Obama: I Should Have Credited Lines

[Omaha Steve]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/19/politics/main3843923.shtml

(AP) Sen. Barack Obama said Monday that he doesn't think it's a big deal that he borrowed lines from his friend Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, although he probably should have given him credit.

Patrick said during his gubernatorial campaign a year and a half ago that words matter, like "I have a dream" and "all men are created equal."

Obama used the same lines Saturday night in Wisconsin. Obama said that Patrick suggested he use the lines to respond to Hillary Rodham Clinton's suggestion that Obama is more of a talker than a doer.

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson accused Obama of plagiarizing Patrick, and that's particularly troubling since Obama's appeal is based in large part on his rhetorical skills.

"It raises questions about the premise of his candidacy," Wolfson told reporters in a conference call. Clinton told reporters late Monday evening: "If your whole candidacy is about words, those words should be your own. That's what I think."

Obama, D-Ill., says that's going too far.

FULL story at link.

[billbuckhead]

1. It's a Wizard of Oz behind the curtain moment for the Obama movement

Obama looks more and more like a TelePrompTer reading entertainer.

[Emit]

3. What it is

is what we choose to make of it, really. It's a none issue, IMO.

[truebrit71]

8. As opposed to the "genuine" Hillary? Gimme a break...

...you know that move she does at those campaign events...when her eyes bulge out, and her cheeks go full-on chipmunk mode as she squeezes out a 'smile' and points to someone in the crwod like she knows them...THAT move....does she not KNOW how fake and phoney that makes her look? It is THE most cringe-worthy feature of her entire false public persona and it makes me want to blow chunks everytime I see it...

But keep trying to frame the debate about "words" Hill...because we stopped listening to YOURS months ago...

[cali]

16. There's something truly amusing

about you folks trying to make out that a man who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, who practiced civil rights law, who lectured on Constitutional Law at a prestigious law school, who served eight years in the Illinois State Senate and who has served 3 years in the U.S. Senta, is merely an entertainer or puppet of the evil Axelrod.

[KittyWampus]

26. not true, however Hillary looks more and more like Bob Dole getting cranky

[JackORoses]

34. you know that your candidate is going to lose. Why do you feel it necessary to lash out in defeat?

[truebrit71]

2. This is the very worst that the Clinton smear camp can come up with?

"It takes a village" anyone?

All original words?

REALLY?

Whatever Hill....

That old saying is right I guess...Hell hath no fury like a pant-suited woman who's been scorned...

[MonkeyFunk]

10. No

you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the issues involved.

That was a title - and it was explained in the book where it came from and what it meant. Lots of titles come from aphorisms - To Kill a Mockingbird for example.

And using popular phrases isn't plagiarism. But lifting substantial portions from another source is. Portions that comprise entire ideas and are represented as one's own.

He admitted he should've credited the lines. Good for him - as I said below, it was an offense, but a minor one.

[anamandujano]

22. Pointing out the truth IS the worst the Clinton campaign comes up with;

that is all they've ever done. The media whoops up a frenzy and calls "racist" over everything they say. They want Obama to be able to run his sh*t campaign without the slightest challenge.

If that's they way the poor widdle guy has been living his life, it's time he grew up.

He's right up there with W in terms of ineptitude.

[MonkeyFunk]

4. That's about the right response

it was an offense, but a minor one. He admitted he shouldn't have done it, and I bet he won't do it again.

Now can we be done with this nonsense? The over-the-top defense was worse than the original criticism.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

7. That's how I'm seeing it also

He needed to say something and this feels like it fits the situation.

[ShortnFiery]

14. Obama had the GRACE and HUMBLENESS to admit a mistake albeit it does NOT rise to the level ...

of plagiarism. :-)

You'll not catch HRC, The Chimperor or McCain admitting *any weakness.* Doesn't the thought arrogant and self-righteous personality type President continuously in the WH give us all the warm fuzzies? :thumbsdown:

[MonkeyFunk]

21. LOL

you're truly over the top.

First, everybody screams that there was no offense! NONE AT ALL GODDAMMIT!!!

Then Obama admits he made an error, and then you STILL scream about it.

So first, Clinton was wrong. Then she was right, but she's still at fault. Nuts.

[CyberPieHole]

5. Lies and obfuscation from Obama to his CULT: "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN"

[tblue]

6. Can't we all just get along?

[ShortnFiery]

17. That so f**king low. You attack Obama where he is STRONG - Integrity and Honesty!

You'll never catch HRC showing true grace and humbleness.

