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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:04 AM Original message |
Jim Cooper Was Demonized By Hillary Clinton As Was Anyone With Alternative Health Care Proposals |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. it is fairly well documented at thenation and counterpunch it is she that bears a lot of |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Bill Clintons' incompetent crony, Ira Magaziner, also contributed a lot to the failure. |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. maybe it was intentional incompetence on her part |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. Excellent Research! Not everyone who despises The Clinton Machine are Republicans. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
4. Rec'd with thanks. Does not work well with others, does she. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Again, it was also Bill Clinton's incompetent crony Ira Magaziner who couldn't work with others. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Cooper's alternative had less support than single payer... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. You insist on blaming all this on Cooper instead of the real villian: |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Jim Cooper should have surrendered. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. As is Hillary now a toady of same insurance companies & fact stands, she ignored every other Bill |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
5. Why has Jim Cooper voted so many times with Bush? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. that's kind of irrelevant in terms of the subject of this thread. Cooper's HealthCare Plan had WIDE |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It did not have WIDE support... |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
6. I think when everyone makes healthcare a priority like homeland |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Thanks for the link. Universal Healthcare is a the defining issue for me. /nt |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
7. Jim Cooper (DINO) |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Don't look now, but Hillary's plan is also a boon to the insurance industry. And her Mandate |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I don't like Clinton's plan... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Facts & Direct Quotes provided above. Much from Haynes Johnson & David Broder's Book 'The System' |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. It had less support in Congress than single payer. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Again, you ignore the FIRST SENTENCE OF MY POST. Cooper's wasn't the only Bill. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Cooper wasn't the only one with a Plan, You PROVE MY POINT! Clintons ignored everyone |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
39. Steenkin' facts! |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
9. Her Health Care Initiative was a mess...but it's been a long time since then |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Obama was part of the group that got health care insurance for kids passed in IL |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Jim Cooper was an obstructionist. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Thank you, |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. And they ended up PROVING that Hillary demonized and ignored EVERYONE with alternative plans |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. There were several alternative plans. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Bill Clinton did NOT create S-CHIP, nor did HRC - Kennedy and Hatch did |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Bill Clinton introduced the idea in his State of they Union address... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Kerry and Kennedy had introduced their bill the previous year |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
22. she has since learned that she has to cooperate with centrists and republicans |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Her campaign was tearing Obama's skin off for suggesting doing that, |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. No, it's too late for her - her incompetence is obvious. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
31. Excellent - reading this made me see things I didn't see in the 1990s |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
33. Neither of our candidates is for single payer, period |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:11 AM Response to Original message |
36. K & R |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
37. Shocking Obama would destroy health care reform |
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