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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:05 PM
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GMAFB HILLARY!!! "Since when do Democrats attack each other?"
Fuck you.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:05 PM
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1. hypocrit
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:11 PM
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37. hilaryland is fucking smearing Obama
like she should have gone after bushit all those years..she's the fucked up hypocrite.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:19 PM
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39. zidzi, I am Calling Hillary a Hypocrit
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:26 PM
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40. Sorry, Mea Culpa! Fascisthunter!
:blush: I'm on a rampage to wipe her off the political map..I'm so disgusted with her.
I guess we agree, then~:P
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:07 PM
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41. no problem
rock on
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blocker Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:23 PM
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66. Poor victim Hillary!!
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 01:24 PM by blocker
does she really think that theres still some stupid uninformed that will belive her. Kinda pathetic actually!
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:39 PM
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50. check the facts...
then make up your mind...

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_mailings_...

a nice DUer posted this to my question earlier...

I know I've made up my mind.
and I'm in OHIO....

and I CAN"T WAIT to vote March 4th!!!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:06 PM
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2. such eloquence. good thing jesus obama never is critical of anybody else eh? nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:07 PM
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:37 PM
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48. F*** is there favorite word--and on a sunday am.
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JKaiser Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:07 PM
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4.  negative attacks are typical of most obama fans
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 02:07 PM by JKaiser
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:19 PM
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16. They Are A Nasty Bunch
Especially from behind their computers...


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:13 PM
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38. You're the Nasty hilaryland smearing gang..
who are hypocrites of the first fucking order.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:04 PM
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60. “Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairytale I’ve ever seen."
typical negative attacks...
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:09 PM
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5. Oh wow....Did she really say that?!
:crazy:
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:11 PM
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8. Yes she did.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:10 PM
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6. time to unleash hell on Hillary. Of couse, she may have shot herself in the foot
there is nothing in those ads that is untrue. She just singlehandedly thrust the NAFTA and mandated health care/garnishment issue to the forefront before the 3/4/08 election.

Not a smart move.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:12 PM
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The Obama camp already responded via email that the mailers were true. nt
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:13 PM
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10. "Not a smart move."
I think its called "taking the bait".

A dumb move borne out of desperation.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:11 PM
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7. Hey Hillary, "Change you can Xerox?" What about that?
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I Vote In Pittsburgh Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:12 PM
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9. Im dissapointed. I thought Hillary was going to change after that debate
She showed promise at the end. I believed that all this negativity was just political in nature, and she didn't personally have anything against Obama. I thought she had a good heart.

Guess I was wrong!! Same old politics.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:14 PM
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11. Oh but but...someone handed her some fliers at a campaign rally
It was totally spontaneous! :eyes:

It was hysterical listening to her say things like "it's time to stop having big rallies and making speeches!"

I've heard people compare her to Tracy Flick (from the movie Election) before. I can really see where they get that now.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:42 PM
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52. yes it was spontaneous. Glad you know your facts.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:48 PM
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56. It's also a month old issue.
Either her campaign is completely inept to not be on top of what the other candidate is doing and saying, or this outrage is feigned.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:05 PM
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61. Read the article from OHIO before you spout off again and look foolish.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:28 PM
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67. Foolish? You don't read much do you?
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 01:30 PM by casus belli
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/harry_louise_again.html

Notice the date?

If all you've got are Ad Hominem attacks, then take a hike. Next time do some research before YOU "spout off".
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:46 PM
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69. go to link-----in the thread I attached earlier--Here it is documented by real people
who recieved the O. flyers within last 1-2 weeks.



best,
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:51 PM
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70. That's fine.
I'm not disagreeing with the fact that some people have only received these flyers recently. But to state that Hillary was only recently aware that these flyers existed is silly. The flyers have been circulated for at least a month and have even been addressed by organizations like factcheck.org. There's no way she didn't know about them unless her campaign is inept; the other side of that is that she knew, but chose to wait until now to be outraged.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:00 PM
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71. reread the post again and it will adress your issue.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:43 PM
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53. Researched the Obama Ohio mailer and found that (there are the facts)
Go back to previous topic
Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Researched the Obama Ohio mailer and found that
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4738043#4738043
4738043, Researched the Obama Ohio mailer and found that
Posted by Tennessee Gal on Sat Feb-23-08 11:07 PM

