New Clinton Ohio Ad: "She's worked the night shift, too"

[wheresthemind]

Alright I think this is a pretty good ad and I know what the ad is TRYING to say (that Senator Clinton has worked late and hard for ordinary people). But does the last line the last line "She’s worked the night shift, too" make anyone else squirm a little? It just seems like some could take it as she has actually had to work a night shift in a tough service sector job or something which given her relatively privileged life I would guess (but could be wrong) that she hasn't.

This isn't flame bait, just something that caught my attention when I watched the ad.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7g0NxL2g-M&eurl=http://thepage.time.com/

You pour coffee, fix hair, you work the night shift at the local hospital. You’re often overworked, underpaid, and sometimes overlooked.
But not by everyone.
One candidate has put forth an American family agenda to make things easier for everyone who works so hard.
Universal healthcare.
Increased daycare.
And help with elder health care.
She understands. She’s worked the night shift, too.
I’m Hillary Clinton and I approved this message.

[babylonsister]

1. And here I thought she only worked '9 to 5'.

;)

[JackORoses]

2. Hillary has never had a regular job, much less one that has a Night shift

It's damn funny that Hillarites care more about Obama's words, which are at least truthful, than Hillary's words, which are very often not anywhere near the truth.

They would rather call Obama a plagiarist than admit that Hillary is a full-on LIAR.

[11 Bravo]

7. Not sure what's on display here ... your bias or your ignorance.

Even her detractors will admit that HRC is one of the hardest-working Senators in office, routinely working long hours and well into the night.

[JackORoses]

12. which of her myriad jobs(Corporate Lawyer, First Lady, Senator) had a night shift?

Just because a Session of the Senate may run late does not in any way constitute a Night Shift.

It is a slap in the face of any American who does work the Night Shift for Hillary to dishonestly make such a claim.

[Hoof Hearted]

70. How about the job she had gutting fish on an Alaskan pier? Real enough for you?

Did she have to do it at night? I don't know, I don't have a copy of her work schedule. But plainly, she's worked very hard in her life and has a great appreciation for working people - borne out of personal experience.

What grueling, gritty, manual labor jobs has Barack Obama done?

[JackORoses]

81. tell me more about Fishwife Hillary

I find her much more intriguing than the one we have to put up with now.

[boppers]

88. Ooh, more for her resume!

She has not only shot a duck, but has also cleaned fish!

Uhm, cleaning fish is also considered *entertainment*, as part of fishing, and is also known as "being able to cook for one's self".

As far as Barack goes, the dude worked as a Teacher.

Oh, please, please, defame that profession's hours and work ethic, as I'd love to see the fireworks.

[Cha]

27. hilary hard working at smearing Obama

and hard working at supporting bush's War On Iraq.

[ShortnFiery]

91. HRC may "work hard" but by her campaign, she sure as shit is NOT "a leader" nor "a team player."

:thumbsdown:

[rodeodance]

32. What an ignorant thing to say!!

[Hoof Hearted]

72. I swear to God I wish she'd talked about the job gutting fish at least a few times in the debates.

How much more working-class, gritty and tough can you get?

I have my doubts as to whether Obama's done much in the way of serious manual labor.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

48. Clinton ad: "Make Millions on the Night Shift, I did"

:rofl:

[LisaM]

3. She is one of the hardest working Senators there is.

Heck, when she was in Washington a couple of weeks ago, she came to a late night rally (got here around 9:30 pm), was there for at least an hour and a half, then was up in the morning to do a TV interview (only candidate who accepted the invitation), and then proceeded on to a town hall meeting afterwards. 3 activities within 13 hours. So yeah, I think it's ok. McCain and Obama were here, one event each, and not at night.

[bluestateguy]

5. Indeed she is

And that's why we should keep her in the Senate.

[thereismore]

13. Does that pass for a night shift? What's a night shift these days? nt

[Obamanaut]

38. Not necessarily true, based on percentage of missed votes.

HRC is at 27.1% missed votes, with both Obama and McCain having a higher percentage of missed votes. There are over 90 senators who have a better voting record.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/vote-missers/

[wheresthemind]

82. Well I'd say this isn't that bad given she is running for president

What would be more telling is number of votes missed pre-presidential run. Don't know if anyone has those numbers.

[my3boyz]

57. Good. Then let her remain in the senate and continue to work hard! :)

[K Gardner]

4. I can't wait to show this to the nurses who work night shift with me. It will

no doubt be good for multiple guffaws in between the traumas rolling in the door. HRC has no fans among the night shift in *my* ER.

[LisaM]

11. Why not? She had a town hall meeting here WITH nurses

That was her specific audience. Do you somehow think that Obama or McCain care more about nurses than she does? (Not saying that either doesn't care about nurses, BTW).

A friend of mine has a friend back in NY who is a nurse, and she makes $12 an hour, works all the OT she can, and won't vote for a Democrat, just to spite herself, I guess.

OTOH, I have a sister-in-law who is a nurse, and another who is an OT, and they both support Hillary.

[rodeodance]

84. thanks for your post.

[Radical Activist]

89. Obama's wife worked for a hospital for many years.

So I'd be willing to bet he's given it more thought than Hillary.

[VolcanoJen]

6. I'm in Ohio, and 100% Obama, but I think Hillary's new ad is GREAT.

I really do, and I've seen it many times here on local TV.

More like this from the eventual Democratic nominee in November, please!!

[rodeodance]

33. :-)

[VolcanoJen]

68. Well, dammit, credit where credit is due!

That ad kicks ass!!!!

:hug:

[Coexist]

8. I don't like the ad - you can see the vid and read why here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x95274

My initial response to this ad was a little outrage - I've calmed down a little now, but I still stand by my words:


First, yes, I support Barack Obama.

However, having worked the 11-7 shift in a diner to put myself through school (yes, going to class after work smelling like grease) for 3 years, this commercial pisses me off. Some rich lady married to someone powerful, sitting in a nice office with staff to bring her hot coffee compares herself to a nurse or waitress working 3rd shift?!

I can't imagine anyone who has ACTUALLY WORKED A FULL NIGHT SHIFT will think that someone staying up late to catch up on work is anything remotely close to the same thing.

Holy crap - she needs to fire someone. That was insulting.

[Tom Rinaldo]

15. Honest question: Isn't 11:00 pm to 7:00 called "the graveyard shift"?

I think 5:00 PM to 1:00 AM can be called a Night Shift for example. I used to work in Psychiatric Half Way Houses, when I worked after midnight through dawn we called it an "overnight shift", having to work past 10:00 PM qualified as a night shift to us. I guess it's semantics, but that is the usage of the phrases that we used in our work world.

[Coexist]

18. we called it 3rd shift or night shift

it was 7-3, 3-11, 11-7.

11-7 was the shitty shift to work.

the online dictionary:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/night+shift

Noun 1. night shift - the work shift during the night (as midnight to 8 a.m.)
graveyard shift
duty period, work shift, shift - the time period during which you are at work
2. night shift - workers who work during the night (as midnight to 8 a.m.)
graveyard shift
shift - a crew of workers who work for a specific period of time

[lapfog_1]

20. In a lot of places

it's 12am to 8am - graveyard
8am to 4pm - day shift
4pm to 12am - night shift or evening shift.

But these can move around +/- a couple of hours.

And then there is military watches... and they get really weird (4 hour shifts, on off on on off off etc)

[rodeodance]

34. especially in hospitals

yugga

[ronnykmarshall]

40. I've worked both swing shift and grave yard.

Grave yard was the WORST!

[Window]

41. Everything about her campaign is insulting.

I know where you are coming from.



Peace:thumbsup:

[elixir]

60. Then you might was to consider visiting other threads.

[XemaSab]

43. Didn't she admit the other day that she hadn't driven a car in like 20 years?

:shrug:

[Hepburn]

49. Geeeeeeeez, she worked the night shift!?!?!

What unmitigated bullshit. In undergrad school, I worked the ER and went to school full time during the day. In law school, I have various jobs: I clerked, danced in a bar, and worked for a private investigation firm and STILL finish law school in 3 years ~~ and some of those classes were done at night school so I could work a day job at times, too. My late husband got thru law school by driving cab and studying by the dome light.

