Hillary Clinton's words reveal that she is a shameless liar...

[CoffeeCat]

Listen to this video. Really listen.

This is Hillary Clinton on the Senate floor on October 2, 2002--explaining her "YES" vote on the Iraq war.

Listen closely to Hillary Clinton talking about what this vote means. Hillary told us, during her
last debate with Obama, that her "YES" vote was "a vote to let the inspectors do their jobs and not
a vote for war."

Listen. Listen to what Hillary Clinton says (at 00:52):

"This is a very difficult vote. This is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Any
vote that might lead to war should be hard. But I cast my vote with conviction."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0

Hillary Clinton asserts that "this is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make". Why would a vote
to "let the inspectors do their job" be "one of the hardest decisions" she's "ever had to make"?

Forget that the resolution was titled, "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq".
She knew it was a vote that could lead to war, and she says that...right there in the video.

Hillary Clinton is a liar. A shameless liar. And she thinks you are stupid.

[liberalnurse]

1. But, let's not forget that Obama is an empty suit.

Obamarites, bow down to the Prophet Obama......that's all he has done, cause a cult/groupie mentality. He is vacant on experience. His resume' sucks.

[JKaiser]

2. Yep you are right!

[GarbagemanLB]

3. you can't even spell, lol. Watch this:

http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2008/02/18/clintons-plagiarism-charge-fal/

[liberalnurse]

19. I wouldn't access anything you linked.

You probably have a virus attached.

[GarbagemanLB]

52. Stay ignorant, like all the other Hillary supporters, then. It is simply a VIDEO of her own words..

no editing.

[cali]

7. Hillary Clinton is not a shameless liar

and Obama is not an empty suit. If you don't now what he's done, that's your problem. He has an impressive resume, as does she. And btw, that's "prophet" not "profit". How sad that you don't know the difference.

[liberalnurse]

15. Thank you....

Using the styles on a PDA has it's difficulties.

[ForeignSpectator]

90. Err, and it's "stylus" and "its"... ;) n/t

[CoffeeCat]

82. I'm SHOWING that Clinton is a shameless liar...

It's a fact.

She told us, during the debate--that her Iraq war vote, was not a vote for war. She insisted that it
was a vote to keep the inspectors in.

This video clearly shows--in her own words--that she knew this vote could lead to war.

Everyone and their dog knew this was a war vote. We knew she was lying when she insinuated that
a vote titled, "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq"
was just some innocuous vote on keeping weapons inspectors in.

Now we see, that she's full of it. She is a liar Cali. A shameless liar. What other kind of liar
is there?

[TexasObserver]

8. Let's not forget that Hillary is an empty pantsuit.

President? No. Oompah-Loompah? Now you're talking.

[Hoof Hearted]

78. Wow. You're up to 2805 posts in JUST 19 DAYS! You must have blisters!

That's 148 posts a day.

How do you do that, really?

If you're putting in 8 hour days, that's almost 19 posts per hour.

Amazing.

[TexasObserver]

87. Wow! You're up to 99% substance free content.

Must really suck to be you.

I notice all your posts are the same, which leads me to conclude you're under heavy medication.

I'm so happy you're so easily entertained. How about a ball of knitting yarn to keep you busy for the next day or two? Unlike you, I don't look at every profile, because lady/mister, I don't care where you live, what your gender is, yada yada yada, because you have yet to make an intelligent post. They're all nonsense and bitching.

[CoffeeCat]

9. All you have is baseless attacks...

...and attack memes--drummed up by a shameless liar, Hillary.

Do you ever think for yourself?

Instead of spouting off the daily talking points--why don't you really take some
time to think about how Hillary has lied to you. She thinks you are an idiot.

Are you going to take that?

Are you going to regurgitate her lines and turn a blind eye to her warmongering and her
blatant lies?

She's counting on it. Those who want integrity restored to the White House, are hoping
that you open your eyes.

[Hepburn]

22. You are one sick, bitter person...and frankly, I am sick of ...

...seeing your nasty, rude posts and sick of your 'tude that somehow everyone but YOU is wrong.

I feel sorry for anyone who has a witch like you for a nurse. Don't bother to reply...cuz the minute I post this, you go on IGNORE.

[Carolina]

28. HRC's voting record is what truly sucks

along with her campaign...

Ready on day one? Not even ready for a formidable primary opponent

35 years of experience? As First Lady (AK, US). Thanks to Bill, she's a poster child for feminism... NOT!

A fighter for the people? Yeah, 7 years in the Senate of going along with repukes to get ahead politically.