Some Ohio residents received the first mailer on 2/13 and the second on 2/15.
http://www.ohiodailyblog.com/content/obama-mailer-slams-clinton-nafta
http://www.ohiodailyblog.com/content/second-obama-mailer-slams-clinton-health-care-plan

That is backed up by this: The mailers have been in circulation in Ohio for several days.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332089,00.html


The Clinton campaign had seen the mailers in other states, had already discredited them, and believed they were no longer being used. That is why Hillary used the word "continuing" in her statement today when someone in the crowd showed her that they were being sent out in Ohio.

"I have to express my deep disappointment that he is continuing to send false and discredited mailings with information that is not true to the voters of Ohio. He says one thing in speeches, and then he turns around and does this."

Obama talks all the time of the "politics of old", "the politics of destruction", and how he wants to rise above that and have "substantive" debate. If that is so, why is he continuing to send out these mailers. And if this race is already over as his supporters apparently believe, perhaps they should explain to people why Obama continues attacking Hillary with these mailers.

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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:52 PM
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58. I don't condone sexism towards her but HRC is proving ractionary and we had that for 7 year
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 12:53 PM by cooolandrew
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:15 PM
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12. and on health care, no less
when all she's done is lie about Obama's health care plan from the start. I've got no use for her.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:15 PM
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13. St. Obama is King of the passive aggressive attacks
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 02:16 PM by DemGa
St. Obama has been using right-wing created "negatives" against Hillary since day one -- This deception parallels the George Bush campaign.

p.s. I could never support this treachery.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:18 PM
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15. Did you know about the mailer that Hillary sent around just before
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 02:19 PM by tabatha
the NH primary.

See the story of why this lady changed from Clinton to Obama - because of a false mailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVuMYKs8iJs
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:22 PM
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17. It doesn't matter about mailers at this point
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 02:23 PM by DemGa
The fact is, Obama capitalized on the right-wing smear machine against Hillary from the start. That treachery will not be forgotten by many Dems.

Sorry, not trying to be rude. I'm afraid the buyer's remorse with this Barack-Sham will come too late.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:23 PM
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18. Thats different.
because Hillary did it. Nice logic huh? :eyes:
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:25 PM
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19. Look it's a campaign -- I have no idea about another mailer
I do know Barack aligned with the right-wing smears -- it worked, at least short term.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:33 PM
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25. What right-wing smears?
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:40 PM
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31. All of them
Barack Obama painted Hillary as "polarizing and divisive" because of the right-wing attacks she endured. He used the effects of those years of attacks for his gain -- a shameless deception.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:35 PM
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27. "right-wing smears"
Such a convenient way to brush off legitimate points. :eyes:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:31 PM
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23. No, hypocrisy.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 02:32 PM by tabatha
She said "Democrats do not attack other democrats".
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:33 PM
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47. Wrong Again
Hillary said, democrats don't attack other democrats on HEATHCARE! Big difference. Stop whining. It's true, Obama his smear machine have gone too far, they are not democrats. Obama and his supporters are in a league by themselves, go find yourselves another party to infiltrate.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:23 PM
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43. what you say has merit- it doesn't make it 'right' it does leave her out of being
able to criticize others who engage in her style of campaigning without being exposed for as a hypocrite.

She can't throw mud and then complain about people with dirty hands.


peace~
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:45 PM
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54. many obamafolk can not or refuse to recognize the passive-agressiveness of his campaign
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:16 PM
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14. Obama hasn't attacked Hillary??
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:29 PM
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21. Obama's campaign is about 'hope' and 'change'; Hillary's campaign is about Obama's campaign.
Because his message isn't driven by what Hillary does, Obama's "attacks" on Hillary have been brief, narrowly-focused counterattacks, such as in response to the "plagiarism" thing.

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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:06 PM
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34. LOL... best comment of the day... so true
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:40 PM
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32. Just where have you been hiding
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 02:42 PM by Demo5
BO along with dirty democrats like Teddy kennedy and the RW have smeared from day one. St.BO has a big hand in what is going one here.I have donated to Hillary and will do so again.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:30 PM
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72. I thought I'd never see..
A fellow democrat calling a democratic leader a "dirty democrat"...
low blow....

