As an Ohioan, I'm sickened to see Ted Strickland standing behind Hillary in Cincinnati...

[VolcanoJen]

... nodding his head fervently as she says "Shame on you, Barack Obama."

Heckuva job, Ted! Did you really need to be in that shot? Has it ever occurred to you that some of us who campaigned our asses off for you in 2006 might be supporters of Senator Obama? Couldn't you have taken a seat during that press avail?

God, it's embarrassing. :-(

[mrreowwr_kittty]

1. Is that who that was?

Bad move on his part. I hope his primary challenger in his next election uses it against him.

[AX10]

2. Good for him!

He knows who the real deal is, and it is not Obama.

[Ken Burch]

8. The candidate who never met a right-wing trade deal she didn't like

Can't be the real deal for workers.

If you backed NAFTA, you are permanently on the side of evil. HRC forfeited any right to ask workers to support her when she stood and cheered for that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. I Support Free Trade

If some small farmer in the Phillipines wants to sell me his bananas so he can buy his kid school supplies I think he should have that opportunity...

If that makes me evil than I will revel in my evilness...

[Ken Burch]

26. "Free trade" (globalization) isn't about some "small farmer in the Phillippines"

It has never been, and never can be, to the benefit of anyone but the rich. Globalization is based on imposing endless pressurs to cut wages, uses treaty structures to force sovereign countries to cut social benefits by falsely labeling them "industry subsidies", and forces the scrapping of environmental regulations.

There has to be a way to help the ordinary people of the planet exchange goods without doing the whole thing on corporate power's terms.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. I Am For Fair And Free Trade

I don't see how you can help the poor folks in the rest of the world by refusing to purchase their wares...

[Ken Burch]

45. It isn't about refusing to purchase the wares of the poor.

The poor have no power and gain no benefits under NAFTA, CAFTA, or any other free trade deal. It's the existing globalization regime that is the problem, a regime that is irredeemably biased towards what multinational corporations want.

There has to be a better way. We know that none of the 90's trade deals were for the people.

We need to redo the whole thing and run it from the bottom up. This requires scrapping the WTO and all the rest and creating a people's globalization.

[bvar22]

60. Like NAFTA helped the poor corn farmers in Mexico?

Oh wait....No it didn't.

NAFTA worked as designed.
Hundreds of thousands of small corn farmers in Mexico were bankrupted and driven off their land into destitution by NAFTA.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/07/31/MNGIVK8BHP1.DTL

If you want to buy bananas from the farmer in the Phillipines, you will have to fly there and buy them in person, because the farmer still can't sell them to you. He MUST sell them to a LARGE CORPORATION first, who then sells them to another LARGE Corporation for transportation and distribution.
The PRICE that the banana farmer gets is SET by the large Corporations.

NAFTA and all the Free Trade agreements were NEVER designed to help the poor farmer or worker in ANY country.

[Leopolds Ghost]

73. You can't even do that -- you wouldn't be able to get the banannas past customs.

So much for "open borders" and "free trade".

[earthlover]

50. Well, free trade is one thing...but NAFTA does not affect the Phillippines....

If you were talking about a Guatamalan banana, perhaps....

But the point is....Hillary was for NAFTA, si o no?

[Ken Burch]

53. No, NAFTA doesn't affect the Phillippines.

But the mindset that created NAFTA is the one that is going to create most of the "free trade" agreements we're going to be seeing. And since the other poster mentioned small farmers there, I had to speak to that. Those small farmers are never going to be the beneficiary of anything the globalization dealers are pushing on the streetcorners of political power.

[Ken Burch]

54. She was for it when being for it mattered. She claims she's against it now.

But is being against it now at all valid if you were for it then?

[OwnedByFerrets]

59. There is no such a thing as Free Trade....

go read Thom Hartmanns thoughts on free trade. http://www.thomhartmann.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=58&Itemid=123

[Leopolds Ghost]

71. You Have It Exactly Backwards, DSB... Congratulations

Free trade is about starving those poor Filipino farmers, causing them
to abandon their "oldest economy" subsistence farms and move to the city
and get "old economy" jobs that have been exported from these shores, thus
providing "labor market fluidity" which in turn justifies outsourcing by
increasing the number of jobless, decreasing the cost of food, so you have
a large number of poor but non-starving people willing to work for nothing
to basically manufacture US-bound products in exchange for cheap US grain
made by Monsanto or ADM, which is just about the only thing we export.

It is a triangle trade very similar to what the British Empire set up --
and the British Empire perfected the use of free trade to exploit cottage
industry around a global trading empire benefiting the wealthy few. They
got the idea from the Athenian Empire (which collapsed because of trade
inequalities and "exporting democracy" military adventures by Athens.)

[VenusRising]

3. Another DLC Dem backing Hillary.

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=254439&subid=116&kaid=104

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Like Arthur Davis, John Kerry, Ben Nelson, Jim Moran And Adam Smith Endorsing Obama

http://www.nndb.com/group/269/000093987/

And that's the tip of the iceberg...

Don't you folks research your own candidate...

[gaspee]

20. You've got it all wrong

If they support Obama, then they are the *good* DLC'ers. If they support Clinton, then they are evil.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. I See

Oh the governor of Kansas who endorsed Obama is DLC too:

http://www.dlc.org/

[VenusRising]

25. I know all about the DLC.

And I don't trust any of them. My candidate was Dennis Kucinich and then John Edwards, thank you very much. Each of my candidates were deemed unelectable by certain factions including the DLC. So, take the "you folks" and stick it, because you have no idea what you are talking about.

And considering Hillary is in the upper echelon of the DLC, I REALLY don't trust her.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. You Singled Out Hillary For Having DLC Support And Not Obama

They are both close to Third Way or DLC philosophy... The only difference is Hillary formerly joined...

