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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:19 AM
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Hillary's campaign fails to file a full slate of PA convention delegate candidates
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 11:25 AM by dkf
Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign failed to file a full slate of convention delegate candidates for Pennsylvania's April 22 primary.

This despite the possibility the primary proves critical and despite Clinton owning the full-throated support of Gov. Rendell, state Democratic Party leadership, Mayor Nutter and, presumably, the organizational skill all that entails.

And despite a Rendell-ordered extension of the filing deadline that could be viewed as more than just coincidental.

"There are a number of Clinton delegates that did not file for reasons of illness or other issues," Democratic state chairman T.J. Rooney conceded yesterday after being questioned by the Daily News.

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/15759032.html

Hillary...not ready ever.

read more for details on how PA works.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:21 AM
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1. I think she has actually conceded this thing
Still today they have no events planned in PA. It certainly looks as though they dont expect to go past Texas.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:24 AM
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6. I Doubt That (nt)
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:31 AM
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12. If I am wrong
Then her strategy is horrible. It's worse if she is planning to go forward. She has absolutely nothing planned for PA.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/hq/pennsylvania/
http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/search_results?type=advanced&orderby=day&state=pa&limit=50

Pretty much says it all right there.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:46 AM
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18. Go Ahead, Underestimate Her
See what happens.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:47 AM
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23. The winner gets the delegates whether they file slates delegates or not.
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:16 PM
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46. Thanks for posting that part of the article...
I am a little confused, though. If that's the case, why would any candidate file a slate? Anyone from PA know? Thanks.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:49 AM
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25. We don't vote until April 22
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:19 PM
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34. This is all the media will be talking about soon. It is STUNNING that the front-runner did not file
a full slate in ANY state. I don;t remember any campaign at this level being so incompetent. When combined with the rest of her trainwreck campaign, the media will get on its high horse and run this "Brownie" moment in to the ground.

She's ready on Day One - to completely blow it.

If Rendell had not extended she would be down 21 delegates, not just 11 out of 103.

Cable News will be amazing tonite I believe.

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:00 PM
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42. Contrast that to the 50+ events scheduled for Obama...
...in the near future. Including voter registration and campaign training sessions all across the state this weekend.

Obama's jump on the grassroots in this state is ridiculous.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:22 AM
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2. She expected this to be over by Feb 5th... so she was not prepared to have to WIN PA....
...Ready on Day One..... as long as Day One = Feb 6th.


It seems like the same people that planned the Iraqi war and thought it would be over in a month to six weeks also planned Hillary's campaign.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:28 AM
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9. Where are you Hillbots? I want to hear what you have to say. PA don't count? nt
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:46 AM
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19. The winner gets the delegates whether they file slates delegates or not.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:29 AM
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10. Ouch!
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:23 AM
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3. Be sure to tell people to read the rest of the article.
Under Democratic Party rules (and does any organization on the planet have more rules or more complex rules?) a presidential candidate winning in a congressional district gets delegates from that district (assigned at a later date) whether he or she files slates delegates or not.

Thanks!

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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:30 AM
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11. Even so, this stinks of voter neglect. nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:23 AM
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4. WTF? This is inexusable. MORE incompetence?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:46 AM
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20. The winner gets the delegates whether they file slates delegates or not.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:24 AM
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5. WTH? She did not slate 10% of delegates? WTH is this? She does not care???
Or is she incompetent? Hillary, you need to stop pretending that you are competing and call it quits for you own sake!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:47 AM
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21. The winner gets the delegates whether they file slates delegates or not.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:22 PM
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35. That's like the kid who doesn't do his homework because the prof. doesn't grade it
Just doesn't bode well.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:26 AM
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7. Pathetic leadership. That's what she offers for "Day One".
She was supposed to be coronated on Super Tuesday. Didn't happen and they should have seen that coming weeks before. Now it's apparant they never considered that they would need delegates from Pennsylvania, even weeks after the Super Tuesday disaster.

