The one thing I will not do is donate to Hillary.

[Seabiscuit]

I donated heavily to Howard Dean. He dropped out.

I donated heavily to John Edwards. He suspended.

I donated heavily to Francine Busby (who ran against Brian Bilbray for the 50th Congressional District). She lost.

It seems my donations are the kiss of death. So I'm not going to jinx Hillary's campaign with donations. I want her to win.

Otherwise, I would.

[C_U_L8R]

1. Especially when donations go towards room service at the Bellagio

i suspect ALL the campaigns have their excesses.
Perhaps Hillary should've stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

[JKaiser]

5. That's a nasty thing to say! Every little bit helps!

[devilindisguise]

9. Ouch!

I hate Holiday Inn, and I'm no Hillary. I hate all hotels and motels. I much prefer my modest home where I know things are clean and that the food is prepared hygienically. However, on the campaign trail folks have to sleep somewhere. I stayed in a motel recently overnight, and it felt like a bed of rocks. Ouch!

[Darth_Kitten]

24. No 6 figure Obama parties, huh?

:sarcasm:

[krabigirl]

69. lol, and where would you think Obama stays while on the road?

[JKaiser]

2. that doesn't make sense.. but whatever you believe in order to help Hillary.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. I Donated To JRE, HRC, And BHO

I wouldn't give a cent to Obama now...

[tyne]

4. That's okay

...about a million others have.

[SammyWinstonJack]

62. Unity!

:silly:

[cali]

7. Don't worry. He won't miss it.

He's on track to raise %50,000,000 this short little month, and he'll be putting it to good use to defeat Clinton in TX, OH, RI and VT.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. And He Won't Miss My Vote And Some Of My Friends Vote In The Fall Either

I have decided to leave that part of the ballot blank...Much to my dismay some of my friends are voting for McDaddy...That's a bridge too far for me...

Oh, Obama is falling behind McDaddy in the Rasmussen poll... I know it's only one poll and it is Rasmussen but if he's correct it's chilling:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that John McCain has gained ground against Democratic frontrunner Barack Obama. In a general election match-up, McCain now leads Obama 46% to 43%. He also leads Hillary Clinton 47% to 44%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Obama will never be riding higher than he is now and McDaddy will never be riding lower...Yeah, he's beating Hillary too but she's at her nadir...

[CTLawGuy]

14. then I'm going to miss you when he becomes the nom

or not. Have fun supporting McCain.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Reading Must Not Be Your Forte

I expressly said I will not be voting for either gentleman... And it seems McDaddy is doing fine without me...

[CTLawGuy]

32. If you don't support the Dem nominee,

you support the repub nominee. See Ralph Nader.

[Colobo]

42. Exactly. True Democrats will support the Dem nominee.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. Yes And No

If I voted for Nader , Gore would have been minus one vote and Bush* would have been minus one vote...If I would have voted for Bush*, god forbid, Bush* would have been plus one vote and Gore would have been absent one vote...

I live in FL and there's an anti-gay marriage amendment on the ballot that, of course, I will be voting against... Ironically, Senator Obama's use of the homophobic gospel singer, Donnie McClurkin in his quest to energize socially conservative African American voters makes ir more likely those people will turn out in FL to vote for him (and) the anti-gay marriage amendment...

Ironically,redux, that's how Bush* won Ohio and the election in 2004...Bush* won sixteen percent of the African American vote there; many of whom were brought out by the anti-gay marriage amendment there...

My opposition to Senator Obama is not born out of some personal pique but of substantive, heart felt differences...

This will be the first time in my life to not pull the Democratic lever... I haven't even voted (R) when it came to sheriff...

[Colobo]

46. There is still time. I hope you reconsider before November.

It's the future of America that is at stake.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. I Appreciate That And I Respect And Like You

That being said I am not egotistical enough to think my vote is that important and I feel very strongly now...

Perhaps I'll change my mind...I even liked Bush* on 9/12/01...

[XemaSab]

71. You don't think Obama would be VASTLY better than McCain for gays and women?

:shrug:


Overturning Roe v. Wade

John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench. Constitutional balance would be restored by the reversal of Roe v. Wade, returning the abortion question to the individual states. The difficult issue of abortion should not be decided by judicial fiat.

However, the reversal of Roe v. Wade represents only one step in the long path toward ending abortion. Once the question is returned to the states, the fight for life will be one of courage and compassion - the courage of a pregnant mother to bring her child into the world and the compassion of civil society to meet her needs and those of her newborn baby. The pro-life movement has done tremendous work in building and reinforcing the infrastructure of civil society by strengthening faith-based, community, and neighborhood organizations that provide critical services to pregnant mothers in need. This work must continue and government must find new ways to empower and strengthen these armies of compassion. These important groups can help build the consensus necessary to end abortion at the state level. As John McCain has publicly noted, "At its core, abortion is a human tragedy. To effect meaningful change, we must engage the debate at a human level."