GMAFB, Hillary...you have NO clue what it means to work the fucking night shift! What a fucking insult to those who have really had to do stuff like this!

:puke:

[elixir]

53. It sounds like HRCs is working harder and longer than you. You pulled down 8 hrs., she probably10hrs

[Danger Mouse]

9. She is a very hardworking senator...

but honestly...this comes across as somewhat patronizing.

[THUNDER HANDS]

10. talk about plagarism

Kathleen Sibelius had an ad that showed her doing the exact same thing. I tried to find it, but I can't right now.

[rodeodance]

14. I am sure she has burned the midnight oil a night--as has obama.

[ORDagnabbit]

17. burning the night oil is NOT the same as working the night shift....

trust the people who have actually spent months or years working the night shift instead of people who sometimes work late to get something done...

[thereismore]

25. Really. I worked night shifts. The time after 2AM is critical. Once I got past 4AM I was OK. nt

[goodgd_yall]

77. For me 4 am to 4:30 am was the hardest time

I would get so sleepy, but once I got through it, I could keep going.

[rodeodance]

30. I have done both. And what do you know about her night work??

[elixir]

61. Yes, it is. In fact it's working longer and harder than those that are working the night shift becau

se the idea is she's working all day AND night. The night shifters, god love'em, are working 8 hours during a crappy time.

[lapfog_1]

16. Love to see her time cards so she can prove this...

oh wait... nevermind.

[MonkeyFunk]

19. It's smart

her support comes largely from blue-collar workers. She's appealing to them - nothing wrong with that.

[JackORoses]

28. She's lying to them. There is something wrong with that.

Or do you know where it was that Hillary worked a Night Shift?

and remember, a late day in the Senate is not a Night Shift...

[rodeodance]

36. stop lying about her lying. What do you know about her work--really??

[JackORoses]

78. I know she never worked at a job that had a Night Shift. Really.

[elixir]

64. Oy fuckin' vey, let this go people. I preferred when you were harping on her policies

[JackORoses]

79. it sucks when you find out your candidate is a liar, huh?

[RoadRage]

21. Yeah.. i'm a Global Account Director for a Fortune 500 Company..

I worked until 11:00pm last night on a project that is due on Friday.

Do I think I work the friggin' Night Shift? HELL NO! I'm a salaried employee. I get paid a hell of a good wage to "work the night shift" when needed to finish projects on time.

Comparing myself, or Mrs. Clinton to the poor guy/gal pouring coffee or working at 3:00am in the hospital for $9.00 an hour is a total insult.

Barack Obama *ALSO* works the "night shift"... but he's not claiming to currently be in a similar situation to those people.

Wow.

Funny.. the ad didn't mention all of the time that Bill worked the "night shift". If I was a Clinton, i'd probably stay away from that phrase..........

[thereismore]

22. It's a really beautiful ad. I don't know about that last line - it sounds so fake.

I could be wrong. Maybe she did work night shift in the 60's? Hillbots tell me!

Other than the last line, the ad is perfect for OH.

[rug]

23. It's nice to see a political ad set in a workplace instead of a Hannah Montana concert.

[nomorewhopper]

24. The Original Commodores Video "Night Shift"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j0mjA06Y9M

have a listen

[GarbagemanLB]

26. Hey, working for the corporate offices at Wal-Mart was hard work!

[Beregond2]

29. Night Shift

Oh brother. Yeah, she's one of the working poor all right. Could this campaign be any more clueless? It is as if they are trying to make her look ridiculous.

This isn't a flame against Hillary. I actually am starting to feel sorry for her, being advised by such morons. Of course, she chose them.

[Hepburn]

50. Boy...clueless sure as hell hits it right on!

Night shift??? Bull shift...er....shit!

[Mags]

31. It is a great ad. Sure hit home for me.

[nomorewhopper]

35. best hillary ad i've seen yet, but

i dont like the "she's worked hte night shift" tagline

still, the ad works and i like it

[rodeodance]

37. nice to hear. Both she and Obama are till running ads in WI (about 3 I heard both)

[XemaSab]

39. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE SEXIST SHIT I'M TALKING ABOUT!