How anyone can still think Hillary has any leadership or executive ability is a complete mystery.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:47 AM
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22. The winner gets the delegates whether they file slates delegates or not.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:06 PM
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30. So I guess perception does not matter to you?
I thought that in politics, perception matters a great deal. Certainly in a race as close as this one might be, a perception that one campaign is being run well, while the other is pretty much a disaster, could matter a great deal if it comes down to politicians choosing the Democratic nominee.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:08 PM
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31. No, the Obama Camp's attempt to spin this non-issue does not matter.
They're just trying to keep the attention off Barack.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:13 PM
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32. Even if you're right about the "spin" from Obama's camp....
do you still maintain that the perception of yet another screw-up by Hillary's campaign does not matter?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:16 PM
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33. No, I don't think the voters are as stupid as Obama... Hopes.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:48 PM
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39. That's a pretty funny and ironic statement.
Coming from a Hillary supporter.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:26 AM
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8. Ready on day one!
Her "experience" is biting her in the ass. And deservedly so! Her campaign plan had nothing beyond Super Tuesday. Now they're scrambling. Really pathetic.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:34 AM
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13. Off to the Greatest Page we go!
Should we ask Skinner to set up a "Day One" forum, for all the evidence of Hillary's incompetence?
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Yurem2008 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:35 AM
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14. Ready on Day One?
what an empty slogan
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:43 AM
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16. Day one doesnt matter!
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:02 PM
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29. It certainly has been proven to be empty. nt
nt
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:35 AM
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15. That is the steady hand of experience! nt
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:46 AM
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17. In OPs link: The winner gets the delegates whether they file slates delegates or not.
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 11:46 AM by MethuenProgressive
I hate what DUbamas have done to DU.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:48 AM
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24. Ready to be president on day one and yet can't run an effective campaign?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:52 AM
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26. The winner gets the delegates whether they file slates delegates or not.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:52 AM
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27. PA Supers linked here on SourceWatch
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pennsylvania_2008_presidential_primary_and_superdelegates

2 - Obama
14 - Hillary
1 - Dropped Hillary now uncommitted
9 - Uncommitted
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:54 AM
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28. I think there is much more going on than
meets the eye. IMHO, this state, despite the shilling in the M$M and even here on DU, is NOT a lock for HRC. The voters who put an Ed Rendell into the driver's seat in a once-red now purple state, can take him away as well. The "bad weather" excuse for Philadelphia is a non-starter given this winter has probably been one of the warmest on record, with only a few days since December of any measurable ice or snow. I.e., there's been mostly rainstorms, much to my relief so far.

IMHO, the tide has shifted in this state and neither Fast Eddie or Mixmaster Mike can spin away the reality. I.e., what once "was" regarding demographics favoring a certain candidate based on the assumptions in the fall and early winter, are no longer the case. There are many in this city who watched Rendell while mayor, shift the $$ from the Clinton's "Enterprise Zones" into the wealthier parts of the downtown, leaving the usual poorer spots for last - ironically completed under a different administration. City residents are battling the casino issue as we speak and have battled the 10-year tax abatements for the affluent $1 million+ condo buyers while the burden gets shifted to everyone else via reassessments of homeowners suffering from bloated flipper housing prices all around them.

So no one should assume that what Fast Eddie says goes. Inevitableness is not the flavor of the day. And ironically, Bob Brady, who is the city's Democratic Chairman and a congressman, has been trying to negotiate (yet another) debate to be held here at the National Constitution Center. He is of course a Super Delegate but is currently uncommitted.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/15696857.html
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:27 PM
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36. "It seems to me they did not pay sufficient attention to the details,"
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:28 PM
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37. Having signed myself for Obama in PA, all I can say is...



This seriously speaks to Hillary's apparent absence of a grassroots campaign in PA. Without it she is, to put it bluntly, screwed. It doesn't take much. My group had about 20 volunteers on this and was able to easily get all of the signatures fulfilled for the delegates in our district.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:35 PM
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38. Ready on Day None(tm) nt
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:50 PM
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40. huh, whos ready for what day?
:rofl:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:57 PM
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41. In OPs link: The winner gets the delegates whether they file slates delegates or not.
You've been punked.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:03 PM
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43. What does this say to the people of Pa?
We like 90% of you, but the other 10% we could care less about?

How can she claim experience, and then do such a rookie mistake?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:13 PM
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44. Even better yet, Rendell EXTENDED the deadline for her and she still couldn't make it.
She would've been 21 delegates short, if the deadline hadn't been extended. (details in original source)

And one of those tardy delegates, Philly's very own corrupt former mayor John Street.

AND my congressional district is affected!

AND my student group collected most of Barack's signatures for our congressional district.


Jesus, this story just keeps on giving!!
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:45 PM
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45. Here's the amazing part, it was reported that Obama recieved
hardly any votes in Harlem, yet he managed to fill his slate of delegates.
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