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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:34 AM
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OBAMA even admits he fools you with his speeches.
"So what I've been talking about, in these speeches - and I've got to admit, some of them are pretty good."

This was the most telling arrogant moment of the debate. It was shameless and just goes to show you how full of himself he is. It was a Bush-like moment.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:35 AM
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1. Oh please...
:eyes:
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:36 AM
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2. blah blah blah, he was joking.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:38 AM
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8. I was about to say - you need your humor meter checked.
Obama was definitely joking there.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:36 AM
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3. what was his tone of voice when saying that? What was it in response to?
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:37 AM
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4. Typical GDP Thread.
When will you all stop?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:39 AM
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12. Typically when one reaches puberty n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:37 AM
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5. It is confidence.
And, it is what will put a Dem in the WH.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:37 AM
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6. you seem to possess...
AMAZING insight...:sarcasm:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:37 AM
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7. It's called HUMOR
and people laughed.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:38 AM
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9. some things are taken just too literally on this board...
:eyes:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:39 AM
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10. omigod, you're correct, I'm for Hillary now. Go Hill! Where do I donate? n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:55 AM
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22. Send donations to the Debt Relief Fund at hillaryclinton.com
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texas_indy Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:39 AM
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11. The man is just tellin' it like it is, they are good speeches. GOBAMA!! (nt)
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:40 AM
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13. You're using flawed logic. Good try
but no cigar.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:40 AM
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14. NO ONE EVER EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:53 AM
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20. Put him in....the comfy chair!
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:44 AM
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15. You need a hug!
:hug:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:45 AM
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16. oh dear sad to see what some Hill supporters are reduced to
It won't work, but I understand that you're just in a state of grief and rage.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:47 AM
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17. There are these things called "jokes"...
they make people laugh. For example, you post would be considered one by some.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:50 AM
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18. It was to lighten things up, ya know, like a joke.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:53 AM
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21. Well Jonathan Alter on Olbermann last night said it was bad and he should never do it again. nt
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 10:07 AM by MassDemm
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:27 AM
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30. Well, that's Jonathan Alter's opinion.
That's the second time I've heard Barack say that and the audience seems to get it and laughs. You can't please all of the people...
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:51 AM
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19. What's arrogant is Hillary broadcasting all over the place that
she would have the nomination sealed by Super Tuesday.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:06 AM
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23. no kidding, and that DAMN notepad
It was flapping so arrogantly i just wanted to smash the TV.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:59 PM
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59. You're not kidding
Couln't they get the man a paper clip or something? :shrug:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:16 AM
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24. twinkle twinkle, little bot... hill will be the candidate... NOT
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:02 AM
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33. i literally laughed out lout at your post. n/t
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:23 AM
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37. thanks!
:hi:
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:19 AM
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25. Hey! you shold be ashame of yourself
is that the best you have. Petty little star.......
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:20 AM
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26. He is a very good orator - and even better than Elmer Gantry....nt
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:20 AM
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27. "good" = "fools you"?
Interesting. Some people are really against oratory. I consider it an art that should make a comeback.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:24 AM
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29. Yeah, I don't get that either. So if Hil says her health plan is good, she's fooling you?
Makes no sense.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:22 AM
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28. you know who he reminds me a little of? bill clinton. if he wins the GE
i suspect many of his current followers will be very disappointed in him.

ah well, better him than mccain.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:00 PM
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48. He reminds me a LOT of Bill Clinton; he's so smooth he's slick.
I didn't vote in the elections when Bill Clinton was a candidate, either. Oh. Wait. Yes, I did. I voted "Present."
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:01 PM
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53. i loved clinton in a way, but i had issues with some of his policy decisions
ahh well. it will be funny to see the fall out.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:48 AM
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31. You dod realize that the concept of the humble
non-aggressive politician who has little ego and whom the fates seek out to save the country is total bullshit. If a person had no ego or confidence they would not be in this business.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:01 AM
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32. He has so many Bush like Moments
I saw another thread calling Hillary arrogant,that she thought this nomination was enivitable.But Obama is seen as the total opposite when he has acted in such arrogant and hostile ways as if this is his and there is nothing gonna stop him from taking it.

It is so telling of his charatcer that when confronted he smiles,laughs and brushes it aside,the same way bush and his followers do when confronted.

I don't see how people think that will play out well in The WhiteHouse.It's his way or the Highway,that is clear.If you oppose him you're anti hope.

What's gonna happen when YOU his fans oppose something he does.Or has he got you so wrapped that he can do no wrong?Like bushies think of Bush?

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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:48 PM
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50. Obama is
running like Bush did. Claims to be an outsider, ready to "fix" Washington (if Obama is running as an "outsider", why is he a senator?) Obama is as much of an outsider as Kennedy. Running on "slogans" and stuff like "unity", "hope", "change", (compare to Bush's "compassion", "I'm a uniter" crap.) give it a break. Obama, as his supporters, can't tolerate any criticisms, arrogant and self-serving bunch (sound familiar). Major parallels here. Obama is the answer to the republicans prayers. Put Obama side by side with McCain (whose moderate); and the independents will flock over to him; put up "Reagan Democrats" and they too will flock to him; add on Hillary's base, and believe me, many will either sit this out, or vote McCain. Don't believe me, I don't care. That's the way many see this playing out. And in the end, it will Pres. McCain. The gap with McCain and Obama is closing big time; so for Obama, he will be in Hillary's shoes, fighting an uphill battle. The media loves McCain, just as they claim to love Obama right now. The tide will definitely turn.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:05 AM
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34. I have only one reply to your OP....
...:puke:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:13 AM
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35. Breaking: Hill supporters lack funny bone
:eyes:
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:19 AM
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36. Not just "pretty good" - DAMN GOOD! Kicking her butt - his confidence is very understandable. nt
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:26 AM
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38. He's making light of the whole speech issue. And where does he say he fooled people?
Clearly you heard what you wanted to hear. Pat yourself on the back and return to never-never land.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:28 AM
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39. Did you happen to notice the laughter and clapping from the crowd afterwards? That's how you know
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 11:28 AM by Occam Bandage
it was a joke.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:43 AM
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40. "Obama even admits he eats babies"

