Hillary Clinton ended January with $7.6 million in debt – not including the $5 million personal loan

[DUyellow]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8613.html

[Coexist]

1. thats a damn shame.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Hillarys_loan_with_interest.html

at least she got her money back - with interest.

[Renew Deal]

21. And she's charging her supporters interest

Hillary is cashing in while she can.

[northzax]

43. federal law requires interest on loans to campaigns

do try and remember that. You are now attacking Hillary for obeying FEC regulations?

[CorpGovActivist]

37. .

[MonkeyFunk]

38. Which thread are you trying to knock off the front page

by kicking every anti-Clinton thread you can find?

[crispini]

2. LOL, great comment on that blog

"No wonder she cant fire Mark Penn. If she does, he ll ask for his money..hahahaha"

[zulchzulu]

4. I saw that too!

I was thinking about starting a thread with that little tidbit.

[crispini]

6. Go for it. I'm over my budget for today.

Who knew! I am shocked myself that I managed to post three threads. :D

[DUyellow]

7. this one is better.

"I don't know how anyone who reads this can feel comfortable with Clinton running our country. Between the money, the internal fighting, ect., this is not a well run campaign. When you concider she had all the advantages from establishment support to her husbands connections and political machine and tons of money and it was totally mismanaged. Just like Obama took his money and built a much admired organization and network with small donors of average people and has managed this operation very well. If you want to know who is actually the most capable and able and has the executive skills, you look to Obama."

[NJSecularist]

3. So all this talk about her great February fundraising...

.... and she's going to have to pay most of it back because she was so much in debt in Jan.

[DUyellow]

5. yup

[Divernan]

15. She'll try to keep suckering her supporters into sending in money

so she can collect enough to pay off her debts (and pay herself back) before she admits defeat. It will be interesting to see if she starts going on the cheap in Texas/Ohio.

[DUyellow]

17. you think? i think that may be a little of a stretch.. i am sure she will be spending over the next

2 weeks.

[Renew Deal]

29. Here's a little secret.

Hillary is going to spend everything in Ohio and Texas. That means that she will likely ignore VT and RI. Obama might be able to run up the score again in those two states.

[cali]

39. She's given up on Vermont

Obama has 7 paid staff here. Hillary? No one, as far as I can make out. Pat and Marcelle Leahy have made an ad for him. As I don't do TV, I'm not sure about Hill. Oh, and B&J are touring the state and giving out free ice cream to bribe us into voting for Obama. I doubt she gets even 35% here.

[K Gardner]

41. Barack Rocks Vermont ! Glad you're up there working, Cali :-)

[Kermit77]

27. She was trying to get suckers to send donations during her commercial *er I mean* concession speech

I think she knows her campaign is coming to an end and she doesn't want to end it in debt. She is hanging in just to get enough contributions to pay off her bills.

Remember she paid Tom Vilsack's campaign debts when he endorsed her. Who will pay her campaign debts if she drops out now? Barack?

Maybe the Obama campaign should offer her a deal. Drop out now and we will pay some of your debt.

[IndianaGreen]

8. Why won't she release her tax returns?

What is she hiding? That's what I want to know!

[Divernan]

16. Probably joint returns w/Bill & they need to hide his sleazier sources..

nt

[Barack_America]

9. That $2 million she owes Penn should just be written off.

He's done nothing to deserve it.

[crispini]

11. She sure didn't get much did she?

It's a pretty piss-poor arrangement for her, too, having to pay his company instead of just having him on the campaign payroll. You know there's a ton of overhead and wastage there.

[quantass]

24. Okay, so what did Penn do again? (rhetorical)

[Johnny__Motown]

10. So, she spent 140 mil + her own 5 mil + the 7.5 mil she owes?

She didn't just piss away 140 million dollars, she pissed away 152.5 million dollars?

Or am I reading this wrong?

[Renew Deal]

28. And she's personally making a profit off of her supporters.

Brilliant!

[Thrill]

12. Is this the way she would mange the country?

[nomorewhopper]

14. this is by far the biggest organization she (or barack) has ever managed

i don't want to say its the ONLY organization she has ever managed, because that might not be right.

still, it makes me nervous

[cottonseed]

33. i like your take on this - the management of the organization

holes can be poked in what running a "campaign" means, but this is a couple $100 million dollar organization we're talking about...

[nomorewhopper]

36. indeed

all the candidates, mostly senators who are not used to being a leader, have to run an organization with thousands of members, tens of thousands of volunteers, and hundreds of millions of dollars.

as a senator, you have a staff, but it's not the same. you're not managing cash flow, budgets, paying bills, and making important decisions on where to invest millions of dollars to achieve the best result

[caligirl]

19. she ran a cadillac operation and left nothing for emergencies. Now she has to stiff people.

[nomorewhopper]

13. how many major media markets in TX? OH?

texas, um: houston, dallas, san antonio, austin, probably places like amarillo and DAMN its gonna cost a lot to wage a campaign

same in ohio: columbus, cincinatti, cleveland.

and of course there's little rhody and vermont where i'm sure she'd like to advertise.

[nomorewhopper]

45. will she have money to even compete after oh/tx?

[caligirl]

18. she should stiff Penn the $2 million. worthless advisor. Bill could have done a better

job for free. Oh ah oops, loose lips sink ships. well Penn doesn't need a President anyway.

[Egnever]

20. It is starting to appear as of she was just funneling money to friends

and using the leftovers to actually campaign with. A large portion of her expenses are advisor's salaries. She doesn't seem to be getting her moneys worth.

[cottonseed]

46. I doesn't even sound like she's spending it in OH and TX either. nt

[workinclasszero]

22. Hillary is gonna have to work the night shift some more

:evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:

[ObamaFan]

32. ha ha..priceless...

[SoCalDem]

35. Decaf or regular, hon?

[Bread and Circus]

42. score!

[quantass]

23. I liked this COMMENT from the articles page (click me to read it)

vwcat wrote:

I don't know how anyone who reads this can feel comfortable with Clinton running our country. Between the money, the internal fighting, ect., this is not a well run campaign. When you concider she had all the advantages from establishment support to her husbands connections and political machine and tons of money and it was totally mismanaged. Just like Obama took his money and built a much admired organization and network with small donors of average people and has managed this operation very well. If you want to know who is actually the most capable and able and has the executive skills, you look to Obama

That says everything...President Obama is our man!

[UALRBSofL]

26. John Kerry's loan was a bank loan, and the campaign paid interest to the bank.

Hillary Clinton's $5 million loan to her campaign won't be a total loss for the candidate.

Campaign finance documents filed today show that she's charging her campaign an interest rate of 1.26%.

It's a modest rate which means that -- if she pays herself back with donor contributions -- she still would have been better off putting her money in a savings account at a commercial bank.

Clinton's loan has not, however, been paid back.

[loveangelc]

25. LOL. that is pathetic.

[Arugula Latte]

30. Ouch. nt

[ObamaFan]

31. Yowzer...the wheels are off the bus and down the street...lol

Good...glad..she needs to drop out

[meow mix]

34. Maybe she can sell her supporters names to telemarketing companies?

[Renew Deal]

40. That would equal the interest on her loan

She shouldn't be pocketing money from her supporters.

[Independent-Voter]

44. Damn - what a fucking trainwreck she turned out to be. That Senate seat is going to be getting warm

[mod mom]

47. Sorry landonb16 I posted the "..Owes Mark Penn.." thread and did a search

but with his name.

:hi:

rec'd