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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:50 PM
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in·ev·i·ta·ble
in·ev·i·ta·ble Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation

–adjective
1. unable to be avoided, evaded, or escaped; certain; necessary: an inevitable conclusion.
2. sure to occur, happen, or come; unalterable: The inevitable end of human life is death.
–noun
3. that which is unavoidable.

ar·ro·gant Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation

–adjective
1. making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud: an arrogant public official.
2. characterized by or proceeding from arrogance: arrogant claims.

Look folks. I'm no Hillary basher. People ask me when I 'became Liberal'. It was while I was in the Army of all places. Serving in Germany, I didn't like the mindset. I went in under Reagan and left under Bush I. We used to run and sing cadence. I HATED cadence. We would run through the German towns singing of "Killing Gooks" and "Sally"; oh that "Sally". See, "Sally" would sneak out against her mom's wishes and visit the Tanker Hangouts. "9 months later, out it came... a mean motherf*cker justa swingin' a chain..."

Those who served know what I'm talking about.

But I digress...

Inevitable

I voted for Bill twice. Proudly. When they came after him I defended him. Still do to this day. Proudly. When Hillary tried to pass her health care bill I supported her. Still do to this day. Wish it had passed. Hope it still will in some form.

But, there is this word: Inevitable and there is another one: Arrogance.

Inevitable=Arrogance

hhhmmmmmm

I like Hillary. I met her once (well shook her hand). She is dynamic and charming and i'm sure, intelligent. And Arrogant.

The "Clinton Machine" as it is called (and an apt name I believe) is probably the most powerful "machine" I have ever seen in my adult lifetime. It is formidable in so many ways. Awe inspiring in fact. Arrogant.

They thought they DESERVED this just because. They are finding out they don't. They, like all others, must EARN it. They didn't plan on THAT. The 'Clinton Machine' campaigned to win on 02-05. THAT was the date for inauguration day. Hillary was OWED this. She would take it in a cake walk. Thus was the 'Plan' and by God, it shall be so.

Arrogance

Along came an alternative. A dynamic alternative. Yes, Hillary hasn't helped herself with her 'War' vote(s), her insider deals, etc... I don't fault her for it as "it is what it is" in Washington, sadly. But don't be so quick to blame the media or Barack or the RW for Hillary's problems. She and "The Machine" underestimated the mood of the electorate this time. Hell, blame BUSH* for her woes if you want to blame anyone. HE is all that is wrong with this country and the populace is so hungry for something TOTALLY different that she is likely a victim of his total, criminal incompetence (like the rest of us are). See she was front and center and for good or bad, that has hurt her. I hope to hell it hurts 90% of the rest of them on BOTH sides.

I have been an Obama supporter for months now and make no apologies for it. I'm not anti-Hillary and cannot WAIT for a Woman President. Hell, I wish women could/would rule the World. We would ALL be better off.

But...

Arrogance and Inevitability won't guarantee you anything in this life. That is being proven.

Frankly, that makes this Liberal very happy.

Peace.


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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:53 PM
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1. hubris goes before the fall - the great human equalizer
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:53 PM
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2. that was a very interesting post
sorry for what might follow - that was clever and well written. I liked it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:56 PM
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3. Rec'd, and agreed. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:56 PM
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4. Very Well stated.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:57 PM
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5. you forgot
douche·bag
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:58 PM
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6. That's some interesting use of words.
"inevitable" and "arrogance" are two words thrown around a lot recently. But I think you just hit it home.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:58 PM
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7. To the Greatest page with thee!
5th rec and proud. Very nice. :hi:
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:58 PM
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8. Matcom can take it
but that's it exactly. I lost count of how many complaints I heard from the press regarding the arrogance of the Clinton Campaign.

here's what Google has to say on the subject:


Results 1 - 10 of about 110,000 for Clinton Campaign arrogance. (0.21 seconds) [/div
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:58 PM
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9. Agreed.
Hillary had damn near every advantage in the beginning -- money, name recognition, endless contacts and a former president in her corner.

I'm amazed that she has fallen so far.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:01 PM
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10. Boy, that's rich....Only Hillary is arrogant?
LOL!!
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:03 PM
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12. it is obviously my deep-hatred of women that prompted my thoughts
so sorry
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:04 PM
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14. ...
:rofl:

:thumbsup:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:06 PM
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16. You should post the definition of projection and read
that, since you seem very interested in the dictionary today.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:10 PM
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17. pro·jec·tion
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 07:11 PM by matcom
pro·jec·tion Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation
–noun
1. a projecting or protruding part.
2. the state or fact of jutting out or protruding.
3. a causing to jut or protrude.
4. the act, process, or result of projecting.
5. Cartography. a systematic construction of lines drawn on a plane surface representative of and corresponding to the meridians and parallels of the curved surface of the earth or celestial sphere.
6. Photography. a. the act of reproducing on a surface, by optical means, a remote image on a film, slide, etc.
b. an image so reproduced.

