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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:32 PM
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What is the logic of participating in a public forum and putting others on "ignore."
It's apparent to me that many members after these primaries will have many other members on ignore.

This really doesn't make sense to me. If people are abusive then alert on them. The Mods will often act on your request.

You come here to talk. You should listen too.

If you can't take it. They why remain?


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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:34 PM
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1. Some people are out to cause trouble.
It's like your inbox: you get some good letters and some spam.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:57 PM
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14. I think many here have put others on ignore simply because they don't support their candidate. nt
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:34 PM
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2. There are two types I put on ignore. The first are racists. Why
would I want to read that crap? The second are people whose postings are so inane and pointless that they add nothing to the discussion at all. I consider it useless clutter.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:34 PM
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3. If they are obviously freepers here to drop a turd in the punch bowl... I ignore them...
...
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:37 PM
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6. I was gonna type out a big reply....but your turds in a punchbowl thing saved me the effort.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 10:38 PM by Beausoir
That's exactly what they are.

Turds in a punchbowl.

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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:02 PM
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18. Bingo, we have a winner.
Same here.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:36 PM
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4. Never used the Ignore before
this silly season.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:37 PM
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5. The only logic to it is that those who ignore are cowards. n/t
n/t
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:38 PM
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9. In what way?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:38 PM
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7. Because, as in all group settings, not everyone is worthy of reading or hearing.
Why bother reading frivilous, or hostile, or insubstantial people? Why read hostile people who sling slurs and insults non stop? Why get dragged into long, drawn out discussions with people who love to start blab fests?

IGNORE is a tool DU gives us, and repeatedly encourages us to use.

I can't read all posts here, so why even see the threads or posts of those I've determined I would never listen to for more than 15 seconds in real life? It's clutter, and it isn't missed. Any point they might make will be made many times by others who are more mentally and emotionally capable.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:38 PM
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8. I ignore KKK members in real life.
I ignore the equivalent haters or "extremists" here as well.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:41 PM
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10. i think it depends, i had one person ignore for self preservation reasons to be honest
no way could i not be a total &&$^#&@*#! to this poster so i out them ignore to avoid doing just that, call it poor impulse control on my part but it saved me a headache. They are no longer on ignore, i don't see them around but the person has not been t'sd.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:47 PM
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11. I use ignore for the same reason that I never watch FOX news.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:53 PM
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12. I use "Ignore" for the same reason I don't read RRRW sites
except when I'm doing research. I prefer not to taint my mind with the hateful filth they spew.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:58 PM
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15. i do not have any on ignore--but the hate is getting to me. maybe i will
visit that site you suggested to me tomorrow. i forgot about it today but just remembered when i saw your screenname.
later.

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:09 PM
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25. My list grows daily
We're trapped here between "Eff off, we don't need you anyway" and "How dare you not vote for Obama, you effing traitor!". Feel the love. :sarcasm:

And I'll see you there. :hi:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:17 AM
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57. This ignore thing is funny.
Somehow the idiots in this forum don't get under my skin like the idiots in Health (where all my ignores come from).
Maybe because I take it personally to hear people I know and love are attacked in ignorance.
Here, I just find the stupid ones highly entertaining to mock.
But then I obviously spend much less time here than you do.....:hi:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #15
32. I don't have anyone on ignore either, but I know
I'm ignored by many. It's their loss! :rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:13 AM
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38. indeed it is. :-)
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:54 PM
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13. I've Never Believe That Ignoring Anyone Is The Best Strategy
I may not answer them but I don't ignore them. In fact, I think that ignoring the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity et al., is what got us into this mess to begin with.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:59 PM
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16. Clearly there are freepers among us.
I used to frown at putting people on ignore. But no more.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:04 PM
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20. And btw, yes I realize they were always here.
But during this primary season, they are hard to alert on when they come in "pretending" to support a certain candidate. Before when all us Democrats got along, our enemy were Bush and republicans....they were very easy to scope out.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:01 PM
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17. Where is the logic in joining a political forum to be a sociopathic asshole?
Some people do. If others choose to ignore them, then admins must feel that's ok...thus, they provided the option.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:03 PM
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19. I have only one person on ignore. It's been that way for 5 years now.
There are some on DU I find quite offensive, but there are many others whom I respect. If I were to have someone on ignore, and someone I respect responds to that person, then I miss the point of the dialogue.

I might put someone on ignore, though, if they began harassing me or was acting a bit psychotic, like a recently tombstoned DU'er who was engaging in increasingly bizarre posts.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. wow 5 years? Are they still here?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:18 PM
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26. Yes. He's still here.
He just got on my nerves after a while. Threw a HUGE temper tantrum at those who didn't support his candidate. I was less tolerant then :)
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:05 PM
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21. I only use PM ignore.nt
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:06 PM
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22. I had zero people on ignore up until the Iowa Caucus.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 11:08 PM by Drunken Irishman
And then it went nuts. So I put the extreme offenders on ignore and kept the sane, reasonable posters off the list.