Pour coffee? Fix hair? Work the night shift at the local hospital?

So she's talking to waitresses, hairdressers, and nurses.

Three traditionally female professions.

If this was an old-timey ad from 1968, women would be rioting in the streets. :grr:

[GarbagemanLB]

42. She's appealing to her base, those who don't go to college and blue collar workers.

I don't see it as sexist. I do think it is hilarious that she tries to play herself off as 'one of them' though. :rofl: :rofl;

[XemaSab]

45. I think the whole idea that her "base" is blue-collar women

is sort of buying into a sexist sterotype in and of itself.

I've heard about the "good old days" where girls in school on career day had to pick between mommy, nurse and teacher.

But this ad is such a sterotype of what these womens' lives are like, it's sort of offensive.

I mean, hell, I'm a biologist and I've worked on surveys where I had to get up at 3. I know women who have worked in factories, painted houses, fixed cars, and done other non-traditional blue-collar jobs. Hillary's blue-collar work experience was working in a cannery. This ad just seems SO patronizing.

(Also, if she's talking to waitresses, hairdressers, and nurses, hairdressers never work the night shift and nurses are pretty well educated. :shrug: )

[Thepricebreaker]

55. Oh give me a fucking break will ya? MOST people that do hair and are nurses are woman... GET OVER IT

The majority of all those jobs she showed are not dominated by woman??

Sexist? Its REALITY...


Im sure it would be better if the ad showed a woman as a line backer in the NFL or someone chopping wood..
Because most woman relate to that.. :eyes:

[XemaSab]

62. If the gays can be pissed off about Obama's supposed homophobia

(and I respect that) then I can be pissed off when I see sexism.

Got it? :shrug:

[Kittycat]

59. That's because NAFTA put many of the male night shift standards out of work.

Factory work often ran 1st, 2nd and often 3rd shifts. Those jobs were dominated by men... men which lost their jobs when the factories closed.

[XemaSab]

63. *snap*

:o

[XemaSab]

65. And furthermore

it bugs me that you can't tell where her career begins and her husband's ends.

There are many examples of female politicians who got where they are 100% on their own strength. I know she helped Bill out with his career, but he definitely helped her out too.

Like, for example, did she get her Wal-Mart job on her own merits, or because she was married to the governor?

Yeah, it's a touchy question, but I want a woman president who got where she was 100% by herself, and not on someone else's coattails. :(

[Vinca]

44. It's demeaning and condescending to people who really do work the night shift.

If, heaven forbid, she wins the nomination, she needs some new media people. Someone under the age of 60.

[Hepburn]

51. Hey...watch that crack about age 60, young one!

This summer I hit that magic number...and I sure as hell can tell you that I would NEVER use the bullshit her media people have used. Age has NOTHING to do with being a dork! :hi:

[Vinca]

69. FYI I'm 59 and counting.

:toast: Sometimes we're just not cool anymore.

[Cha]

90. Maybe we should suggest she get

someone with this century in mind for her ad campaign, then? :)

[rodeodance]

83. 73. She had a job gutting fish on an Alaskan pier. Is that tough enough for you?

[Diane R]

46. She'd better be prepared to tell us WHEN and HOW she worked nights. Exaggerating, she's toast.

[City Lights]

47. When and where did she work the night shift?

And feeding Chelsea or changing her diaper in the middle of the night don't count.

What a pant load.

On edit - Wolfson answered my question:

So has Clinton worked the night shift? Spokesman Howard Wolfson said Tuesday that "the reference is to her working late at night at her desk."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/19/clinton-ad-shes-worked-the-night-shift-too/?eref=ib_politicalticker

What an insult to people actually working night shifts!

[Bluerthanblue]

52. she hasn't got a clue about what being forced to work the night shift is like-

- when it is what you have to do to survive-

but this is 'politics'.

Or what it is like not to be able to afford any kind of decent child care, or what trying to live on minimum wage is like, or being a single parent really is like, or what it feels like to have to choose between a roll of toilet paper and a loaf of bread.

but again - this is 'politics'

I don't pay much attention to political advertising.

