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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:05 AM
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LET'S COME TOGETHER AND WIN
Okay, so before tonight's debate, I sort of couldn't stand Hillary. Now, I don't dislike Hillary AS MUCH as I did an hour before this debate. I think she is brilliant. I just don't agree with her health plan or her vote for the Iraq war. I also don't like some of the dirty tricks she has used (belittling him and his voters, racialization of some things, even on a subconscious level). And I kind of think she is in bed with Wall Street and the rest of corporate America. But I like that tough woman, for some reason. I don't think I can stomach Bill anymore and I loved him once upon a time. But Hillary, I think I can grow to love her again. But I also love the "common man" touch of Barack. I love his ideas. I love his newness because it is so refreshing. We've lived in the dark ages for so long and we need drastic change. He is so open to ideas and willing to pull everyone in. He is transparent. He is positive. I feel like I can trust him with the country and my life. I have doubts about Hillary sometimes, but I think she is super smart. I will be voting for Barack, but I don't totally hate Hillary that much anymore.

I know the most important thing we as Democrats MUST do is come together. We have to figure out some kind of way to get past this divisiveness and just "get real" about kicking out the Republicans this November. The way I have watched the Republicans rally around McInsane today has boggled my mine. They won't go without a fight. We need a unified party to do this. Let's come together!
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:23 AM
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1. Getting together
I would not worry too much about it. When the time comes to vote, we will be out to vote and put a new person in charge. I personally worry more about electing reps. and senators so that whomever is elected can actually get something done. I can also say for myself, after the disappointment of the last two years, they better get it done.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:24 AM
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2. Hillary should step down
so we can do this
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:57 AM
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4. HRC
IMHO, they should both stay in until the convention. The reason is simple, yet I don't see anything about it. As long as they are both in, the rethugs will not know who to swiftboat. Look at the big picture guys, we here know either is far better then ant of them, besides, it thrills me to hear and see two smart people articulate the positions. Take it easy and just be sure to vote.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:25 AM
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3. Read my sig line.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:02 AM
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5. What I saw from Hillary tonight at the end was a lot of respect for Barack
When she said she was proud to be up there with Barack Obama (using his full name, which added a lot of weight), it said a lot. She knows she losing, but I saw for the first time that she realizes she's losing to a phenomenal candidate and, as such, it's no disgrace.

It took Barack Obama to take down Hillary Clinton. That says a lot for her, as well.

I think we'll be fine.
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