So I'm a second-class voter in the eyes of the Clinton campaign.

[Drunken Irishman]

I'm a Democrat in Utah, which means her campaign won't mind if I don't vote for her if she happens to win the nomination.

Since, you know, I'm one of those red state Democrats, whose vote doesn't really count.

I've always supported the idea of backing the eventual winner of this thing, but if I'm going to be told my voice and my opinion is less than those of people living in blue states, well fuck, maybe it is time I keep my options open.

[Debi]

1. Not you - just any of your Democratic elected officials and Party leaders

THEY'RE second class :eyes:

[grantcart]

2. demo in Utah - no wonder you have a drinking problem

[Lone_Star_Dem]

3. I tried to google to see what this was about with no luck

I've obviously missed something. Could someone explain to me, please?

[Yael]

8. Here ya go

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Secondclass_delegates.html

[pingzing58]

4. Oh, go eat an Idaho potato.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

5. Think about how we here in Texas feel!

Her campaign had the audacity to say this Before we've even voted! You know if Texas ever went blue or even purple again, it would be Because of the "red-state democrats"

[Lone_Star_Dem]

7. Do you have a link?

I admit, my curiosity is roused. :shrug:

[Yael]

10. Responded upthread

:hi:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

13. What the hell is he talking about?

I always vote Democratic in the GE. What does he think, we only decide to show up to a caucus and then hid back in our hole?

What an idiotic statement.

[Yael]

16. Isn't that fun!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

19. Um, no. Not really.

I was rather enjoying my brief moment as a courted member of the Democratic party. He really didn't have to go and pee in my cheerios like that.

Way to rally your red state Democrats right before a vital primary/caucus. That's no doubt why he makes the big bucks. :eyes:

[Yael]

22. Sorry -- was being sarcastic.

:hi:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

27. I got that

I was just tossing out my brittlely dry humor for all to enjoy. :P

[Lone_Star_Dem]

14. I forgot my manners....Thank you for the link.

:hi:

[Yael]

17. Quite welcome

No need for thanks -- it was implied.

:hi:

[Cha]

33. I like your

avatar :P It does look really good.

[Yael]

6. Hillary -- running for President of the United Blue States of America

:patriot:

[Barack_America]

23. President of the United States that Matter

Remember, even blue states don't count for shit unless they're big enough.

[stillcool]

28. that's a good one...

Can I plagiarize that?

[Barack_America]

29. Not if I give you permission...

Technically speaking. ;)

[rufus dog]

9. shut the hell up mick!

[jkshaw]

11. Drunken Irishman, thanks for being here,

I thought there was only one other Utahn here beside me, Heiderheld. I'm in northern Utah. We have a few Democrats up here, but only a few. Lonely.

[Drunken Irishman]

39. What part of Utah? I'm lucky, I live in Salt Lake.

A lot more likeminded folk down this way. In fact, dare I say Salt Lake is actually LIBERAL! :)

[outtosea]

12. Ok, and as a Hillary voter, I'm...

A lower-class, uneducated American.

[ileus]

15. however, she'll gladly accept any donation you may make.

[Yael]

18. Money counts

States and people, not so much.

[Exilednight]

20. If Hillary somehow wins the nomination

I'm going to take a serious look at a third party candidate. I refuse to vote Republican, but Hillary is making harder and harder for me to want vote for her.

[redstate_democrat]

21. As usual,

it's all about her. Forget the many, many elected Democrats in red states who contribute to the Democratic majority in Congress. Yeah, they don't matter. I guess all of us red state Democrats should just stay at home on election day despite many of our elected Congress people running for office. How does Hillary expect to get ANYTHING done without a Democratic majority, made possible by red state Democrats?

Hmmm...maybe we'll never know...

[Tatiana]

24. Yes. You are. Welcome to the second-class.

:rofl:

[Bread and Circus]

25. actually, you are. If Hill wins they will dismantle the 50 state strategy and

eject Howard Dean as quick as they possibly can.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

34. Sorry, not acceptable.

We are one of the fastest growing states in the US. To simply discount our Democrats because we our currently out numbered would be a tactical error of epic proportions for our party.

We are finally beginning to make some (noticeable) headway at local levels here. I will not be denied the fruits of our hard work simply because we're not prime USDA 100% blue fillet.

Dammit, I'm a Democrat, warts and all!



What kind of an idiot would make a statement such as that? I'll work for half his pay and make stupid statements all day if that's what they're looking for.

[Bread and Circus]

40. I know that's not acceptable and it's one of the many reasons I will NEVER vote for Clinton.

[Levgreee]

26. I think they could use those lines against Hillary in the GE n/t

[tishaLA]

30. I'm first class even though I didn't vote for her

Sucks to be you though. It's a shame she hates so many fellow Democrats.

[BringBigDogBack]

31. Me too.

[Cha]

32. hilaryland is running the primary campaign

into the ground and not shoring up for the general..they've making sure Obama has a big mess to clean up just like he'll have to clean up after bush.

[johnnydrama]

35. i'm wondering

If she becomes President, will I need a passport to drive from Washington to Idaho or Illinois to Indiana?

[Cha]

36. hilary does not inspire

confidence.

[Kitty Herder]

37. As Dems in Utah, we're second-class voters to most everyone.

Sorry. That's just the way it is. I know it sucks. Our votes in the presidential general election don't count because all of this state's electoral votes will go to the Republican every time.

It would require Thomas S. Monson declaring some kind of revelation that Mormons are now supposed to voted for Democrats for the to change. And I think that would cause a bigger split in the church than the manifesto ending polygamy did.

[Drunken Irishman]

38. Well I love how Obama has at least reached out to Utah.

And I have no doubt when he's the nominee he'll make a stop here to campaign.