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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:32 PM
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Poll (Vermont): Obama 60% Hillary 34% ... link
It's ARG, but the margin is so great one would assume the lead is very safe. Vermont is even more significant in that most of the superdelegates there have pledged to side with the winner of the primary. So Obama should get a nice delegate bump from Vermont.

http://burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080222/NEWS01/80222020/1009

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has a big lead over rival Hillary Clinton among likely voters in Vermont’s March 4 Democratic primary, according to a poll of 600 Vermonters conducted earlier this week by American Research Group.

The New Hampshire polling company also found that Republican presidential frontrunner John McCain has a dominating lead over his two remaining GOP opponents, Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee.

The poll numbers show Obama with 60 percent support among Democrats and independents planning to vote in the Democratic primary. Clinton had 34 percent and the remaining 6 percent was either undecided or favored someone else.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:35 PM
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1. 15 In A Row Maybe?
:applause:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:46 PM
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4. ARG has him losing by 12 in RI
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CalGator Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:53 PM
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6. RI doesn't count
:P
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:55 PM
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7. Exactly - a state has to actually be an island if it is going to call itself
Rhode Island and still count in elections.
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The Ghost Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:24 PM
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15. one of the islands in the State of Rhode Island ...
is called 'Rhode Island'
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dempartisan23 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:14 PM
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13. GOBAMA
WAHOO!!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:38 PM
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2. I've been saying for weeks that he'll beat her here
by 25+ points. My guess is this is accurate and it could even be worse for her. It's going to be a blow out. She is not liked in Vermont.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:56 PM
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8. ARG is still a joke. They have Obama taking 71 % of indies in VT, but yet he gets only 42% in RI
Now I realize that VT is different than RI, but Obama leads everywhere in Indies. I find it unbelievable that he is down by 8 in terms of Independents do Hillary's 50 percent at this stage of the race.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:06 PM
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9. I know ARG is a joke but
everyone here knows that Obama will win by a big margin. VPR had Clinton's sole SD here on today and she admitted that Clinton would lose big. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't win by at least 25 pts.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:10 PM
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11. I think he will win by 30 in VT, but I think they are completely wrong in RI
just like in Wisconsin, when they had him down 6, they will have a last minute correction, showing him up before the primary.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:14 PM
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14. I think you might be right
He might want to make a quick stop in RI, just the same.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:24 PM
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16. Oh yea, and I think he will.
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:38 PM
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3. Here's a link for the part about additional delegates
It's actually not superdelegates who will go to the winner, but the state will allocate additional delegates to the winner:

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080213/NEWS01/80213005/1009

Under party rules, the votes in the state’s Democratic primary March 4 will
directly decide the affiliation of 10 of the remaining 16 delegates. Those 10 delegates will in turn pick the final six delegates, according to the party delegate selection process rules.

Eric Davis, a Middlebury College political analyst, said he expects Obama to carry the state handily and could end up with between 17 and 20 of the party’s 23
delegates. He said that’s because party rules allow officials to apportion extra delegates to the candidate with the higher percentage of the vote.

“The delegation will over-represent whoever the winner is,” Davis said.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:52 PM
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5. Love to see that happen
and Eric Davis definitely knows his stuff. If he could pick up 17 of the state's 23 delegates or even more, that would be a nice little boost for him.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:10 PM
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10. Vermont has got to be one of
the coolest States in the whole Union..it's beauty, Dean, and all those progressives and now this!
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:12 PM
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12. Wow! Go Vermont! nt
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:05 AM
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17. Good news!
:kick:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:59 AM
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18. I thought that VT would be a good state for Obama
It was the only one which Dean won last time after getting out of the race.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:03 AM
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19. Well, of course Dean won his home state
but the reason that VT is a good state for Obama is because it's a very bad state for Clinton. We're the most anti-war state in the country and arguably the most progressive. She hasn't grown her support at all. In fact, it's off a few pts from the last time VT was polled, many months ago. And in 1992 Bill only got 17% here. Jerry Brown won it. In 1988, Jesse Jackson won it. This is not fertile ground for Hillary, though I remember one DUer who recently insisted it was. Shows what he knows about Vermont.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:03 AM
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20. It pretty much seems that as Obama's message gets out there his popularity continues to grow...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:04 AM
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21. He's been popular here for a while now
and he's raised more money here per capita than anywhere else.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:17 AM
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22. So, VT is about to not count? Join the coalition! nt
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