

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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:57 AM
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29. ProSense, bone up on Vinod Gupta and the Clintons by Sunday...
... word to the wise Obama supporter.

- Dave
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:12 AM
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21. ~
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:31 AM
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22. that's the media...
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 12:32 AM by stillcool47
it's a 'cult' thing they've got going.
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:23 PM
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34. That's the media...
with a little help from the Clinton campaign.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:04 AM
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23. Bone up on the Clintons' ties to Vinod Gupta before OHIO and TEXAS n/t
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:25 PM
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33. She's also trying to hide
The continuing erosion of her support occasioned by her dismal ground game in Texas. This is her version of a hail mary. Ain't selling down here.
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