You're stealing Uncle KKKarl's strategy. :puke: :thumbsdown:

[billbuckhead]

31. Such integrity, Obama bought his house below market from a gangster

[backscatter712]

35. For the 20,000,000th time, that's been debunked!

by the home's seller (not Rezko.)

So find another talking point to parrot, Polly.

[billbuckhead]

36. Obama on Rezko deal: It was a mistake

Obama on Rezko deal: It was a mistake
November 5, 2006
BY DAVE MCKINNEY AND CHRIS FUSCO Staff Reporters Contributing: Mark Brown
U.S. Sen. Barack Obama expressed regret late Friday for his 2005 land purchase from now-indicted political fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko in a deal that enlarged the senator's yard.

"I consider this a mistake on my part and I regret it," Obama told the Chicago Sun-Times in an exclusive and revealing question-and-answer exchange about the transaction.

In June 2005, Obama and Rezko purchased adjoining parcels in Kenwood. The state's junior senator paid $1.65 million for a Georgian revival mansion, while Rezko paid $625,000 for the adjacent, undeveloped lot. Both closed on their properties on the same day.
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http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article

Then why does ;(bama admit it was a mistake?

[Diane R]

9. To quote a caller on Ed Schultz: "If your candidacy is experience, it should be your own, not Bill."

[Cha]

15. Brawawwa..It takes a potemkin village..

doncha know.

[anamandujano]

32. Remind me again why Gore was so pissed off? Something about

Hillary doing more work than he was?

Here we get the same old, Hillary did worse argument. That should serve you well in the general. :eyes:

You just reminded me of the story about when Chelsea was sick at school. They wanted to send her home and asked about calling her mother. Chelsea said "Oh no, call my dad, my mom is too busy."

[cooolandrew]

11. Would they they be trying to limit his speech by any chance. Sweethearts.

[Tarc]

12. Uh-oh, more backtracking from Team Obama in store

They've wasted several days trying to define and redefine plagiarism itself, and now their man admits to it and says he should have attributed after all.

Good job wasting your weekend, boys & girls. :)

[anamandujano]

13. All it takes is an apology, like "boneheaded" and the like. Giving

the money to charity works also.

Now let's all move on. :eyes:

The guy is an farking empty suit and people let him smooth over everything.

[ShortnFiery]

20. Aren't you lovely Master! Let me take my nappy haired, boneheaded, uppity self out of here.

for you must know "the truth." :puke:

[anamandujano]

33. Yet another instance of Obama supporters using combustible words

instead of trying to scare up the slightest argument.

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. So far, that is. He hasn't felt the wrath of the GOP/corprat media smear machine, yet.

The smooth sailing won't last much longer.

[ProSense]

18. Here's video of him making the statement

http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2008/02/18/clintons-plagiarism-charge-fal">Clinton Caught Copying Obama Too (It starts off with Obama)

[Moochy]

19. Broken record sez what?

[suston96]

23. Don't worry about it Barry...Keep up the Elmer Gantry routine...it's selling like crazy...nt

[ProSense]

29. It is:

Poll: Hillary's Support Dropping Among Hispanics

By Greg Sargent - February 19, 2008

Ben Smith has a great catch -- the latest Gallup tracking poll shows Hillary's support eroding among Hispanics, a key core constituency...



Gallup also finds that Obama has gained among middle-aged voters, women, and self-identified Dems.

Gallup's conclusion: Obama has cemented his status as the candidate with momentum in the race, "holding a statistically significant lead in each of the last three tracking poll results."

In the days immediately after Super Tuesday, Clinton rebuilt her lead among women, enjoying a 53% to 38% lead in the Feb. 5-9 polling. But her gender advantage has once again dissipated, and in the latest data, female Democratic voters are about as likely to say they prefer Obama (45%) as Clinton (46%).



link

[Skwmom]

24. So Obama should use all of his time writing speeches?

I'm sure many of the most well known historic speeches and lines weren't written by the person who spoke them. Big deal.

[MonkeyFunk]

28. Using speechwriters isn't the issue

But you know that.

He himself admits it was an error. Let it go now.

[global1]

25. And Hillary Shouldn't Have Voted For The War.......nt

[MonkeyFunk]

30. Obama shouldn't have used drugs

See how easy it is to just change the subject?

You really don't think that's an effective debate strategy, do you?

[killbotfactory]

37. The the Clinton campaign is running with this non-issue...

tells me they are facing pretty dire straits right now.