But it's a public forum, we have the ability to not only ignore any message we want, but to put a person on ignore. I don't read every message created on this site -- as I'm sure you do not, either -- and we don't need to when it comes to logically participating in a public forum. There are probably group forums on DU you do not visit, right? Well that's no different than picking and choosing what posts and what posters you want to read.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:09 PM
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24. Can only speak for myself
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 11:13 PM by yourguide
but I feel both candidates should be examined and we should be able to TALK about their flaws and differences. Many members on both sides have let it get really ugly, really quick, in the course of that discussion. I have 1 Obama supporter on ignore for being obnoxious, and 6 clinton supporters. My guess is someone supporting Clinton probably has the same ratio.

I am all for a discussion of differences but when some posters continually show a pattern of overreaction and insults then I think the ignore button is in order.

I hit ignore on those folks and have had a much more enjoyable time in the forum ever since.

Edited to add: oh how funny, I have the person who posted comment #15 on this thread on ignore LOL!


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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:29 PM
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27. Huge Morons end up there, for sure!
:hi:
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:29 PM
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28. I never used ignore until just recently.
I can't say I care for it much because I can see where this person posted--but I can't know what they said. Makes me nuts.

I will say, however, that with the level of stupidity of late I have made liberal use of the Hide Thread feature. That kept me from really going over the edge and getting into trouble. Something that is all too easy to forget on here is the fact that we are ALL political junkies or else we wouldn't BE here. You have to expect some differences of opinion in a place like this.

I figure that after the Primary is over everybody starts over again with a clean slate.



Laura
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:32 PM
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29. They're sissys?...Can give it out but can't take it. and take their ball and go home.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:34 PM
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30. Because someone doesn't enjoy watching the same person
spewing venom over and over they are a sissy for using ignore? Okie dokie.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:52 PM
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34. I repeat. They can give it out but they can't take it.
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:35 PM
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31. There's absolutely no reason to ever tolerate personal, verbal abuse
That's why.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:49 PM
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33. I ignore all DUers who say they won't vote for the nominee in the fall
I had not used the ignore function for 4 years, but I just decided last month that I was sick of hearing the whining from disgruntled people saying "If Hillary/Obama/Whoever is the nominee, I'm staying home in November or voting for Nader!" All such people go straight to my ignore list.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:54 PM
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35. I have exactly six people on ignore
All of them either spammers or spewers of hate, racism, and/or sexism. I feel no need to listen to them.

I've never put anyone on ignore simply because he or she supports a different candidate than I do.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:04 AM
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36. A ton of bad shit has gone down in GDP
ignore is a simple way to stay out of dogfights.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:05 AM
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37. blood pressure control
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:16 AM
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39. onehandle, you make damn sense, and it's kind of like
obama folks in here, and makes me wish to say to em, how do we have patience for people who claim they love America, but clearly can't stand Americans, especially us that support hrc?
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:06 AM
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53. But BenDavide, you said yourself "Obamites are all evil, Hillary people are all good"
whereas i see, most of both camps are good, but a few asses rile them up and many will act like asses too.

The difference between a community and a mob is a fine one.
It doesn't take much to force that transition.


Ironically, it is one famous Clinton supporter (some durrrty person) with that quote in her sigline.
"I love america. It's American's that I hate - and she has shown that consistently to be the case.

Sucks to be her, as she wrote to me once.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:32 AM
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40. It comes down to people who basically can't handle opposing viewpoints
By reading this site you have already self selected what you want to see, and then to go further and put people on ignore because you don't trust yourself to be able to skip over a post that is offensive or idiotic. Might as well just talk to a mirror.

Weak and cowardly.

Or just stay away from political discussions with anyone that doesn't see things your way.



My experience has been that these types of people have a very flimsy world view in the first place, they are frightened that their view may be questioned and they won't be able to logically defend a stance. It's fear that disguisees itself as anger.
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I Vote In Pittsburgh Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:37 AM
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41. I have an opposing viewpoint
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 12:41 AM by I Vote In Pittsburgh
and my viewpoint is that ignore helps save time and keep blood pressure low. I have a right to not see mindless drivel aimed at angering me.

Ignoring is different from "not trusting yourself to skip over posts that are idiotic or offensive." I can trust myself to do that, but still elect to not put that burden on myself.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:40 AM
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42. "Weak and cowardly." Complete and untter nonsense.
Anyone that I have put on ignore has been abusive in their conversations, or ascribed aspersions to me that frankly I don't think I need to put up with.