DOES the end justify the means?
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:26 PM
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20. Both candidates have attacked each other--that's called politics
And it's a good thing, in a way: each must withstand and overcome the attacks on them, whether valid attacks or not. Both must attack artfully (or not).

Yes, Democrats attack each other. They've always done it. It is being done on all sides now. I'm okay with it. The attacks stand or fail on their merit or on their skill even if not meritorious. What don't we get about this?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:33 PM
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24. I Thnk The Problem HRC Supporters Have Is That They Are Aware Of Her Flaws But Obama's Supporters
Are Impervious To His...

Neither are saints or virginal when it comes to playing political games but the disciples of one candidate think he is...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:40 PM
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51. She has her faults but I support Hillary because of her strong policies.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:29 PM
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22. Fuck it... I was debating whether or not to donate this month....
Fuck it... Obama is getting what little I have. Right now. After all of the Clinton mailers and dirty robocalls... she has the nerve to accuse him of using rove tactics. #%^%# ^$#^ @%@#% %%#^# $$@% @$#$@!!!!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:35 PM
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26. Since the Obama Campaign Circulated a Four Page Memo With Bogus Charges of Racism
If the shoes fit ...
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:37 PM
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28. That was an internal memo that Obama did not approve of,
and stopped.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. Plausible Deniability
Where have I heard that before?
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:26 PM
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45. Yep, "Plausible Deniability" also, "I instruct the jury to disregard the last statement."
'distance', some stay sparkling clean by design, and the jury still has to contend with it rummaging round in their heads. It's a courtroom ploy
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:59 PM
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33. Yet Not Before It Resulted in Countless Charges of Racism
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 03:00 PM by Crisco
Against the Clintons, just in time for the SC primary and immediately afterwards.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #33
63. and Obama sat by and allowed the toxic sewage to spill over. It was days before
he issued a statement saying Hillary's comments were not racial
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. Very true.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:08 PM
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35. What was bogus on the memo?
Oh yeah, nothing.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:39 PM
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49. According to their post it was "Bogus Charges of Racism"...
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:10 PM
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36. Ask Obama that question! (n/t)
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:15 PM
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42. pft, we've plenty of time on our hands to fuck each other...
over/under/sideways/down; backward/forward/square & round...nice swoop & poop hit blog :thumbsup:
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:24 PM
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44. Attack without posting the entire sentence. Quite disingenuous.
"Since when do Democrats attack one another on universal health care?"

That is the full sentence.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:27 PM
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46. Your OP Is A Deceitful Disgrace And You Should Be Ashamed Of Yourself.
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 12:27 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
For real. To cut off her quote and use it in different context, just to say fuck you to her, shows you to be an immature jackass.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:47 PM
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55. Hey! Some folks put this on the greatest page. I say we put all this nasty-ass shit out front...
so that even the most casual, lazy minded passers by can see just how vile & self-destructive democrats really are on the inside :shrug:
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:49 PM
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57. Hillary does McCain's dirty work
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:58 PM
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59. I guess you haven't been around much. Sleepy?
Wake up and pay attention. "Since when do Democrats attack each other?"
Do you ever read DU? If you did we're a perfect example of Dems attacking Dems with lies, distortions, exaggerations and full out Right Wing, Limpballs, Rove type attacks and talking points..going way back to the blue dress. :puke:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:09 PM
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62. such utter hypocracy!!---many Obama "Dems" have tossed Joe Wilson,
Shelia jackson Lee and other TRUE Democrats under the bus!!

Gawd---what a bunch of crap your OP is

"Since when do Democrats attack each other?"
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:14 PM
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64. And many of your side has tossed Keith Olbermann under the bus.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:20 PM
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65. Keith Olberman!?! I think Olberman does just fine but let's not get kooky...
He's been seen wearing lipstick & pink ties while delivering tirades against the BFEE like that's going to stop them...with all the millions of people they've had a hand in dispatching, the BFEE is a dour faced black tie affair only
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:40 PM
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68. I detest his lack of objectivity as of late. Still think he is one of the best
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #62
74. Not to mention ...
Ted Kennedy, see post #32
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:30 PM
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73. No, FUCK YOU!
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