HRC and Team Hillary are truly empty of ideas, management, style, substance

[SoFlaJet]

34. yea Carolina but as Bill said

she's at a disadvantage since her campaign has been operating "On a shoestring" a 130 million dollar shoestring-expensive strings-when i saw that one I fell off my computer chair

[meow mix]

86. not too bad of a string..

:eyes:

[meow mix]

89. agree nt

[TwilightGardener]

33. Weird. Was this post about Obama?

[SOS]

38. JD magna cum laude from Harvard Law School.

That's your definition of a resume that "sucks"?

:eyes:

[libertee]

49. and his thought processes are so slow...watch him "think" ! Tedious

[sendero]

58. I'd rather have a maybe..

... than a definitely no like HRC.

[NoSheep]

88. I've listened to him in all the debates. I didn't hear an empty suit.

is this all you have? Are you joking? I'm not necessarily supporting any candidate at the moment but he and Hillary are OBVIOUSLY both intelligent and they both have good ideas.

[redstate_democrat]

97. His resume sucks?

Well, I'm sure Hillary Clinton's experience as a fish gutter and first lady really makes all of the difference when it comes to running a country.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[blm]

4. If she meant it she would've joined Kerry when he stood against the decision to invade

when weapon inspections were working to prove force was not needed. He did it before, during and after the invasion, and she had plenty of time to join him and give back up to that position - but she stood with Bush. Even as the nominee was left on his own to make that stand as an IWR yes vote.

She wouldn't be having the credibility problems she is having now if she would have shown the integrity of her position then.

[Carolina]

23. exactly

her words were cheap because after that shameful vote to authorize the use of force against a nation that was not an imminent threat and that had never harmed us, she was mute.

Never spoke out between the 10/2002 vote and the atrocity known as Shock and Awe in 3/2003.

In fact, didn't change her war tune until public opinion (manifested by the 2006 midterms) was at odds with her position and would jeopardize her POTUS bid!

[sendero]

65. Exactly..

.. she started bad-mouthing the war only when it became politically impossible not to.

All politicians lie but most of them about trivialities. HRC lies about Iraq because she doesn't really want to end it, her "supporters" (and I'm not talking about voters) wouldn't like that.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

91. I've suspected this too...

Do you think Obama is of the same inclinations?

[Cha]

39. hilary has no integrity..that's her deal.

She obviously thought she couldn't get anywhere with it.

[blm]

63. Right - if Kerry was out there on his own and getting hammered for it, that was fine with her then.

And now she wonders why she isn't believed. Kerry MEANT it at the time before, during and after and took all the hits that came with it because other IWR voters like Hillary wouldn't stand with him.

Imagine if they had. Imagine if Bill chose to spend his 3 week book tour supporting Kerry's positions solidly instead of defending Bush the entire time.

[Cha]

79. That would be a different story instead

of the one with the desperate hilary. They were shoring up her "tough" image and playing politics with our Soldiers' lives and livelihoods.

And a lot of us knew it at the time.

[Maven]

5. Barack is cueing up a response right now.

He just has to talk to Deval Patrick, and he'll get back to you.

[catgirl]

16. Hillary's consulting with Tata right now

She'll back to you after she figures out how to
continue hurting american workers.

[GarbagemanLB]

41. HAHA. So true.

[Maven]

74. Meanwhile, Obama scrubs his website to dupe the workers of Wisconsin and Ohio

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4664208&mesg_id=4664208

[CoffeeCat]

17. Good one!

While you drown in Hillary's daily, irrelevant attacks--you miss her warmongering
and lying.

Lovely.

Such outrage over a few borrowed words, but not a blip on the EKG for a lying neocon
enabler posing as a Democrat?

[RememberWellstone]

98. Probably true

Has he mastered anything in his political career? Hope has been around for a long time.

[Tarc]

6. To employ a favorite response of the O-Bots...yawn.

Every day brings a new attempt to spin the IWR vote in a new and exciting direction. Every one of these attempts that tries to lay the blame on someone other than the Bush administration and its neocon backers is fraudulent and dishonest.

[GarbagemanLB]

11. lol! yeah, those who voted to give him authorization should take no responsibility.

:rofl: :rofl:

[Name removed]

14. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[CoffeeCat]

25. I'm not spinning...those are Hillary's own words..

She told us during the debate that her vote was "let the inspectors do their job."

Clearly, she says that the vote "could lead to war" and was "one of the hardest decisions
she's ever had to make".

You don't need to spin with her. You just post her words and the lies materialize.

