Is Barack Obama a Fraud?

[MadBadger]

Poll question: Is Barack Obama a Fraud?

That seems to be the theme of the night so far. Pushing around the Obama's campaign is nothing more than Patrick's campaign except for President, even though the 2004 Convention sheet easily disproves that. So I wonder if this is just a vocal minority, or do people actually think he is a fraud.

[Danger Mouse]

1. no.

[Bicoastal]

2. Flawed, but no fraud. nt

[billbuckhead]

4. What, no choice for "present"?

[baldguy]

31. Bingo

I'm sick of politicians lying to us, trying to pretend they're perfect. We're trying to elect someone to be a leader, not a saint.

After all, W thinks he's Jesus and we've all seen how that's turned out.

[GarbagemanLB]

3. Disgusting poll.

[MadBadger]

5. Why is this a disgusting Poll?

[GarbagemanLB]

9. I mean, to even have to ask such a question is bull, in my opinion. Hillary is disgusting.

[Skittles]

15. LOL

you certainly would know "disgusting".

[mtnsnake]

19. "Hillary is disgusting"

You are the epitome of everything that's gone wrong with this place the last couple of years.

[GarbagemanLB]

23. I'm not the one voting for the candidate who will likely lose in November.

Pull your heads out of your asses and realize what is going on.

[Catherine Vincent]

26. You first, garbageman.

:eyes:

[emilyg]

36. Garbage from you.

[11 Bravo]

47. Well certainly your opinion should be the standard by which we decide what is or is not "disgusting"

Be careful that Bill O'Reilly doesn't bring suit against you. I believe he holds a current patent on the the myopic self-important jackass shtick.

[Olney Blue]

6. No, and I think this whole plagerism bru-ha-ha is stupid,

considering all of the politicians use speechwriters.

[madrchsod]

7. of course he is

and don`t get me started about his america hating wife.... :sarcasm:

[ihavenobias]

8. This is the biggest NON-ISSUE since the story about Hillary not tipping/tipping too much

I'm tired of this BS. If someone wants to criticize Obama or Hillary, by all means, just do it based on *substantive* issues! They both deserve real criticism on real issues.

This does NOT qualify.

[Seeker30]

52. Well how would we know the real issues since he uses other peoples speeches??

[Kira]

10. I remember when he said he just wanted

to figure out where the bathrooms were in the Senate. Then all of a sudden he thinks he is ready to be President. It is so obvious that people just kept whispering in his ear that he should run for President even though he knew he was just learning how to be a Senator.

[Bright Eyes]

11. No more then Clinton...

[JackORoses]

12. not a chance

Hillary accuses people of being what she already is.

She wants everyone to be as corrupted as she is.

[FrenchieCat]

13. This whole Broohaha just takes away from Hillary's dignity!

Will there be anything left once the campaign is over? I'm starting to doubt it.

[GoldieAZ49]

39. I didn't think they had any at the beginning of the campaign n/t

[DJ13]

14. Wheres the "No, but the Clintons are" option?

:shrug:

[MadBadger]

16. Now now, leave the negative attacks to somebody else

You can start that poll.

[DJ13]

24. Aw, you take all the fun out of this........

:cry:

:hi:

[ruggerson]

17. I don't think he's a fraud

he's a bright politician. Who wouldn't make as formidable a leader as Hillary.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. And his wife hates America!!

:sarcasm:

[sniffa]

20. I voted no

but I was hoping 'shuck and jive' would be an option.

[mtnsnake]

21. Not a fraud, but maybe an illusion. n/t

[dogman]

22. As I read in my daily paper about Obama.

Did not vote.

[The_Casual_Observer]

25. Who is Obama and why is he imitating Deval Patrick?

[MadBadger]

28. Seems to me like Deval Patrick had been imitating Obama first.

[The_Casual_Observer]

30. How is that? It seems like Deval did the whole Obama campaign

before Obama did it. Slogan for Slogan.

[MadBadger]

32. Were you alive in 2004? Did you not see Obama preaching the Politics of Hope at the Convention?

Go Learn about his 2004 Senate run as well. Go read some of his books, learn about the Audacity of Hope and then get back to me.

[The_Casual_Observer]

40. Audacity of something alright. He slipped up & directly

used an old Deval, figuring nobody would catch his smarmy ass. They did.

[MadBadger]

38. Coward

[The_Casual_Observer]

43. The best you can do? Deval an agent of change.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

27. selling someone elses ideas as his own while seeking the Presidency ..yes that makes him a FRAUD

[MadBadger]

29. If he's the nominee, will you support this "Fraud?"

[gmudem]

33. Funny that some people answer yes

It's occuring to me that while he is being accused of plagiarizing Patrick, they were both using famous quotes that almost all Americans know. And they were both using them to respond to opponents who said words are meaningless.

By Clinton standards, anybody who quotes Jefferson or Kennedy or Roosevelt is a plagiarist.

[undeterred]

34. Obama is as much a fraud as Hillary Clinton is desperate.

[LadyVT]

35. Define "Fraud"

Can't vote until you do.

[KoKo]

37. He seems to think he's some answer to some calling ....who knows but himself...

[rurallib]

41. Heard that about Edwards too. What horse shit.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

42. Anyone Sayin He's A Fraud Is As Vitriolic And Misguided As Some Obama Supporters Are Towards Hillary

He's not perfect, and I think it was wrong for him to recycle that part of someone else's speech, but to say he's a fraud is beyond disingenuous and just quite simply wrong. Obama is not only not a fraud, but is also one hell of a great candidate.

[WillyT]

44. Nope...

:kick:

[aaroh]

45. obama > (hillary + Bill)

hillary is more flawed than obama
obama > (hillary + Bill)

[Arugula Latte]

50. Welcome to DU, aaroh!

:hi: :toast:

[BlueStater]

46. I think he's swindling a lot of people with pretty words

I have no hope that he'll change shit should he actually get elected.

[cloudythescribbler]

48. It is appalling that so MANY on DU would say YES -- I'll bet a survey of ordinary Americans ...

broken down into "Democrats", "Independents" and "Republicans" would show lower percentages agreeing with the 'fraud' claim than on DU, where you would think there would be more support for a leading Democrat.

It really reflects how some intra-party partisanship has gone over the top (and yes, much anti-Hillary sentiment here on DU is also).

[MadBadger]

49. 25% thinks he's a fraud. Real telling.

[donheld]

51. It'll probably be like the straw poll from the other day

452 to 120. How embarrassing was that.