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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:01 PM
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I give the debate to Clinton ...... but it won't make one bit of difference. Obama's got the Big Mo.
There's no doubt that we all see things through our own filters and apply to it our own biases.

I am not a big fan of either one of our candidates, but will be proud to vote for the eventual nominee.

In tonight's debate, it is my observation that Clinton won the debate. And her final statement was a Grand Slam. I also felt she was much more substantive than Obama. On health care she was far stronger than he.

She flubbed more than few, too. She should a line through "Xerox" in her notebook. And that plagiarism thing is a non-starter; to be SURE, she doesn't write her own shit either. Obama got a line from a friend. Big deal. Drop it, Hillary ... I'm tellin' ya.

But all of this is political mental masturbation.

Obama has the momentum. It was clear that the audience favored him. He'll win either Tejas or Ohio (and maybe both). While Clinton will stay in the race, it won't matter.

I now need to get my head around Obama.

As an aside, I also noticed that there was a very welcome absence from the debate - the "Black Preacher". I can not believe I am the only one who noticed that Obama was back to the voice, inflection, and cadence we all know is his more usual style - or at least his more usual public/politician style. I'm glad of that. He was getting too far into the weeds with the affectation and I fear he could scare away voters. As a nation and as a people we have come a long way ..... but we're not there yet. He needs to get elected. (No, this is not about me and my feelings. I hear this more often than I should, and I'm in Maryland .... not your basic red state.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:06 PM
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1. nah, Obama owned that debate, imo.
The ending got me though. Hillary really did it right.

But it wasn't those two who made me a bit teary, it was those two juxtaposed with all the vitriol I've been seeing/feeling on DU.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:08 PM
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2. they both did fine, but I think HRC needed to really dominate to make a come back
and she didn't.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:14 PM
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3. I think he won the debate but she had a great last answer that sounded also like she knows her
campaign is over.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:23 PM
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4. How could she not know its over?
The math is all wrong for her. I think they know. From this point on, her campaign is more Quixote than Caesar.

I bet Bill's the one who is more disappointed.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:27 PM
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5. I agree that she probably won't be the nominee, but
if something turns and people want to see that movie-style last minute victory - there will be nothing to stop that - no matter what the current numbers and conventional wisdom say.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:43 PM
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6. Obviously anything is possible .... and she is not numerically eliminated
But he's coasting downhill with a tail wind and she's climbing Everest.
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