:shrug:

peace~

[elixir]

54. I like this ad, it's what HRC is about. the working class.

[LTR]

56. Hey, pimpin' ain't easy, ya know

:hide:

[tabasco]

58. Soldiers in Iraq work the night shift too.

Thanks to cowards like H. Clinton.

[GarbagemanLB]

66. Wow. Excellent response.

[XemaSab]

67. Here's the meat:

Jay Carson, a spokesman for the Clinton campaign, told The Caucus that line does not refer to any hourly paid job Mrs. Clinton has held. Instead, it’s a “rhetorical reference” to her long nights as a lawyer, First Lady and now as a senator. “She is certainly known for her work ethic,” he said.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/new-clinton-ad-night-shift/

[bunnies]

71. I'd like to know WHEN HRC has ever worked a night shift.

As a woman that worked 11pm to 7am in a shit-hole diner in Raleigh NC for several years. I would LOVE to know what HRC's idea of a night-shift is. Goddamn it.

[Hoof Hearted]

73. She had a job gutting fish on an Alaskan pier. Is that tough enough for you?

Or will you find some way to belittle that too?

I'm guessing you're going to take option B, and no, I don't know if she gut the fish at night, but neither do you.

[bunnies]

74. ummmmmm.

What?!?! Deadliest Catch style? Please provide a link to Hillary gutting fish! :bounce:

on edit: lol. A letterman clip? My "favorite summer job" is hardly middle class 3rd shift. What a joke.
____________________________________________________
Presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) just told David Letterman her favorite summer job was as a young woman gutting salmon in Alaska.

During the task, which she dubbed "sliming fish," she wore hip boots and an apron.

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/bellantoni/2007/08/hillary_sliming_fish_prepped_m.html

[Hoof Hearted]

76. See how predictable you are? n/t

[bunnies]

80. no. nt

[bullwinkle428]

75. ROFLMAO - Just saw Tweety's criticism of this particular ad -

too many women, and not enough sweaty, manly men featured!!

These are not exact words, but barely off the mark...I know everyone loves to mock Tweety over this recurring theme he likes to employ, but this is Exhibit A and the prosecution rests in the Tweety is a Sexist Pig case!

[MrSlayer]

85. I'm not getting this night shift thing.

Is it supposed to be a hardship or something to work on a night shift? I'm here to say that it is quite the opposite. Night shift rules in my business, extra money, less work, no other annoying trades to deal with. I'm not getting it.

[boppers]

86. I at first liked the ad...

..and then thought about my shifts, and the harder shifts people I know have worked.

28/6 (28 hours of work, 6 of sleep, repeat for 7 days) in IT disaster recovery is hard.
16/8 (16 hours of solid, dangerous, manual labor with 8 of sleep, repeat for months) on a fishing boat is hard.

Staying a few hours late at an office reeks of, well, out-of-touch entitlement bullshit.

I'd ask her campaign what the longest shift she ever worked was, if I thought I could get a straight answer.

[Radical Activist]

87. Half her campaign is based on getting women to identify with her.

Its usually more subtle than this ad but she gets a lot of identity politics votes from women who put their careers on hold for their husbands, who got unfairly ganged up on by men they work with, cheated on by their husbands and so on. That's what her almost crying episode and her claims that the men in the race were gaining up on her were about. Its an emotional appeal that lacks substance.

[CorpGovActivist]

92. I am laughing at my Ohio family members' reaction to this ad.

Oh, this is gonna backfire.

- Dave

[DUyellow]

93. what were they saying?

[CorpGovActivist]

97. Oh, things like...

... "Hillary wouldn't know an honest night's work if it ..."

- Dave

[Hippo_Tron]

94. It's a good ad

[casus belli]

95. Gonna be some sweet sounds....comin' down....

on the night shift.

[Apollo11]

96. This is a shame. Hillary does work long hours, but her campaign should not tell lies.

I am sure Hillary does work very hard and probably more than 12 hours most days.

Her campaign is claiming that "night shift" is a metaphor for "working late".

But to say "she's worked the night shift" is untrue and misleading.