[Carolina]

43. exactly, her cheap words

that can never cover her ass for that vote...

[SoFlaJet]

10. "it is CLEAR"

how did she assess that? Through her staff since she has admitted that she didn't even read the NIE before the vote she "cast with conviction". There is blood on your hands Mrs. Clinton. We don't need people like this who are too busy to even READ reports before making PURELY POLITICAL DECISIONS on matters of life and death.

[GarbagemanLB]

12. But she was married to Bill! She must be up to the task!

[SoFlaJet]

24. yea and "ready on day one" my ass

this vote was bad enough then she compounds her inability to grasp the gravity of a situation by what I think is an even MORE egregious act in the senate with her support of the Kyl/Lieberman bill. If John Edwards endorses her after what HE said in the next to last debate about THAT vote, then I will lose a LOT of respect for the man.

[BrightKnight]

83. Hillary did not spend 8 years baking cookies in the Whitehouse. - n/t

[killbotfactory]

76. But she got debriefed by the Bush administration!

Who wouldn't trust them?

[BrightKnight]

84. The Repugs hit them with everything they had because they liked what they were doing.

I always thought that they trying to slow him down or stop him. The Obama Repugs have really opened my eyes.

[Major Hogwash]

13. That's because she wasn't clairvoyant.

She didn't realize the war would be going on 5 years later.

Or did she?

[John Q. Citizen]

18. Hillary wanted to invade and occupy for the oil, the water, and the basing opportunities.

I have no doubt about that.

[harun]

21. And she thought it would be "easy" just like B*sh did.

[TwilightGardener]

48. And she thought it would prove what a TOUGHSTER, what a HAWK she is

for her Presidential run--had the war been over and the troops back home and the rah-rah ticker-tape parades just a memory, it would have been a perfect triangulation for her campaign right about now. Damn those stubborn Iraqis, for fighting back and not submitting to our will! Now she has to try to explain her old pro-war position and her new anti-war position at the same time!

[meow mix]

80. bingo on these posts. inside, everyone knows this to be the truth..

some just live on the nile...

[ClintonTyree]

20. Oh goodie....

another Obamoonie to put on ignore. Buh bye!

[CoffeeCat]

27. You have fun with that denial of yours!

Ignoring reality is essential if you're supporting Hillary Clinton.

Facing reality would cause psychological implosion.

It's best to put me on ignore...because you're only interested in press releases
coming from Hillary's communications team.

Enjoy oblivion.

[SoFlaJet]

31. you notice how they disappear from threads

like lemmings off a cliff when faced with these hard truths TS?

[CoffeeCat]

35. I see it and it's so sad...

Don't we want a decent President? Don't we all want the same things?

I don't understand this.

You put evidence in front of them, and they put their hands over their ears
and yell, "La la la la la...I can't hear you!"

Do these people want more war?

How can they trust Hillary Clinton?

It's very bizarre.

[SoFlaJet]

37. they won't be happy until

they tear this party in two and hand the GE to McCain so they can try again in 2012-I'm CONVINCED

[CoffeeCat]

44. ...and they insinuate that we're "cultish"...

...when they overlook warmongering and lies--in order to continue
their support of Hillary?

That's cultish. It's very bizarre.

I agree with you, Hillary--like some of her supporters--serve their
own interests and ego first--and what happens to the party or others
in the process is irrelevant background noise.

[TwilightGardener]

57. To me, Hillary supporters on here are like Bush's 30-percenters. Hillary ripping the limbs

off of kittens on videotape would be explained away as anti-Hillary plot, and you and I would be Freepers repeating RW talking points for saying we thought it was a bad move.

[SoFlaJet]

61. hopefully dog

today marks the beginning of the end of her run...although I suspect she'll do everything in her power to try to get John McCain elected so she can run against him in 2012

[TwilightGardener]

66. I agree, but I'm really nervous about today. I can't relax. Obama has to win, or

the rest of the race is in jeopardy, IMO.

[SoFlaJet]

72. think good thoughts

10 in a row!!!!!! 10 in a row!!!!!!!!! 10 in a row!!!!!!!!!!

[meow mix]

45. bizzare how they just shut thier eyes and go along..

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[global1]

26. That Depends On What Your Definition of 'IS' Is.......nt

[BlueStater]

29. You mean the one Mr. "Hope" conviently didn't have to vote for?

I'm not supporting Hillary but I ain't buying his bullshit either.

