Republicans for Obama is a real group that actually likes Barack Obama

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They are not trying to game the election. Please stop spreading lies about them based on one post in their forums area made by one of their supporters. It would be like Republicans choosing a random thread in this forum and saying it represented the official position of Democratic Underground.

http://republicansforobama.org/?q=about

[ElsewheresDaughter]

1. you're hurting America...stop it

[hendo]

4. How is...

...voting for someone other than Hillary going to hurt America?

Or is it a bad thing that Obama has a chance to court voters in both parties.

[Ian_walker]

2. Me thinks the man doth Protest too much

Link to the thread discussing whether Repugs are pedestaling Obama

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4724653

[high density]

3. Do you like honesty or do you prefer bullshit?

Because this forum is like a bullshit factory.

[tyne]

7. If he doesn't

get votes from the other side, we DON'T win. It isn't a matter of, "oh, maybe we won't win"...it's WE DON'T WIN...period.

[high density]

10. This is the point people here seem to fail to figure out

Kerry got the Democrats in 2004. We obviously need more than that if we're going to win.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

12. fact Kerry did win....FACT Diebold in Ohio....FACT 5 Ohio election officials convicted & in JAIL

[mrreowwr_kittty]

14. Okay, so if he'd won Ohio it would have been an electoral, not popular win

We should have been whupping Bush by over 10 points! It should never have been close enough to steal, but was.

[depakid]

5. It seems that Democrats never learn

Your candidates are NOT going to get a significant number of Republican votes, no matter how much pandering to the right- and alienation of the base goes on.

This bullshit has come up in every election for the past 15 years, and every time it's tried- just like the "high road" deal, Democrats end up losing.

This year won't be any different once the fireworks start.

[high density]

9. Who's talking about Obama pandering to Republicans?

People are spreading lies in this forum about this group based on a forum post made on that website by one individual. If these Republicans like this platform as it is then I have no problem with their support of him. They are not a "vote for candidate X because (s)he's the weakest and we want McCain to win" group.

[elizm]

11. We won back Congress in 2006 with the help of Republican cross-over votes. nt

[SammyWinstonJack]

16. A lot of good that did us.

:shrug:

[cali]

20. Actually, it did do us considerable good

Start with chairmanships. If you don't think that's important, think again.

[ristruck]

18. You just might be surprised

As I have stated on here for some time I am a convert to a more progressive agenda. I am a home schooler and I have many friends who teach there children at home. Many of these folks pride themselves on thinking for themselves who have had a history of voting Republican. I have talked to many of these folks that are going to vote Democrat this cycle. They realize they were duped by the likes of Karl Rove, Bush, etc, and do understand that a political party does not define who they are and what they believe. They may not be as progressive as you would like but they are going to cross over.

IMHO I predict that there will be 4-6 percent of registered Republicans that will cross over if Obama is the nominee and that will create a Reagan like mandate for true change. We can only hope.

[melody]

19. Clinton got a lot of Republicans in both his elections

In fact, there was a website called republicansforclinton.

All you need do to figure out that some people are not simply rational in their candidate choices is look at some of the person
on the street interviews -- "Oh, I voted for Bush then but I'm voting for Clinton now" ... that kind of crap. There's no way
in the world a thinking, rational person (who hadn't gone through a substantial personal change) could go from a Bush voter
to a Clinton voter. Clearly, that's an unconscious person.

Hillary is getting a lot of knee-jerk voters, too. It's part of the election process.

[bunkerbuster1]

6. Well, I certainly know some likely-Republican voters who support Obama...

I don't think the idea that there is a small but important group of sane individuals who see merit in Obama's candidacy is all that far-fetched.

Sure the site might be a front, but why assume that it is? Looks legit enough to me.

[ginnyinWI]

13. I do, too.

It's not a crazy idea. We have to remember that the wing-nut branch of their party isn't representative of all of them. There are a lot of moderates who mainly want the best candidate for the good of the country. And they've lost confidence in their party. They still aren't ready to switch over and become Dems, but for this election they will vote Dem.

[bunkerbuster1]

23. And once they've cast their first vote for a dem, it becomes easier.

Maybe those deal-killer issues -- like, say, abortion rights or even a whiff of gun control or the possibility of higher taxes in exchange for improved services -- don't become deal killers any more for them.

That's how people come to see the light. It's not usually in one fell swoop.

[ristruck]

24. That was my experience

It was with great pleasure and pride that when I entered the polling station here in Illinois to ask for a Democratic ballet for the first time in my life. And no I DID NOT WHISPER!!!!

I almost voted for Kerry. In my gut I knew that was the right thing to do but I was still coming out of my right wing coma. Now I am free of all of that and while I still regret my previous votes I am THRILLED to support the Democratic Party and am an enthusiastic supporter. I still hang onto my pro-life position but other than that I am a progressive all the way. It was a process for me as you state.

[ginnyinWI]

26. LOL--right-wing coma!

I love it. I know exactly how you feel. :rofl:

[bunkerbuster1]

27. Welcome to the Good Ship Rational. Glad to have you aboard.

We all have our issues to work out--I've always been left-leaning, but I was one of those imbeciles who thought that "regime change" in Iraq via invasion was a good thing.

I got better.

As for hanging to the pro-life position, that's cool. I think you're probably not going to be terribly hard to convince that the way to most efficiently reduce the number of abortions in this country is NOT to impose draconian criminal penalties on those who provide them. Am I right?

[ristruck]

29. There is no doubt

It is more of a hearts and minds issue.

[ginnyinWI]

25. yes, true

The younger conservative voters, especially, don't think abortion rights or gay marriage are as much of a big deal as other issues like poverty, jobs.

I was a Republican voter once. Then I voted for Bill Clinton--on the basis of personality, and I didn't like GHWB. That made it much easier to consider what Democrats stood for as a group.

[rug]

8. Nice logo.

[Imagevision]

15. It is a fact that a good chunk of republicans are voting Independent this year

[grahamhgreen]

17. As long as they are also for: Single Payer health-care, Out-of Iraq Now, Out of NAFTA and WTO, etc..

then it's OK with me.

[Cameron27]

21. That site doesn't mention

ideology, and I asked someone who was sporting one of those tags why he was supporting Obama. Twice. I never got an answer.

I still don't know why any RWer would vote for a Democrat when our two parties represent such divergent ideologies. I'd like to know which issues on Obama's platform they support, and why they're not concerned about a change in direction of the Supreme Court if a Democrat is elected.

What good is unity if we differ on what legislation should be passed into law?

[New Earth]

22. there were also Republicans for Kerry in 2004

and that apparently was NOT some kind of plot.

[bunkerbuster1]

28. I'd count Andrew Sullivan among the conservatives who came around for Kerry

The guy's a pain in the ass and wrong about a lot of things, but I was glad to have his endorsement for Kerry, however late in arrival it might have been.

[frakus6]

30. A majority of Republicans will never vote for Obama

What exactly makes Obama more appealing to repubs than say...Bill, Gore, or even Kerry?