U of Texas Austin has endorsed Hillary Clinton!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

I guess she DID win the debate after all. Please read the following letter of endorsement.

Endorsement: Time to clean house

As voters, we're often torn between our hearts and our minds when
making crucial decisions concerning the welfare of the country. This
endorsement is no different.

In the past year, we have been entranced by the powerful timbre of
Barack Obama's voice. We have felt our hearts soar with each
progressive idea he has put forth, especially his call for youth
action and enrollment in public service programs. But we do not think
he is the wisest choice for president. George W. Bush has made a mess
of America, and we believe Hillary Clinton is the best person to
clean it up. She is prepared and willing to be a leader who is "a lot
less hat and a lot more cattle," as she stated during Thursday
night's debate.

Clinton is a seasoned politician, and some argue that works against
her. But Bush has been wildly successful in destroying every positive
function of the machine that is Washington, D.C., and Clinton has the
political tools and knowledge to fix it.

We have admired the consistent integrity of Obama's campaign. He is
everything a politician shouldn't be, meaning that we think he is a
good human being. To truly be a leader we can look up to, Clinton
should learn from her refined opponent's style.

But during Thursday's debate, Obama made a major gaffe in incorrectly
stating that he had received endorsements from every major newspaper
in Texas. We may not be considered a "major" paper to many, but we
represent a crucial constituency of close to 50,000 young and
enthusiastic voters, and we've been scrutinizing every move of the
candidates leading up to today's endorsement. Sure, Obama took many
under his spell when he graced our city with his presence early in
his campaign, but we think he prematurely considered his work in
Austin done.

We've taken into account our communication with each campaign as an
indication of how each candidate's government would function. Upon
finding out the debate would not be open to students, Obama's
campaign told us there was nothing they could do to get more students
into the debate, whereas the Clinton camp was sympathetic in offering
assistance. This makes us wonder how far Obama would go for us as
president.

The youth vote, especially here in Texas, is extremely important to
both candidates. As Texas, Austin and UT have all entered the
limelight as major players in the nomination process, we have been
confused by Obama's relative absence from the home of such an
important, excited and loyal constituency.

Clinton, while not as dazzling as her opponent, has asserted her
presence to us. She has pledged to restore government support to
college students by increasing the availability of Stafford Loans and
Pell Grants. Her outline for a universal health care system is
thorough and sound, while Obama unfairly exploits the resounding
term "universal" in terms of his plan, which is voluntary and
wouldn't actually serve America in its entirety (like Social
Security, policy can only be universal if it is mandatory).
Furthermore, Clinton's plans for Iraq ensure a gradual transition to
stability for the Middle East.

Clinton's abrasiveness, while somewhat off-putting, is essential in
scrubbing our country clean of the grime the current administration
has let build up. And by promising that the clean-up will begin in
full effect on day one of her presidency, she's proved to us over and
over again that she's ready, even excited, to get her hands dirty.
Meanwhile, Obama's curent focus is geared toward winning the
nomination, and we need more than hope and rhetoric to be reassured
that the critical transition to come with the next presidency will be
handled safely.

We live each day in anticipation of Democratic leadership for this
country. But considering the current state of America, now is not the
time for radical change.

We'd like to see Obama and Clinton work together in achieving the
many goals they share. Obama has our confident vote in four (or
eight) years' time. But for now, we can't risk trusting the judgment
of our hearts. Logically, Hillary Clinton should be the next
president of the United States. Under her leadership, we can return
to being the great country we once were.




http://mydd.com/story/2008/2/22/132753/909



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[blogslut]

1. link please

n/t

[rzemanfl]

2. How does a University endorse someone? n/t

[Inuca]

5. Misleading OP

It's the university newspaper. Universities, of course, do not endorse.

[texas_indy]

10. It's only the student run publication of UT. UT didn't endorse anyone.

[rzemanfl]

28. So a newspaper that they give out for free endorses Hillary

and I am supposed to be impressed? I thought maybe it was the Board of Regents or the faculty or something, it's Texas after all.

