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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:23 AM Original message |
Clinton's Excellent Health Care Plan Offers Choices; Is Affordable for ALL |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. Her plan is too reliant on the very private |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Not at all, it offers a government plan like Medicare |
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Submariner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Romneycare here in Mass is like Hillarycare - MANDATED |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Your first problem is equating it with plan in mass. Study it then come back to discuss it. |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. The first step to single payer is to have.... |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I refuse to be forced to buy into |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
3. Clinton's plan also has built into it the infrastructure needed for easy transition into UHC ...... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yes it does |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I'm not interested in having my pay garnished for healthcare... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. your pay is garnished for SS and education, police and fire protection why not HC? |
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libbygurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Exactly. (And where did that peculiar meaning of 'garnish' ever come from?) |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. that enough in my opinion... |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Your pay is already garnished for healthcare. |
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RunningFromCongress (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. She might very well have a better health care plan... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. No, she's better on the other issues, too |
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RunningFromCongress (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. She doesn't have more experience, period. That's not a valid argument. |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. The experience she has that COUNTS.... |
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RunningFromCongress (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. What leaders? Most of the leadership has changed since she left the white house... |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
36. Corporate leaders of course. nt |
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RunningFromCongress (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. What other issues? Freezing interest rates for 5 years is a horrible idea. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
12. Neither candidate has a good health INSURANCE plan. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. I am for a single payer also--But, as you both plans suck in that respect. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
18. Key, it that reaches all. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
19. Thanks OZ |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
21. Can you fix the link please. thanks |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. Sorry, new link here |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
23. But she doesn't say what affordable means - |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Exactly! What's "affordable"? n/t |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. And by comparing it to SS last night, she's raised the specter |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
25. K |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
26. Thank you for posting this again, |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. Yes the choice to be fined! |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
29. And what will those "affordable" premiums be? n/t |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
30. And NOWHERE does it say you get the SAME RATE as Congress |
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ORDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
32. Honestly, no plan is going to work unless we go to single-payer. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
33. Her plan is also mandatory for all, is a huge gift to the insurance industry, |
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RunningFromCongress (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
34. Kick b/c no one answered my questions |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. You said: |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Good questions bout the government plans |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. That's the impression I get too. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
39. And her LAST plan just SAILED through congress! |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
42. Three points: |
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