That's as true as the title of the OP.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:45 AM
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41. It was a joke, for fuck's sake.
Christ. Did all you Hillary people have your goddamn funny bones removed?
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mculator Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:48 AM
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42. k&r
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:49 AM
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43. Especially this one, that outlines his whole campaign:
Too bad it's from Dennis Kucinich.

CHANGE. HOPE. OPTIMISM. INTEGRITY. BULLSHIT.

Bear in mind, every time you see the word "(Response)" during this speech, what you hear from the WHOLE audience is "YES WE CAN!"


"We are the party of Lyndon Johnson and the Great Society. We are the party of John F. Kennedy and the New Frontier. We are the party of FDR and the New Deal. We are the party of the people. We are the party whose president faced a broken nation--a nation of people without jobs, without homes, without health care, without retirement security--and he exhorted our people to have courage. Seventy years ago, FDR stood before a fearful nation and said, We have nothing to fear but fear itself. And he ignited a nation to reaching its promise and that brought almost a hundred new Democrats into the House. It enabled a sweeping mandate to bring deep, transformational change to our social, our political, and our economic structures.

It remade a government of the people and for the people. That kind of change is needed today. We can empower a new beginning.

Democrats, I remind you that we have nothing to fear but fear itself. We need a new faith in America and in ourselves. Faith that we can change the present condition; faith that we can change the outcome; faith that we can regain the confidence, the optimism, the whole world has identified with America; faith that it is the Democratic party that can once again lead the way to a better day, to a better America, to a better world.

Democrats, Democrats can move this country forward from a condition where of 8 million people out of work to a full employment economy with a living wage for all. If you believe our party can do that, let us tell this nation yes we can. (scattered

response "Yes we can.").

...

Democrats can move this country forward from 40 million people without health insurance to a single payer system which provides quality health care for all. Do you believe we can do that? (Response).

Yes we can. Si se puede.

Democrats can move this country forward from underfunded schools, underpaid teachers, and undereducated youths to making education our top funding priority and providing free college education for all. Do you believe we can do that?

(Response).

Democrats can move this country forward from a condition where our air, our water and our land is now being ruined by multinational corporate interests; where we can demonstrate that environmental protection is our path to sustaining the life of the planet. Do you believe we can do this as a party? (Response).

Yes we can. Si se puede.



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http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/dnc0203/kucin022203spt.html
Rep.11:46 AM 2/22/2008 Dennis J. Kucinich
Democratic National Committee Winter Meeting
Washington, DC
February 22, 2003
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:51 AM
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45. So being optimistic about altering the course and future of this country
is bullshit?

Gotcha. Guess I'm a Hillary guy now. Where do I go to send money to Mark Penn's bank account--er, that is, her campaign?
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:22 PM
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49. His entire cmpaign is FAKE. So is he.
Glad that you have finally seen the light. Some people only have to be kicked in the face by the truth once, I suppose. Good on ya! Here you go:


https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/form.html?sc=2337
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:45 PM
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54. Wow, false accusations and blanket statements are fun, aren't they?
Goddamn you Hillary people here are all the same. You attack, attack, attack, then when Obama supporters defend their candidate you back off, act offended, and cry persecution.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:50 AM
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44. The entire audiance laughs..
Na.. that's called personabilty. It's stuff like that off the cuff that get people to like him - he was poking fun at himself, and at his "over-hype".

Even Hillary laughed.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:53 AM
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46. He was simply playing off the constant criticism of his "empty speechifying"
His message was "yes, I've given some good speeches, and no, good speeches and substance are not mutually exclusive"
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:54 AM
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47. Yep, we're just a bunch - okay millions and millions - of dim bulb
cult members. It's going to be like zombies taking over the world when he wins. Be afraid. Be very afraid.:rofl:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:57 PM
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51. Did you have your sense of humor surgically removed,
Or were you born without one to begin with.

Geez, it absolutely amazes me the petty bullshit some people try to pick up on, every little thing, and in many cases trying to make something out of nothing at all, like in this instance.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:58 PM
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52. Sounds like a joke, to me.
:shrug:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:52 PM
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55. As someone who finds his speaking style annoying, I cringe when he makes comments like that.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:53 PM
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56. You sound frustrated.
Very, very frustrated.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:54 PM
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57. It was a joke. Get that stick out your ass
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 04:54 PM by BrentTaylor
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:56 PM
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58. "some of them are pretty good" is confidence AND self-deprecation. He said "SOME"!
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:13 PM
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60. your post made me smile
nothing like the smell of desperation before i go to work.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:14 PM
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61. They are FANTASTIC speeches, calling them "pretty good" is clearly being humble
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