Protecting Marriage

As president, John McCain would nominate judges who understand that the role of the Court is not to subvert the rights of the people by legislating from the bench. Critical to Constitutional balance is ensuring that, where state and local governments do act to preserve the traditional family, the Courts must not overstep their authority and thwart the Constitutional right of the people to decide this question.

The family represents the foundation of Western Civilization and civil society and John McCain believes the institution of marriage is a union between one man and one woman. It is only this definition that sufficiently recognizes the vital and unique role played by mothers and fathers in the raising of children, and the role of the family in shaping, stabilizing, and strengthening communities and our nation.

As with most issues vital to the preservation and health of civil society, the basic responsibility for preserving and strengthening the family should reside at the level of government closest to the people. In their wisdom, the Founding Fathers reserved for the States the authority and responsibility to protect and strengthen the vital institutions of our civil society. They did so to ensure that the voices of America's families could not be ignored by an indifferent national government or suffocated through filibusters and clever legislative maneuvering in Congress.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm

[cali]

19. That's up to you of course

personally, I find it utterly childish and petulant, as well as irresponsible, but go for that. I'm certainly not surprised that you don't give a shit about the SC or Iraq. You're much more interested in extreme partisanship. You're one of those people who'd love it if Obama lost to McCain just so you could crow "I told you so" and so your beloved Hillary could have a chance in 2012. That's pathetic.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. You're A Mind Reader But Not A Good One

When you vote for a candidate and he wins you empower his or her supporters and many of Obama's supporters frigthen me...There is nothing that he can say or do that his supporters wouldn't countenance...The twentieth century is replete with sorrowful experiences where personality centered movemements ran horribly amuck...

I have to balance that against the reality of a McCain administration and in good conscience I can't be party to foisting either tragedy on the American people... They deserved better...

[cali]

38. that's even more ridiculous

you're making irresponsible accusations with no foundation whatsoever. And the thinly veiled comparison to fascists and mass murderers in beneath contempt. truly vile. Obama has enough of a record and history for it be clear to anyone not totally consumed with hate, that he is not a fascist mass murderer in the making. Nor can YOU profess mind reading skills about his millions of supporters. And that's exactly what you do. I judge from your own bitter words. You're judging millions through the haze of bitterness and antipathy that swirls around you.

[Colobo]

45. It's bitterness. None of them saw Obama as a serious candidate.

They felt, like Hillary, that it was HER time, and to see a movement like Obama's candidacy change that makes them mad.

[cali]

50. It's still shameful to compare Obama to Hitler

or other mass murdering dictators, no matter how bitter one may be, and it's equally disgusting if it's done to Senator Clinton.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. Those Are The Inferences You Draw...

I have seen Obama supporters suggest Hillary should be purged from the party because she had the temerity to challenge Barack Obama... I think she declared her candidacy first but I'm not sure...

I have seen Obama supporters not offer a scintilla of criticism of him when he refused to disassociate himself from the homophobic gospel singer, Donnie McClurkin, in his gambit to energize socially conservative African American voters... This one frosts me...There's an anti-gay marriage amendment on the Florida ballot...Many of the socially conservative African American voters Obama will bring out will vote for that God awful amendment and for him...

I have seen Obama supporters not offer a scintilla of criticism when he refused to have his picture taken with Gavin Newsom because he had the temerity to marry folks who love each other but had the misfortune in this society of loving somebody of the same gender...They made the disingenuous suggestion that he didn't want to shake Newsom's hand because he cheated on his wife...Give me a break...I'm sure he has shaken the hand of an adulterer or two...

You can make all the ad hominem attacks on me that you want but my vote is my own and I would rather draw my last breath than engage in an act that violates my conscience, "To thine own self be true."

[cali]

58. please. don't try and obfuscate. it's too late for that now.

"There is nothing that he can say or do that his supporters wouldn't countenance...The twentieth century is replete with sorrowful experiences where personality centered movemements ran horribly amuck..."

You drew a direct parallel between Obama and the worst despots of the twentieth century. That's beyond the pale and literally insane.

And I can come up with plenty of examples of Hillary supporters who have made completely outrageous comments about Obama: He's a closet republican and should be shunned. Not to mention the lunacy of comparing him with Hitler and Jim Jones. Only I realize that this is the internet and not the real world.

You're making this election all about YOU. It. Is. Not. That's extreme egotism.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

63. I See You Have No Rebuttals For McClurkin, Calls For A Purge, And Newsom

Some folks matter to you and some folks don't...