[Viking12]

3. Do you have to misrepsresent EVERYTHING?

I've never seen a post of your where you haven't horribly distorted the truth. Is supporting Hillary so important to you that you'll shed every stitch of integrity?

[adoraz]

4. seems almost like revenge for not including their paper

lol, good for Clinton anyways...

[WolverineDG]

6. I think you meant the Daily Texan

the daily newspaper of UT Austin.

dg

[John Q. Citizen]

7. What is the name of the student newspaper? Your headline is misleading. It makes it appear the

Univeristy endorsed Clinton.

Do you have a link?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

8. They lost me at Obama's "gaffe" of not considering their publication to be a major newspaper.

[Inuca]

11. Student newspapers seldom are :-) n/t

[blogslut]

13. The Burnt Orange report is sooo much yummier

:)

[Shakespeare]

19. BWAHAHA! I used to be an editor at the Battalion (rival A&M's daily student paper)....

...and it's amusing to see the daily texan STILL has an over-influated opinion of itself! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[lapfog_1]

24. Their nose is out of joint because

Obama said he had the endorsement of every major newspaper in Texas... and they obviously think that they are one of the MAJOR newspapers because 50,000 students attend the University.

Sorry. Someone needs to educate the editors of the student newspaper that they really AREN'T a major newspaper, probably aren't even a minor newspaper in Texas or any other state.

Oh well. I'm guessing that the student body has a different opinion.

[Hawkeye-X]

46. To be truthful...

They're the fishwrap of students that needs to find REAL fishwrap.

Onion ranks better than the student newspapers.

Hell, I don't even remember my alma mater's paper - but it is the Roadrunners as our mascot....

Hawkeye-X

[cali]

9. lol. The University paper is endorsing her, not the U

and sorry, nice as it is, it's not a major newspaper by any stretch of the imagination, and most of the kids will vote for Obama anyway.

[Skoods]

21. yeah..

because they're naive enough to vote for the next Jimmy Carter.

[cali]

27. I have no idea why they're voting for him

I can only speak for myself, and I'm hardly naive. Obama is intelligent, knows the constitution, has enough experience for my comfort, has exhibited good judgment, has enough policies that I find acceptable, demonstrates organizaion and leadership and is electable. And of course, YOU don't have a crystal ball, dear.

[Skoods]

41. ha

Yeah i'm actually a fan of both Obama and Clinton, just was in a bad mood.

BEAT McCAIN!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

12. So you won't dump on these young voters, right?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4566093#4567942

[Viking12]

17. Wow, nice catch.

OP is a fucking hypocrite

[Window]

18. LOL! Good find.

"...so young...Like lambs to a slaughter."

BUSTED!

Peace:thumbsup:

[speedoo]

20. Heh. Good one, SA.

We think alike!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

22. Hey!

Haven't seen you in awhile. :hi:

[MadBadger]

23. Linking to Me I see....The Endorsement is absoulutely ridiculous

They accuse him of ignoring Austin. He has a fuckin Rally their tonight. Seems like they are just pissed he doesnt consider the UT newspaper as a MAJOR paper.

[tammywammy]

31. He wasn't meaning to link to you

He meant to link to this
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4566093&mesg_id=4567942

It's in the same thread.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

35. Thanks -- my link showed his OP first, then jumps to the relevant post.

But yours goes straight there, which is better. :hi:

[jasmine621]

36. These are the things about BO supporters that do harm to their candidate.

Students are wonderful as long as they support Obama. They are insignificant if they support Hillary.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

39. How do you miss the point entirely like this?

I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the OP bragging about a student-run newspaper endorsing Hillary when this same person mocked college-student Obama supporters as being ignorant of politics.

[tammywammy]

40. Right, because it was an Obama supporter that said

"like lambs to the slaughter" in reference to young voters.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4566093&mesg_id=4567942


Wait, that was a vocal Hillary supporter. :eyes:

[Danger Mouse]

49. Actually, SA was pointing out the OP's hypocrisy.

[Window]

14. If you guess she DID win the debate last night,

the you guessed wrong.

[MadBadger]

15. They talk about Obama's absence from Austin...Do they realize he's holding a rally their tonight?

[Danger Mouse]

48. that's because the rag responsible for this is acting purely out of spite...

and can't get their facts straight.

[Orangepeel]

16. Obama's "major gaffe"

"But during Thursday's debate, Obama made a major gaffe in incorrectly
stating that he had received endorsements from every major newspaper
in Texas."

:rofl:

At least they're honest about why they aren't endorsing him.

[WolverineDG]

26. Maybe Clinton got them extra tix

in exchange for the endorsement. I find this passage telling:

"Upon
finding out the debate would not be open to students, Obama's
campaign told us there was nothing they could do to get more students
into the debate, whereas the Clinton camp was sympathetic in offering
assistance. This makes us wonder how far Obama would go for us as
president."

Because my experience locally has been that the Obama camp is very open & approachable & the Clinton camp is not.

dg

[Blue_Roses]

25. You headline is misrepresenting the subject. You need to change it

to the U of A NEWSPAPER, THE DAILY TEXAN, not the university. A university does not endorse.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

67. opps too late

:toast:

[woolldog]

29. I think they're reasons for supporting Clinton

are pretty poor.

[bigtree]

30. watch folks tell us that the students' support doesn't matter

after bragging on the youth vote which has rallied around Obama

[Shakespeare]

32. No, what the OP is being called on is his/her misrepresentation of the endorsement.

And endorsement by the Daily Texan is ENTIRELY different than an endorsement by the University of Texas (a suggestion that's absurd on its face--state institutions do not endorse anybody, period).

All the OP had to do was be honest in the subject title and SAY it was the student newspaper. She (he?) is being responded to with derision for good reason.

[bigtree]

34. go nit pick someone else. I've never seen such sore winners in my life

Obama's in the lead. But, you wouldn't know that from reading the pettiness of his supporters.

[Shakespeare]

37. 1. I'm not an Obama supporter, and 2. I'm not nitpicking.

READ her subject line. It's misleading at best, deliberately so at worst. I hate that shit coming from EITHER side.

[Danger Mouse]

47. first of all, the OP is incredibly deceptive.

second of all, the endorsement itself is pure pettiness, a university newspaper is NOT a major newspaper, and to endorse clinton because obama didn't kiss their ass is just silly.

third of all, it's just the paper, not the entire university, that endorsed clinton.

[Bongo Prophet]

50. Young voters are good for dems. Period. Double standards are bad. Preiod.

The hypocrisy of the OP is that she dumps on a positive thread with pics from a Wisconsin Obama rally, dissing young supporters:

omg look at how young most in that crowd are...they haven't a clue about politicians or the game...

Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 12:14 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
so sad

dollars to dounuts most of them couldn't even tell you who the VP is.

like lambs to the slaughter.

And then, in this thread, she misleads readers into thinking the "university" has made an endorsement, when in actuality it was the UT student newspaper, "The Daily Texan"...which is run by students, probably the same age as those "lambs" she was dismissing earlier. Does the OP wonder whether these young people know who the vice president is? Does the OP think they are also lambs to slaughter?

Double standard, and dishonest.

I am glad that I am not blinded by hyperpartisan syndrome, the inability to see the obvious. It is pernicious on this board; and contagious, it seems.
Now, you come in and make a "prediction" that others will dismiss the youth, when it is in fact the opposite-- how does this show any mature judgment? how can you not miss the obvious irony?

Just pause to think before posting such tripe, so that we can return to some semblance of comity on this board. The battles are hurting dems, the generational insults on both sides are hurting us as well.

I hope you can reflect on this, rather than lash out at me for pointing it out. I have seen you "apologize" for your actions before, then go right back to it almost immediately. Is that an ingrained personality trait, one that you will pass to your children?
I certainly hope not.

You should be BIGGER than this, bigtree.

[JimGinPA]

33. Yeah, So Did Whatsamatta U.

:eyes:

[ORDem]

38. So, they're saying Obama lied because he didn't include their puny free paper

in the category of "major TX newspapers"?

ROTFLMAO :crazy: :eyes: :wow: :shrug: :rofl: :spray:

[LadyVT]

42. This is great! Thank you! "Hillary's abrasiveness is essential in scrubbing..."

[Danger Mouse]

43. that's SERIOUSLY misleading.

[knowledgeispwr]

44. Misleading

A school newspaper endorsing isn't the same thing as saying the school endorses someone. It's doubtful that the paper's editorial board polled the student body for the endorsement. When a city newspaper endorses a candidate, or a mayor, we do not say "City X has endorsed So-and-so."

Very misleading.

[jenmito]

45. "...now is not the time for radical change." So they see her as more Bush-like, I guess.

:shrug:

[rodeodance]

60. guessing does leading to foolish statements.

[loveangelc]

51. Oh well, he'll still win most of the student body =)

[knowledgeispwr]

54. I suppose they won't count then

:sarcasm:

[texas_indy]

52. Sounds like the UT student body and Austin don't agree with a student publication.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4722015

30,000 people at Obama rally in Austin?!

[aein]

53. I go to UT, the Daily Texan (student paper) is a joke.

[loveangelc]

61. thats what i thought. i'd imagine most of the students are for obama at UT.

If UT is anything liek the school I go to that isnt very far away, Hillary Clinton is not very popular...

[readmoreoften]

63. It's a "joke" with massive circulation at the largest campus in the US.

Yeah, I live here too. The Chronicle endorsed Obama, which carries more weight, but many people follow the Daily Texan, not to mention Alumni.

[Shakespeare]

66. Actually, they've fallen to no. 5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_United_States_universities_by_enrollment

Sorry; I'm an Aggie, and can't resist an opportunity to snark. ;-)

And as a former Batt editor, I'll also say they're getting a little carried away by being offended at the imagined "snub" by Obama. Yes, they're a big college daily, but they're still a college daily.

[izzybeans]

55. Of all the years I have learned and worked in a university none have ever...EVER endorsed

a candidate. My professional association has never endorsed a candidate. Ever.

Try again.

[rodeodance]

56. "Clinton has the political tools and knowledge to fix it" YES SHE DOES:-)

[Johnny__Motown]

57. A new broom sweeps clean.... ever hear that one? Time to clean house and not with an old broom

[Beausoir]

58. Faith in the youth vote. Not all of them are swooning!

[Danger Mouse]

62. I see...so now it's that young voters only count if they support Clinton.

:crazy:

[ErnestoG]

59. YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN

[avrdream]

64. I read that at mydd and was quite proud.

Well-reasoned endorsement without the usual talking points.

Representing 50,000 students. Hmmmmm.

[Umbram]

65. Can't wait to see who Starbucks, the United Nations, and the Denver Broncos endorse! nt.

[hmiyasato]

68. Hillary is right on healthcare

Healthcare reform needs to be mandatory to cover all citizens.
Just ask those who deal daily with people who struggle to make
ends meet.  I am a teacher in an inner city school in Hawaii
that has a 76% student population that receives free and
reduced lunch.  Often these families cannot even afford school
registration fees. How then would affordable insurance be any
kind of answer?  Seriously, would individuals buy insurance,
however affordable, over immediate daily needs?  Of course
not.  Food, shelter, and clothing would be paid first.
Essentially, “mandatory” healthcare is not an infringement of
our rights, but the most viable path to healthcare for all
Americans.  Ask those who actually know individuals who
struggle with our cost of living!