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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:54 PM
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Hillary allies rap her tactic to rely on superdelegates
ELECTION 2008 DEMOCRATS

No convention duel, Clinton supporters say

Hillary allies rap her tactic to rely on superdelegates

BY GLENN THRUSH AND JAMES T. MADORE | glenn.thrush@newsday.com;
February 18, 2008

MILWAUKEE - Harlem Rep. Charles Rangel - one of Hillary Clinton's most stalwart African-American defenders - is apparently questioning her reliance on unelected superdelegates to stay competitive with Barack Obama, saying they may not reflect the "will" of Democratic voters.

"It's the people (who are) going to govern who selects our next candidate and not superdelegates," Rangel said last night at a dinner for the New York State Association of Black and Puerto Rican Legislators conference in Albany.

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Earlier yesterday, Sen. Charles Schumer, another major Clinton supporter, expressed his discomfort with her willingness to battle Obama for delegates on the floor of the Democratic National Convention in Denver this August. New York's senior senator, speaking on NBC's "Meet the Press," called on Clinton and Obama to agree on a winner after the final caucus in Puerto Rico, saying a protracted fight will rip apart the party in a year when they're favored to win the White House.

"I don't think either candidate wants - or can even get away with - forcing their will down the throat of the other," Schumer told host Tim Russert. "At the end of the day, on June 7, for the sake of party unity, (Democratic National Committee chairman) Howard Dean and the two candidates will have to get together if neither candidate has 2,025 ... and come up with a strategy. Each candidate will have to have buy into that strategy."

<...>

Kennedy weighs in

But not every surrogate was in a peaceful mood. In Youngstown, Ohio, yesterday, Obama backer Sen. Ted Kennedy accused the Clinton camp of "fear mongering" over a flier claiming Obama's health plan would leave out 15 million Americans.

"(It) is not legitimate ... to undermine the central position of Barack Obama of not being for universal, comprehensive health care," he said. "That is the distortion ... is a misrepresentation and that is fundamentally wrong."

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Hillary's campaign is detached from reality and they can't see that breaking the rules and dirty tactics simply are not working!

Poll: Hillary, Obama In Dead Heat In Texas






She is running out of time!

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:49 PM
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1. Delegate count
*** UPDATE *** With the endorsement of Rep. Chet Edwards (D-TX) of Obama today, the superdelegate total is now: Clinton 257, Obama 184. (Since Feb. 5, Obama has gotten 14 superdelegate endorsements, while Clinton has lost a net of three.)

The grand total then stands at:
Obama 1,324
Clinton 1,262

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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:18 PM
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2. K&R
Why no responses to this post? Oh yeah I forgot, it's the truth.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:35 PM
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3. Thanks, maybe they're
in shock from Schumer and Rangel's comments.

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:12 PM
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4. doggone right. i would hate to see the party split over someone's
ego. this definitely needs to be settled before the convention, because a fractured and dissatified party coming out of a convention, is no party at all. and ultimately we all lose.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:45 AM
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5. It's the divide and conquer strategy.

'Second-class delegates'

A co-chairman of Hillary's Michigan campaign and has a line that's sure to drive a whole bunch of red state governors up the wall:

"Superdelegates are not second-class delegates," says Joel Ferguson, who will be a superdelegate if Michigan is seated. "The real second-class delegates are the delegates that are picked in red-state caucuses that are never going to vote Democratic."



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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:13 PM
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8. that's disgusting...
i don't like seeing Democrats disenfranchised, but if all parties agreed beforehand that MI & FL would not count, I don't understand why this is even an issue at this point, except that the Clinton campaign is raising it out of desparation. I just don't know how we settle this fairly?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:58 AM
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6. K & R
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:44 PM
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7. Obama Gaining Among Middle-Aged, Women, Hispanics

Poll: Hillary's Support Dropping Among Hispanics

By Greg Sargent - February 19, 2008

Ben Smith has a great catch -- the latest Gallup tracking poll shows Hillary's support eroding among Hispanics, a key core constituency...



Gallup also finds that Obama has gained among middle-aged voters, women, and self-identified Dems.

Gallup's conclusion: Obama has cemented his status as the candidate with momentum in the race, "holding a statistically significant lead in each of the last three tracking poll results."


In the days immediately after Super Tuesday, Clinton rebuilt her lead among women, enjoying a 53% to 38% lead in the Feb. 5-9 polling. But her gender advantage has once again dissipated, and in the latest data, female Democratic voters are about as likely to say they prefer Obama (45%) as Clinton (46%).



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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:14 PM
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9. Gallup shows Obama rebound

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