Deal with it...


on edit- Here's more love from your cells:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4727158

[cali]

64. I don't condone what Obama did about McClurkin and I've

condemned it repeatedly. It's what kept me hesitating about him. I don't thnk Obama is perfect, far from it. I think that episode showed that he was willing to calculate for political expedience. So you are, of course, wrong about some people mattering to me and others not. I don't make such idiotic statements. I wouldn't for example, accuse you of not giving a shit about the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis that Hillary bears some responsibility for due to her act of political expedience. I'm not quite that low even when angry.

Now you can return to your comparing Obama to 20th century despots and his supporters to their blind followers. I won't sink into that kind of gutter. I understand that humans are fallible and make mistakes. And Obama and Clinton are human.

Carry on with your defaming.

[Big Blue Marble]

59. Strong writing Cali,

well said.

[rodeodance]

41. you are not alone in that-from what I have heard/read.

[aasleka]

36. What's your beef?

Mcain is a nut case, how much do you think him saying stay in Iraq for 100, 1000, 10,000 years will be played? Seriously once people realize John is crazy it'll be a landslide.

Won't that be a nice picture during the debates? Obama standinhg next to Mcain, he'll look even older and weaker spouting the, hold the line rhetoric while Obama echoes all those voices calling for change.

What I can't understand at this point is how someone could not vote for Obama? He has policy details, has inspiration, has great judgement, seems real and honest, questioned the Supreme Court nominee on why he didn't use his skills to help the weak instead of strengthen the powerful, let's face it as much as a skeptic and glass half empty guy I am Obama seems to be the guy who can draw us together and make it happen.

[cali]

39. the problem seems to

be that some people confuse Obama with Hitler or Mussolini.

[rodeodance]

44. no, it was an Obama supporter who did that the other day--conflated

HRC supporters with Hitler. yes it was.

Shameful--but there you have it.

[cali]

49. Yes, that's shameful

and so are the comments by the poster above linking Obama to Hitler and other mass murdering dictators. Only someone consumed by partisanship couldn't see that that's exactly what he's saying.

[rodeodance]

53. thank you. But are you referring to # 19--if so, I do not see her/him doing that.

[rodeodance]

40. so far I have seen a lot of him and supporting doing he exact opposite and this

divisiveness will not lead all HRC to the pools if he is the nominee.

just saying.

......I am Obama seems to be the guy who can draw us together and make it happen.

[emilyg]

54. I won't either.

[NC_Nurse]

6. I know how you feel. I donated to Dean too.

And Kerry
And Edwards
But I went ahead and donated to Obama anyway...if things work out the way you're thinking then you'll have me to thank
if Hillary wins. :P

[devilindisguise]

8. I would

But I can't afford to donate until the primaries are over to fight the reps. Not that it's going to help. I see a warmongering rep. president taking the oath in '09. Oh well.

[Midwestern Democrat]

18. I'm taking a wait and see attitude with regard to donations to the nominee.

I contributed to Edwards during the primaries, but as far as the general election goes - I'm going to wait until about May to see how the nominee is faring in polls against McCain - if McCain has a consistent, significant lead by then in a year like this, every dime I give is going to the Democratic Senatorial and Congressional Campaign Committees.

[devilindisguise]

23. Good Idea

Maybe I can do that also. Dems. haven't delivered the goods, like "impeachment", but I would still ratheer vote dem. than rep.

[rodeodance]

10. Thats fine--but hope you are able to be actively involved--phonebanks, boots

on the ground. ect ect.

I want her to win.

[devilindisguise]

20. I was never asked

To participate in doing anything for Hillary. Obama's camp did e-mail me, and they called. I think his campaign is much more organized. It does matter a lot when the candidate takes time to pay attention to contributors to past campaigns. Why Hillary's camp did not contact me is beyond my capacity to understand. Also, my husband who is a democrat was never contacted by Hillary's camp. I see she depended on too many other people instead of taking charge, and getting to democrats by e-mails, phone calls, letters - whatever it takes. It's not that hard for a democrat to get the registration list. Part of her failure to get votes, is her failure to recognize ordinary democrats who aren't highly active in the party but do vote, and do contribute. I did contribute $50 dollars to Bill Clinton's Aids initiative because they contacted me on his birthday. I'm really confused about all this. I know reps. are voting for Barack Obama, and that he will probably lose, but when I think of how badly Hillary's camp has treated supporters, I may go the other way, or possibly stay home.

[Seabiscuit]

27. I was contacted by both Hillary and Obama. Several times each.

Only because I'm a prior Dem contributor.

But by then my heart (and wallet) belonged to John Edwards.

