Well it looks like Obama is up by around 80 delegates (based on various sources).

[Apollo11]

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EDIT: The original subject line of this thread was:
Latest NYT delegate count: Obama 1117, Hillary 1112 (lead: 5)
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I was surprised to see that according to the New York Times, Obama has a lead of only 5 delegates over Hillary Clinton right now. I guess they all have different methods of counting delegates "in the bag".
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/delegates/index.html

Here are all the latest delegate counts I can find:
NYT: Obama 1117, Hillary 1112 (lead: 5)
CNN: Obama 1319, Hillary 1250 (lead: 69)
AP: Obama 1351, Hillary 1262 (lead: 89)
WaPo: Obama 1358, Hillary 1264 (lead: 94)
MSNBC: Obama 1168, Hillary 1018 (lead: 150)

If we ignore the biggest and smallest leads, it looks like Obama has a lead of somewhere around 80 delegates.

It's not impossible for Hillary to come back but she has to win big on March 4th.

Apollo11 B-)

[Apollo11]

1. Associated Press: Obama 1351, Hillary 1262 (lead: 89)

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/delegates/index.html

[Spider Jerusalem]

2. The NYT count is worthless.

They don't count delegates from caucus states.

[TexasObserver]

8. the New York Times has ZERO credibility on delegate counts for Hillary. They cheat.

And they've been doing it for the past 7 weeks.

I don't even look at the NYT numbers any more, because they are pure fiction, SPIN designed to give the illusion that Hillary has more delegates than she does.

[Apollo11]

17. But AP, CNN, and WaPo all give Hillary more delegates than NYT.

The difference is in how many delegates they give Obama.

NYT is more conservative in how it counts delegates.

[TexasObserver]

21. You subject line is deceptive. They fudge the numbers and give Obama only a 5 delegate lead.

Here are all the latest delegate counts, and the spreads, which is what matters when spinning:

NYT: Obama 1117, Hillary 1112 (lead: 5)
CNN: Obama 1319, Hillary 1250 (lead: 69)
AP: Obama 1351, Hillary 1262 (lead: 89)
WaPo: Obama 1358, Hillary 1264 (lead: 94)
MSNBC: Obama 1168, Hillary 1018 (lead: 150)

[Apollo11]

3. Latest CNN delegate count: Obama 1319. Hillary 1250 (lead: 69)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/

[NastyRiffraff]

4. Which is exactly why I'm amazed at the people insisting Hillary should drop out

NOBODY knows the exact delegate count yet. And we have major states coming up. You'd think to hear some people talk that Obama has this thing sewn up...which is far from the truth.

[NDambi]

5. Hillary is down...Obama has more than a 5 delegate lead...the NYT is dizzy...check the othet outlets

No one calculates like the NYT>>

[NastyRiffraff]

13. I'm not talking about only the NYT

I'm saying that every single count is different. Nobody knows what the "true" count is yet.

I've never seen calls for a candidate to drop out when a race is this close. I'm not saying Obama is going to lose, so hold your fire, all Obama supporters. He may make it yet. But it's premature to DEMAND that Hillary throw in the towel.

[Apollo11]

15. I agree. This race is not over yet.

Let's see how well Hillary does on March 4th.

We only have to wait another 12 days to find out.

If Hillary does well on March 4th then she can go on.

We should all try to be patient and respect the process.

[NDambi]

19. I think Hillary should hang for now..but if he spanks her on March 4th..she needs to step out...if

he doesn't then she should stay..

But I forsee him taking a good chuck out of Texas..Of course that's just my opinion, anything could happen.

[cali]

18. She shouldn't drop out

unless she loses TX or OH. Even if she only edges him out in those states, she has reason to stay in. However, it's likely she's going to lose VT and RI and probably TX. In that case, she should IMMEDIATELY drop out. There would be NO excuse for continuing under those circumstances, and I don't think she'd damage the party and our chances in November, in that way.

[still_one]

6. The NY Times is NOT to be trusted. After Judy Miller that should have told you

what it had become

This latest episode with mccain is also a very controlled event. They held off the story, endorsed mccain, then produced the story ONLY after significant primaries had occurred, with more emphasis on an affair which probably DID NOT OCCUR, verses a lobbyists influence on him from the telecom industry, WHICH DID OCCUR

[Apollo11]

7. MSNBC delegate count: Obama 1168, Hillary 1018 (lead: 150)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22419475

[TexasObserver]

9. That's the most accurate count.

[MadBadger]

10. NY times says on its website that they dont do delegate projections

So for a state like Iowa where delegates have not been "officially" awarded yet, they do not count it.

[Apollo11]

11. Washington Post: Obama 1358, Hillary 1264 (lead: 94)

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/campaign08/primaries/

I have now updated the OP to include all the delegate counts.

If you find another one - please post it here!

Thanx - Apollo11 B-)

[Dogmudgeon]

12. The Official Pigwidgeon Super-Accurate Delegate Count

Obama: A whole lot.
Clinton: A whole lot, but less than Obama.

--p!

[shadowknows69]

14. I'm going with your poll service from now on

:thumbsup:

[thesubstanceofdreams]

16. Realclearpolitics.com, 1363-1271

That would be a 92 lead for Obama.
May be you should make it explicit in the OP that (except for MSNBC) all these counts INCLUDE superdelegates which are not pledged and can change their endorsements at any time. Among pledged delegates, Obama leads by about 150-160.

[Apollo11]

20. Thanks

In the past I have tried to look for numbers that don't include superdelegates.

It is true that superdelegates (or "automatic delegates") can change their endorsements at any time.

But I think that almost all of the superdelegates who already endorsed Hillary will stand with her for as long as there is a chance she might be able to come back and win the nomination.

I already changed the OP a whole bunch of times. Probably too late to change it again.

[Apollo11]

22. Kick

:kick: