Who Is Styling Hillary's Clothes? ---pix--->>>

[Stephanie]

The suits are nice, but what is with those wicked stepmother collars? I've never seen anyone press their collars like that, have you? Anyone know who her stylist is?



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[demo dutch]

1. Why it is that people always pick on how women are dressed? How sexist!

[Alexander]

You're calling a woman sexist for discussing Hillary's clothes? That's rich.

[demo dutch]

40. Sure no-one picks on the males and their suits!. Who cares whether her suit

is one way or another, or whether her hair is .. whatever. I don't hear anything about Barack's haircut or whether his tie is the right color etc. It shouldn't matter period! Women are always scrutinized over their appearance

[Hieronymus]

49. Trust me, if any man showed up with a collar like that, people would pounce.

[demo dutch]

52. That's a stupid comment! The fact is women are judged primarily on their looks

[Stephanie]

54. and their manners...

[Beaverhausen]

55. and yours suck

[Stephanie]

58. lol!

:hi:

[hisownpetard]

98. Ever hear of Elvis?

[beachmom]

25. Ugh. Not sexism. The truth is women don't wear a uniform like men do.

The only variation they really can do are ties. But for women there are a lot of choices. I think Hillary has looked fabulous during this campaign .... except last night. I did not like that suit at all, and found the collar distracting. I kept looking at it, thinking LIE FLAT Collar! It did not look good on TV. Her suit from the previous debate was much better.

[TheDebbieDee]

70. Hillary wears high collars because, as with most women,

the skin on the neck is one of the most visible places where one shows one's age. The high collars hide the sagging, wrinkling skin on her neck.

It happens to everyone, it will happen to me someday, too.

It happens to men, but they don't seem to give a flying fig about it.

[GreenPartyVoter]

74. That was my first thought too.

[Reterr]

80. In fairness I have to say this isn't sexist so much as just cheap/shallow

It is further lowering of the (already pretty low standards) of political discourse in this country. In fairness as a Hillary supporter, I have to acknowledge that there is similar garbage about Barack out there...
Of course it has been going on for a long time and it will go on for a long time. Sadly, ultimately that is what will win or lose this election and probably others-whether the candidate wore the right
kind of suit or not.

[LoZoccolo]

2. She is Xeroxing the wicked stepmother's wardrobe. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. I don't care for those collars, either -- not because of the so-called

"wicked stepmother" look, but because they never seem to stand up evenly. I think she dresses pretty well -- definitely a whole lot better than Pickles...

[Yael]

19. Indeed. At least she isn't crafting outfits out of the curtains.

[dsc]

4. Of course we will hear a thousand and one excuses as to why this isn't sexist.

[Stephanie]

7. Well I'd like you to explain why it IS sexist.

Please do.

[dsc]

16. wicked stepmother? are you fucking kidding me?

Christ Jesus on a Shamrock, if one of the most enduring symbols of the evil woman isn't sexist that what on earth is?

[Stephanie]

20. Well that's why I think it's not a good look for her.

Gee, someone posted earlier that Obama speaks with his hands too much. We notice these things, and not always consciously.

[anigbrowl]

14. Perhaps you should look at the name of the OP for starters

I personally do not think all that much of her clothes. When in doubt, go simple.

[anamandujano]

26. Oh yeah, it's a girl. Great point. They're never sexist.

:eyes:

[MonkeyFunk]

47. Are you saying women can't be sexists?

Ann Coulter and Phyllis Schlafly will be happy to know that.

[anamandujano]

57. She sure was.

[goldcanyonaz]

5. They are meant to draw attention to her face.

[jillan]

6. Are you the fashion police?

I think she looked great last nite.

[Stephanie]

10. In fact I am!

And I hate what you're wearing. Take it off!

[Sarah Ibarruri]

8. What style do you prefer her to be wearing and why? nt

[Stephanie]

17. The collars just look odd.

Some of her suits have normal collars, but when she's hunting for bear (big speech, debate) she turns up in these odd starched collars. I don't think it's an accident. I'm wondering who's styling her, as I plainly stated.

[TomInTib]

9. Why do they do that? Who picks these designers?

Like that guy from Dallas who sold his grandmother's drapes to Pickles.

By the way, I think I am again heading in your direction in a few weeks.

[Stephanie]

22. Well hey there pal

I was wondering where you'd been. Look forward to seeing you! I guess things are going well then...

[MonkeyFunk]

Funny

I don't remember all the discussions about John Kerry's collars, or his wrinkles, or anything of the sort in 2004.

[beachmom]

34. Actually, this site really, really digs John Kerry's ties:

http://welovejohnkerry.com/

The truth is women get to vary their wardrobe more than men in politics, so I don't see the problem in discussing what Hillary wears. It is important to a lot of us. I always liked that Hillary would wear something colorful to contrast her from all the "Suits" when the debates had 8 or so people in them. I noticed when she one on one debated Obama, she switched to a dark suit. I honestly did not like her suit last night because of the distracting collar.

[Alexander]

62. Really? I heard about Kerry's Botox and hair more times than I care to remember.

Maybe you slept through most of 2004.

[Stephanie]

64. Don't forget Edwards' hair.

I'm sure the Clintons had nothing to do with that.

[MonkeyFunk]

73. Yes, I'm sure the Clintons did have nothing to do with it

the video of him primping his hair was from 2004. The haircut story was a story - it didn't need the Clinton's help.

God, you people imagine the Clintons in some underground lair, controlling everything. It's sick.

[MonkeyFunk]

75. I recall a handful of haters

who mentioned botox. Dont' remember anything about the hair, though.

Did you think it was appropriate then? Do you think this is appropriate?

[Reterr]

77. Apparently tit-for-tat rules the day monkeyfunk

:eyes:..

You called my candidate fat, so I will call your UGLY...neener..neener..neener...
Sheesh.....

[Drunken Irishman]

90. It was more about a handful of haters.

And what about everyone railing on McCain's looks? Or Fred Thompson's when he was in the race? And don't get me started on Mitt Romney...yikes.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

97. Kerry's "botox" was talked about for months.

Does "Lurch" ring a bell?

:shrug:

[terrya]

11. Mr. Blackwell, is that you?

Jesus. More snarky bitchiness. :eyes:

[BlackVelvet04]

12. Oh for God's sake.....

STOP IT WITH THE NIT PICKING OF HOW SHE LOOKS.

Grow up.

[jillan]

13. Who picked out Obama's tie? Not a good color for him.

:eyes:

[Yael]

15. The gold 1/4" herringbone necklace took me back.

That was all the rage in the late 80s, early 90s.

[Bucky]

29. Depending on which Star Trek show you watched.

Seriously, I was supportive of the idea of a woman becoming president right up until I read this discussion thread.

[Yael]

32. I saved up for almost a year to buy my 18" necklace and within a

week had a HUGE kink in it. :banghead:

[Cha]

39. Brawawawawawa.. n/t

[jlake]

18. Let's see some pics of you. I would love to nit pick you.

I think Hillary dresses wonderfully - I love her collars and unique look.

[Stephanie]

23. Her collars are unique, for sure.

[carlotta]

21. Could you send me a picture of yourself?

Maybe I could give you a few pointers.

[taught_me_patience]

24. I noticed her collar during the debate

I thought it was pretty steezy!

[Bucky]

27. Well, at least she isn't gesturing with her penis like Obama does!

I'm sure I read about that somewhere here in GDP earlier today.

As for Sen Clinton's wardrobe...


Star Trekky is not bad



Business suit



Business suit with a different blouse



You heard it here first, folks. It's.... Dresses-like-a-normal-person-gate!!

[terrya]

31. You know...sadly...that wouldn't surprise me one bit

The "gesturing with her penis" crap.

And since some people have decided to post these snotty comments about her looks and clothes...I think she looks fabulous. Smart and stylish. Very professional.

[babylonsister]

28. Maybe they're supposed to make her neck look longer? nt

[Stephanie]

33. Maybe

It's definitely her look for formal occasions. Does she have a particular designer? I'd peg her for Donna Karan.

[babylonsister]

35. Not a clue; I shop at Marshall's.

:hi: What do I know from designers?

[Cha]

46. I shop at Salvation

Army but I still notice what people wear and consider myself a fashion buff.

Clothes are a statement of ourselves and it can be artistic or a "what were we thinking?, day". And it obviously doesn't have to be expensive.

I didn't see the debate last night but I'm wondering if mark penn has a say in how hilary presents herself, satorially speaking?

[bigtree]

30. this from a constant critic of Clinton

bored?

[Stephanie]

36. Not really

I had a lot of xeroxing to do today.

[demo dutch]

41. Who cares whether her suit is one way or another, or whether her hair is ..

whatever. I don't hear anything about Barack's haircut or whether his tie is the right color etc. It shouldn't matter period! Women are always scrutinized over their appearance. It's sexist!

[Bucky]

38. To be a serious critic, one must actually hit the target once in a while

Clinton's not a hard target to hit. I don't think the OP is even really trying.

[Tresalisa]

37. I'm certainly no one to talk about anybody else's fashion sense,

as I don't have one, but I don't like the way those kinds of collars look. I want to walk up to her and smooth out the top ones so they're even. Maybe that's just my O/C behavior, or my ADD. Oh, look, a squirrel!

It looks like the candidates are sharing an inside joke, here! "Well, at least I didn't say mimeograph !"

[OhioChick]

42. Reminds me of Cruella De Ville. n/t

[EmilyAnne]

43. Meh...I actually like big collars.

[demo dutch]

44. Women are always scrutinized over their appearance. It shouldn't matter period!

[Beaverhausen]

45. another Obama supporter spreading unity and hope

Is this really important to you? This petty shit is not what we need.

[EmilyAnne]

60. I agree with you. This Obama supporter thinks that Hillary Clinton looks lovely, as usual.

She looks like a healthy, 61 year old woman. I can't stand seeing her hair, clothes, makeup and body being criticized. Its just mean spirited and petty.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

48. Hillary used to have nicer clothes

Hillary is a very attractive woman. The campaign clothes for 2008 do nothing for her. I'm afraid I didn't like the yellow jacket with the black trim!

[tilsammans]

50. Hey, I’m with you, Stephanie, although . . .

I completely ABHOR how women are judged primarily on their looks. (Don’t get me started. :grr: I'll rant on and on for days.)

However, it is what it is. And I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Hill is a beautiful woman, but those androgynous pantsuits? I’m certain they’re a turnoff to many.

[Stephanie]

51. I don't mind the pantsuits, I think that was a smart decision to stick with those.

But lately these odd collars - it's obviously some consultant's decision, but why do they think it flatters her?

[demo dutch]

53. It didn't bother me, I was more interested in content! So should you!

[OzarkDem]

56. She looks great!

Obama supporters are such morans.

[NMMNG]

59. Oh jesus, another sexist, ageist POS thread.

:puke:

[Stephanie]

61. Thank god I didn't mention her shoes!

What other names would you have thought to call me then?

[Quixote1818]

65. Everyone on DU likes to act like they are above these kinds of posts and yet they always get the

most responses. Also, people like to pile on if they see several other people have criticized the OP. I have co-workers who discuss things like this all the time yet there never seems to be any militant people calling them sexist and stupid. That only happens on the Net where people can hide behind their computers.

[NMMNG]

85. I didn't call you anything

I called the post sexist and ageist. And it was.

[Quixote1818]

63. Thats funny because I was thinking the same thing last night. I hate that collar. nt

[Arkansas Granny]

66. It's really a shame that we have the first serious woman candidate for

the Democratic nominee for President and we have threads in GD-P about the collars on her suits and her smooth skin. How shallow can we get?

[Stephanie]

69. I've posted many threads about her war vote, her finances, misguided policies

Her mismanaged campaign, her husband's mysterious benefactors, the list goes on, check my journal. I don't recall you commenting on those. I guess this is an interesting topic.

[beachmom]

71. We live in the era of television so it's visual. And Women are ... different than men.

There I said it. Women can do the same jobs as men but they are different, and one way they are different is they have more fashion options in a job like a politician. It's in our bloody DNA to want to talk about what women are wearing. There is nothing wrong with it. I mean, I can understand if male DUers are bored with this conversation but this faux feminist outrage is really over the top. It's a suit. It's a collar. It's Friday night. Why not?

[Stephanie]

93. She is paying many millions to her consultants.

No doubt they are telling her what to wear when she appears in a nationally televised prime time debate. I'd like to know who her stylist is. Simple question, really.

[maddiejoan]

67. I actually love her suits

and the collars.

They look great on her.

[Straight Shooter]

84. Thank you for saying that. I was beginning to think maybe I was an aberration.

I like the way she dresses, and I very much liked her suit last night.

I just wish the Nehru collar style would make a comeback. :D

[Tatiana]

68. Blue is not her color. The blue suits are awful. But Hillary ROCKED that black pantsuit.

Even with the weird collar, the contrast between the trim and black was very flattering, in my opinion.

[Redstone]

72. OMIGOD! It's the latest CONTROVERSY: Hillary's COLLARS!!!!

I couldn't make this stuff up. Even if I tried.

Redstone

[nomorewhopper]

76. SHE USED TO WEAR NORMAL COLLARS SEE MY PIC I THINK SHE LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER IN THEM

[Political Heretic]

89. that is messed up. n/t

[Beausoir]

78. Stephanie. You are great. Funny and talented and fun. Please don't do this.

Please stop this.

I really like you. You have given me many laughs on DU with your picture posts.

Please don't go down this road. I just hate this kind of stuff.

[Stephanie]

79. Look. This is not about her looks. It's about her weird collars.

Her suits are nice, her hair looks good, she did fine in the debate until she went for the silly Xerox line, but those collars are weird. So sue me.

[Reterr]

81. You are just trolling for replies right?

Not in general perhaps but at least with this post?
Looks that way from your replies in the thread. You knew this would stir shit up...Ha ha what fun...

[emilyg]

82. Are you obsessed with looks?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

83. Could You Possibly Be Any More Immature And Catty? Holy Cow.

Just when I thought I had seen the pettiest of the petty, in comes this thread. :wow:

[Stinky The Clown]

86. Lookit the way those lapels are pressed. Who wears lapels like that?

Give it a rest. There's lots of shit to go after HRC with.

Her collar style is petty fucking lame, dontcha think?

[Catherine Vincent]

87. For this catty post, you get the raised eyebrow!

Fitz would not be amused.



:)

[Stephanie]

91. Well see?

I think that collar is much nicer on her and less weird. :hi:

[Political Heretic]

88. I really liked the one she wore last night in the debates

The yellow trim (trim? - I no nothing about fashion) looked really good.

[Raejeanowl]

92. She Has A Long Neck

The "standing" collar softens it and puts her in better proportion than the collar style of the suit in #76 (before it was photo-shopped). It's tailored into the cut of the jacket and not a question of pressing it. I'd also guess that...picking this style and sticking to it gives her more opportunities to wear necklaces without worrying so much about necklace length.

A professional woman who has to travel light and make intelligent business wardrobe decisions picks a few styles and sticks to them.

[Seabiscuit]

94. "Wicked stepmother"??? Welcome to my "ignore" button.

Disgusting sexist POS.

[MoonRiver]

95. She looks great!

Also her smile is very sweet and beautiful! What a class act!! :)

[1awake]

96. I think her outfit's have been very nice.

So what if they have collars to them. She looks great.