[Kaylee]

48. I gave to Kerry and Wes Clark last go round....

only Barack Obama's campaign has contacted me for contribution of time or money. I was able to donate a few bucks and send the caller towards others I knew might be interested. I also received a write up of Obama prior the Potamac Primaries in my door.

I haven't received anything from the Clinton campaign. It's kinda weird.

[Seabiscuit]

30. Unfortunately, it's too late for that. The California primary is already over, and she won.

[rodeodance]

35. go to website--you can still do the phones. Check how you can do this from CA

[Seabiscuit]

57. I didn't know that. I'll check it out.

[Cameron27]

11. I wish you'd take the risk lol.

[democrattotheend]

12. That's how I felt about volunteering

Before 2007, everyone I had volunteered for lost. To this day, everyone I have actively supported has lost (in 2007, I went door to door for a few Virginia state senate candidates who won, but it was through Arlington Young Democrats and I was not really personally invested in any of the candidates. The only one I volunteered for directly lost).

I was a little bit afraid to get behind Obama for fear of jinxing him, but so far, he has won just about every state I made calls to, so I feel okay about volunteering. I'm probably going to Ohio next weekend to knock on doors, but I am a little nervous about it, because of the jinx factor.

[skipos]

15. Aw... you going to make Mark Penn cry! nt

[ericgtr]

16. Dunkin Doughnuts will be sad to lose your business

:)

[Seabiscuit]

21. OTOH:

I donated to Barbara Boxer and she won. Although she really didn't need it because she had it in the bag anyway, and won by a landslide.

So I don't count that one.

[Straight Shooter]

22. I donated to Dean (first candidate ever to get my $$)

I donated to Dodd. Oopsie. He dropped out.

I did not donate but talked a few others into donating for Edwards (I had no $$$ at the time).

I donated to Hillary, much more than to Dodd.

If you've got the $$$, please donate them. That way you'll have no $$$ left over when people start pressing you to donate if Barack is the nominee. :D

[Seabiscuit]

29. LOL!!!

[rodeodance]

47. love your logic---:-)

[Radical Activist]

26. How long did John Edwards dad work in the mill before he became management?

Why would someone imply their parents were poorer than they were? They paid for law school somehow.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

28. I'm going to double my donation today ....I know what you're feeling

[End Of The Road]

31. Seabiscuit, you may be our lucky charm?

Would you please make a large donation to McCain on our behalf?!

[Seabiscuit]

55. LMAO .. Now there's an idea! I'll sink his candidancy in an Arizona minute! nt

:rofl:

[greguganus]

33. If you believe that, please donate all you can to OBAMA! (but he will win) n/t

[dailykoff]

34. Evidently many others have reached that conclusion.

K/R

[DFW]

37. I gave a chunk to the DNC

I have always liked Howard at the helm.

I will also donate the legal max to the candidate, once chosen,
no matter who it is. The Texas primary is coming up soon, and I
still can't make up my mind. I'm fine with either one of them as
our nominee, and I think our nominee will be the next president.

McCain? McPresident, you mean. C'mon. I deserve a break today.............

[NoodleyAppendage]

56. She doesn't need your money. Her corporate overlords have given plenty. n/t

J

[BigDaddy44]

60. I wouldn't either

But my reasoning is a bit simpler. From what I've seen and read her campaign has zero ability to manage money. I can waste my own money well enough on my own thank you.......

[nonconformist]

61. My donations and support appears to be the kiss of death, too.

Since 2000, I've actively supported and donated to the campaigns of Al Gore, Howard Dean, John Kerry, John Edwards and now Hillary Clinton.

eeek.

Unfortunately for me, this also transcends politics. I'm a Detroit Lions fan, for cripes sake.

[Seabiscuit]

66. A Detroit Lions fan?

OUCH! That's gotta hurt almost as much as being a San Diego Chargers fan.

[Seabiscuit]

67. Dupe.

[NastyRiffraff]

65. I donated to Dean, Edwards, and Hillary

I WILL NOT donate to Obama, if he becomes the nominee. It wouldn't matter if I were filthy rich (which I certainly am not), he gets not a dime of my money. It wouldn't matter if he NEEDED the money, which he does not (but there may come a day when he will).

I WILL vote for him if he's the nominee, but very very reluctantly. It would be a vote against McCain, rather than a vote for the preacher.

[Seabiscuit]

68. Maybe I should donate $0.02 to Ralph Nader.

[MzShellG]

70. That's wise....

All of her donors are throwing their hard earned money away. The latest I've heard is that the $11,000 on pizza and $1,300 on donuts were her campaign's fault. Obviously they are squandering away her money right under her nose without her approval. Evidently, she is not accountable for how her donated funds are spent.