See, now i'm just horny and my "projecting part" might need some attention.


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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:19 PM
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26. Just don't "project" a "projectile" in your "horny" state.
:rofl:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:01 PM
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11. someone in another thread was just talking about inevitable
saying that Hillary had been pronounced inevitable because of her strong resume of 35 years and was being passed up by this fad of a campaign. The person suggested that it was a gender issue, that Hillary is superior to Obama, but that it's people's gender bias that's getting in the way. The poster lamented what we would tell our daughters, that even though they might have superior resumes they still won't get the job over some man.

I thought it was a rather large load of horsehockey.

She was pronounced inevitable because of how she was polling at the time. Republican pundits called her that, I suspect, because they hope to run against her. They called her flawless and inevitable. She would seem less so now.

It was that sort of talk early on, as if we might as well not even vote, that turned me of months ago. Arrogance indeed.

It's nice to know that resistance is not futile, that I need not be assimilated.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:03 PM
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13. Funny I was gonna make a post asking if there were any linguists here
because I really think we need to redefine inevitable.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:05 PM
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15. its now Obama who is inevitable--It IS his race to lose.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:13 PM
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18. But here's my fear about Obama in the GE
My biggest fear, is that during one of his cult me - er, rallies, he may get so swept up in the moment, he'll stop thinking and scream out, "KILL WHITEY!"


:scared:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:18 PM
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23. Wait! You mean he isn't supposed to do that?
FUCK! *throws machete to the ground, walks off muttering*
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:29 AM
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34. I AM 'Whitey' and I DESERVE to be killed
:rofl:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:15 PM
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19. the conflicting anti-Hillary messages are confusing me
on the one had we get the message that Hillary is too driven, that she wants it too badly, she's too ruthless, that everything she does is calculated to get elected, and then on the other hand we get this one that she is overconfident and thinks she can take it in a cakewalk.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:17 PM
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20. That's not conflicting.
History is littered with arrogant, ruthless people who were overconfident.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:18 PM
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24. Hitler comes to mind
but not to try to attach Hitler to anyone.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:19 PM
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25. Or George W. Bush.
See- getting rid of the ruthless, arrogant overconfidant people is the change we've been talking about.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:28 PM
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27. Hillary doesn't resemble Bush or Hitler
in this way or in any other.

Neither does Obama of course.

I've kept my head, this election hasn't caused me to become a jerk.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:41 PM
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29. Oh I agree.
I'm just illustrating how "arrogant" and "overconfidant" are not conflicting terms.

I wasn't bringing up the IWR at all.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:17 PM
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21. the 'anti-Hillary' messages are MEANT to confuse you
which isn't really difficult at all!

BUT

they ARE subliminal so you have to pay CLOSE attention!

good luck

:thumbsup:
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Tresalisa Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:17 PM
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22. Nicely done!
:kick: and recommended. :thumbsup: :hi:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:39 PM
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28. Recommended.
She and "The Machine" underestimated the mood of the electorate this time.

Spot-on true. Even in her recent speeches, I still get the feeling that she is out of touch. People want change. That is clear. They want it so badly that they are willing to take a risk and elect someone who is relatively unknown on the national scene.

It was a HUGE mistake not to pick up on this sentiment from the get-go and establish herself as a candidate for change in the beginning. Now Obama has change on lockdown and we all want to be hopemongers. He's even got the signs to match and has so effectively branded himself that when someone says "Obama" you think "hope and change."
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:44 PM
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30. nice post
well crafted piece of rhetoric. I happen to be converted already - but I think anyone
would have to admit that this is a well done post.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:47 PM
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31. thank you
and welcome to DU :hi:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:05 PM
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32. "Change You Can Xerox"
makes my point in this earlier thread methinks

game.set.match.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:06 PM
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33. I wonder how much she paid for that.
No refunds.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:44 AM
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35. Funny. I've seen several posts recently about Obama's incredible arrogance.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:11 AM
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36. You said it with more grace, clarity and style than I could. Thank you, matcom!
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 07:12 AM by leveymg
Well done!
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:51 AM
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37. k/R
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