I will discuss opposing views until the cows come home, I just am not interested in doing so with someone who is nasty.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:46 AM
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43. It's not about opposing viewpoints.
It's about people who are incapable of expressing their opposing viewpoint without acting like a complete jackass.
I have no desire to have dealings with people like that.
I had one moron accuse me of coordinated callout attacks on his worthless ass.
I don't want to read the posts of someone like that, or have to deal with them. I don't come here to bicker with knuckledragging braindead idiots.
Thus, I have six, and only six, people on ignore at this point.
Weak and cowardly? Please. Way to insult the vast majority of DUer's while making your self-righteous point.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:48 AM
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44. Ignore is there for a reason, and encouraged with the mods...
because it cuts DOWN on nasty flamewars and makes their job easier.
Please don't piss on people who actually use a feature that makes DU a more productive place.
I'd rather put a complete irredeemable moron on ignore rather than :banghead: every time i have to read their vile garbage.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:53 AM
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45. I don't see the point of it, and I have a theory about those who use it a lot.
To wit: Those who want things that offend them expunged from the landscape probably demonstrate this tendency in a lot of other ways, too.

I suspect a correlation between use of the ignore function and support for "nanny state" positions such as wanting to outlaw smoking, pornography, private gun ownership, politically incorrect language, trans fats in food, etc.

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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:57 AM
Response to Reply #45
47. Wrong, the opposite is true for me
I just don't like reading the same type of garbage from the same jerk-offs on a daily basis, so I just get them out of there with the ignore feature. I try to avoid arguments as much as possible, unless it is something that really sets me off. The more combative types I ignore, the more enjoyable time I have reading DU. I am against this "nanny-state" that you speak of.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:41 AM
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61. Boy, that is way off, at least for me.
I have no "nanny state" tendencies that I know of, but I do have three pompous asses on Ignore so I won't have to be annoyed by them. There is no connection to my political views and it is nothing about "opposing viewpoints". They are jerks. I want them out of my life. I Ignore them. Problem?
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:54 AM
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46. I have no one on ignore.
Why deprive myself of such visceral entertainment from the shriveled cranial husks of some Hillary supporters?
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Obamaman2008 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:01 AM
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48. It is stupid to put people on Ignore. Unless,
they are attacking you personally. That doesn't make sense to listen to someone attacking the way you look or who you are. They don't know you other than online, which means they don't know you at all.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:15 AM
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49. I ignore theads.
I do it because some topics are either over the top flamebait or simply not of an interest to me. Flamebait being the worst as it tend to stay at the top more and knock down things which may be of interest to me.

If I think a poster is over the top troll material I add them to my buddy list. That way I can check back later and see if I was right and they're eating pizza, or if I was overly sensitive and owe the person an apology.

I've never ignored a poster for disagreeing with me. I did ignore a poster once briefly who was following me around and attempting to bait me. I only ignored them then because they were close to tempting me into losing my sweet nature and getting my own bum in trouble. After I'd regained my composure I took them off ignore and found them to be tombstoned. I was shocked I tell you. Shocked!



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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:22 AM
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50. Because wading through dozens of substanceless "your candidate sucks" threads
and hundreds of more posts of a similar variety, gets really fucking tiresome.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:48 AM
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51. This is why Obama supporters keep repeating their bullshit about Hillary over and over again.
They post stuff. It gets refuted up one side and down the other. But the Obama people never know. They live in a Bizarro World of their own creation.
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:09 AM
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55. Ironically, there's one Clinton supporter who has to quote posts just so her friends can see them.
Both sides, Perry.
You know it is true.

But you are showing progress - didn't even say Obamaite.
I am proud, you are maturing at this late age. ;)
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:30 AM
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60. I rest my case.
Obamite!
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:49 AM
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62. Okay, now you are just being funny.
how dare you. :)
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #62
63. What a relief. People rarely notice when I'm being funny.
But how dare you suggest I'm maturing?
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:14 PM
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64. Like wine, not vinegar.
;)
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:56 AM
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52. To make us fight amongst ourselves, and split the party, of course.
Some like to stir shit up.

Some like to talk only to people who agree with them.

Some like to spread rumors and lies.

Lotsa reasons, I guess.

I like to discuss a variety of things with intelligent progressives, but still spend time here, regardless. go figure.
the place used to be pretty nice, but the neighborhood has, admittedly, gone to shit lately.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:06 AM
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54. I haven't put anyone on ignore, I want to see what others are saying
Of course I then have the choice to ignore them at my discretion. I try to stay out of the fray but sometimes I can't resist, especially if I think there's need to debunked some of the lies I see here.


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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:10 AM
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56. I have some people on ignore.
But only ones that I consider to be the worst offenders. These are the ones who's threads to me seemed to be started with the sole purpose of baiting, mocking, ridiculing, goading, etc. It gets really tiresome after a while. I avoid toxic people like this in real life. Why would it be any different here? Whoever mentioned blood pressure is correct. The ignore feature helps with that. Reasonable discussions are one thing. I like those. But I have no desire to have to wade through a cesspool of flame bait threads or posters to get to those discussions. So I clear some of them out with the ignore feature. And the hide thread feature. Works for me.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:20 AM
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58. Because some of these @$$holes piss me off so bad
That it could get me in trouble
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:24 AM
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59. K & R - Ignore list is very much like hiding under a rock - nt
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