[GarbagemanLB]

32. Yeah, it's not like there are speeches online of him opposing the war from the start...

:rofl:

[BlueStater]

46. His senate votes tell a different tale

I'm certainly not impressed that he had the great "courage" to oppose the war as a local politician from a solid blue state.

He continues, to this day, to fund the war and failed to vote on a bill setting us up for a potential war with Iran, which doesn't fill me with high confidence that he would had voted against the war had he actually been in the senate at the time. So just laugh it up while you can.

[TwilightGardener]

54. Defunding isn't much of an option. Sorry, I know that that's the Hillary supporters'

only defense (Obama funds!), but it's not a good or desirable way to end the war. Many, many people in Congress are hesitant to go there, for a whole host of good reasons--including Hillary. Nice try though.

[GarbagemanLB]

55. Can you blame them? It is all her supporters have...kinda sad, really.

[meow mix]

56. they just cant let go of that republican talking point

:puke:

[BlueStater]

30. delete n/t

[Cha]

36. You got it, TwoSparkles...Proof

about the one thing I care about the most and hilary is a two faced liar..always mumbling platitudes outta one side of her mouth and lying her tweaked head off outta the other.

[meow mix]

40. she knew what was happening... now shes pretending otherwise.

shameless.

she should just apologize.

[Carolina]

50. too little, too late

An apology now for the unforgivable is too little, too late.

There are no do-overs, reincarnation of the dead, restoration of a society... with the death and devastation that this war has wrought.

May those who voted for this assault on a nation of innocent people who never posed an imminent threat to the US and never attacked the US pray for their own salvation.

Voting for the use of force is the most serious thing those Congress critters do. Tragic how many Dems with POTUS aspirations got it wrong. We expected as much from repukes.

[meow mix]

93. yeah..

true i guess...
x(

[Az_lefty]

42. thanks for finding this....K&R

[Scurrilous]

47. K & R

:thumbsup:

[jillan]

51. A shameless liar?

Can't you feel the hope of new politics?

[meow mix]

53. first we need to cut away the rot..

:toast:

[SoFlaJet]

59. yea we can

that's why we're all voting for him-HE didn't VOTE for a lie and then compound it with support of Kyl Lieberman. What IF the Bush admin. went and dropped tactical nukes on Iran like they wanted to and justified it by saying THAT amendment was as good as a declaration of war? How would you Hillary supporters defend THAT one too? Would you all say "oh well it's OK, she didn't think they'd actually GO to war". You people are delusional

[BlueStater]

60. Give me a break.

He didn't even vote on the Iran bill. He has no ground to stand on.

[SoFlaJet]

62. what was her vote?

case closed

[BlueStater]

64. Case closed my ass

Not showing up is almost as bad as voting for it.

[meow mix]

67. i wish more had the conviction to not show.. including hillary

wouldnt be in this situation maybe and a lot of people would still be living.

[BlueStater]

73. So he gets praise now for being too cowardly to take a stand?

:crazy:

[meow mix]

75. ?? he takes the most heat for boycotting... how is that cowardly

seems the cowardly thing to do is bow down before bush.
like hillary did

[SoFlaJet]

69. really now

so in Hillaryland a non vote is equal to an aye? Maybe she should have stayed home both days-Iraq and Iran...she may actually have had a chance to win this thing-because right now she's on her way D-O-W-N and out.............TEN IN A ROW!!!!!!!!! TEN IN A ROW!!!! TEN IN A ROW!!!!!!!

[jillan]

68. He didn't even show up to vote.

Alot easier not to take a stand.

[jillan]

70. My candidate was Joe Biden. Joe Biden and Chris Dodd were the only

ones that voted NO on that bill.

[rinsd]

71. Yeah it was so important he decided to go to Maine to campaign.

[CoffeeCat]

81. I would think that finding your way...

...to a new day in politics, means that you first must distinguish
the self-serving, dishonest charlatans--from the good guys.

[kwassa]

77. All politicians lie. That is a fact of life.

It comes from trying to make everyone happy all the time, an impossible task, but necessary to get the most votes, saying different things to different constituencies.

The longer they've been in politics, the more lies they've told.

the old joke.

"How can you tell when a politician is lying?

His lips are moving."

[meow mix]

85. kick

:mad:

[Perry Logan]

92. Guys...you can only falsely accuse someone of lying so many times before people see through you.

[Kahuna]

96. LOL! What does that mean, Perry? What lies? nt

[elixir]

94. No, she's not a liar. You just like to categorize her response as a lie. It was a hard decision.

[Tennessee Gal]

95. To come here and call any other Democrat a shameless liar

is a violation of the DU rules.

This is disgraceful.