If I am incorrect please show me a major issue where Hillary and Obama have a substantive difference...

[VenusRising]

38. There is a difference between support and membership.

The DLC constantly votes against the Democratic Party on big issues. When you look at the votes to see which Dems flipped, it's always the DLCers heading the line. It's not so much that Obama and Clinton differ on issues, it's the getting there that matters. And I don't think that being beholden to the likes of the DLC, who have consistently voted against the People's best interests is good for any candidate.

[theHandpuppet]

15. Nothing y'all can say will change my opinion of Strickland

This governor is doing more to lift the people of Appalachian Ohio out of misery, unemployment and poverty than any governor in decades. And SoS Brunner is cleaning up the mess Blackwell and his cohorts made out of Ohio's election process. Anyone who is willing to trash or throw out the Dem leadership in Ohio because he supports HRC is foolish.

[gaspee]

23. but... but... but...

He supports Hilary! Now he is evil!1!1!! He isn't entitled to his opinion because some of his voters may support St. Obama.

:sarcasm:

[LisaL]

He's been great. He is supporting the elderly.

[VenusRising]

30. I think he's been good for Ohio.

But I don't think he is doing the right thing backing Hillary. NAFTA killed too many jobs in Ohio and too many poor people are struggling far more than ever before.

I actually got an email from Progress Ohio regarding Strickland wanting to regulate the electric companies to stop price gouging.

[BeatleBoot]

4. Strickland Rocks!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

5. hey let's just hope that we won't be singing this same song again in 09/10

[AtomicKitten]

6. Better than having Lieberman constantly looming over your shoulder.

[Cha]

7. Please let him know if you can, Jen!

Wasn't Ted Strickland against the War On Iraq?

[VolcanoJen]

13. Yes. He once called the Iraq War "an unnecessary tragedy."

And now he's supporting the candidate who helped turn that unnecessary war into a tragedy.

It boggles the mind. And breaks the heart. :-(

[Cha]

41. And once again reinforces my theory

that when you become an hilary supporter she is contagious(and not in a good way).

[liberalnurse]

9. Too bad Jen....

Hillary will win.

[Johnny__Motown]

11. NOT, Hillary has lost and she is gonna drag down the party with her. Disgusting

[VolcanoJen]

12. liberalnurse, you know I love you...

... but I just don't see Hillary winning Ohio. Especially after today's meltdown.

[liberalnurse]

16. There was no meltdown.

I just say her in Dayton, 5 feet away! Terrific Rally! I saw the flyers too, I got both of them in my mail...I gave them to the campaign headquarters on Wilmington Ave...

She was adored in Dayton....

[VolcanoJen]

21. She was adored in Cincinnati, too

And when the crowd left, she went apeshit at the press conference. Lib, it was embarrassing. I love Hillary, I really do. But I am honestly ashamed. "Shame on you, Barack Obama." Was that necessary? Does she think that's going to help her???

[earthlover]

51. so much for her being honored to be on the same stage....

[geiger]

68. when all the while she knew this crap was going to be hitting within hours.

[cali]

17. god, some of you are really entrenched in denial and fantasy

she's behind. She just got blown out of the water in 10 straight contests. She's a mess. And the odds of her winning are slim. You should try and face the facts.

[SoFlaJet]

18. you are truly delusional

if you actually believe that-seek help

[VolcanoJen]

24. No. Liberalnurse is a passionate, loyal Democratic activist.

She's not delusional, and she doesn't need help. She's a lovely person who is passionately devoted to Hillary, that is all. And I'm 100% positive that she'll work her ass off for our nominee in the fall.

But yeh, Barack is going to win Ohio. :-) If I have anything to do with it!!

[liberalnurse]

31. Thank You doll.

I'm going to go to an Obama Rally too. I'm not stupid. O8)

[VolcanoJen]

40. Ha!

Your angel made me laugh! :-)

Hugs, lib!!! :hug:

[mod mom]

19. JEN, Here is some truth ammo to spread around on Clinton's lies on NAFTA:

Hillary Clinton Pretends She Never Praised NAFTA
Posted February 14, 2008 | 06:20 PM (EST)

-snip
The Huffington Post has followed along with a laugh-out-loud piece in which the chief architects of NAFTA (many who are now wealthy corporate lawyers and lobbyists) are now saying, no, no, Hillary Clinton was really opposed to it. These are the same people, of course, who are looking for jobs in the Hillary Clinton White House.

What a total joke, really. This campaign clearly thinks we are all just a bunch of fools.

Hillary Clinton has made statements unequivocally trumpeting NAFTA as the greatest thing since sliced bread. The Buffalo News reports that back in 1998, Clinton attended the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, and thanked praised corporations for mounting "a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of NAFTA." Yes, you read that right: She traveled to Davos to thank corporate interests for their campaign ramming NAFTA through Congress.

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton "touted the president's support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region."

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that "the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement."

-snip
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/hillary-clinton-pretends-_b_86747.html


Clinton promoted her husband's trade agenda for years, and friends say that she's a free-trader at heart. ``The simple fact is, nations with free-market systems do better,'' she said in a 1997 speech to the Corporate Council on Africa. ``Look around the globe: Those nations which have lowered trade barriers are prospering more than those that have not.''

Praise for Nafta

At the 1998 World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, she praised corporations for mounting ``a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of Nafta.'' She added: ``It is certainly clear that we have not by any means finished the job that has begun.''

Clinton ``is committed to free trade and to the growing role of the international economy,'' said Steven Rattner, a Clinton fundraiser and co-founder of Quadrangle Group LLC, a New York buyout firm. ``She would absolutely do the right thing as president.''

There was little evidence of a protectionist tilt to Clinton's trade views during either her 2000 campaign or first years in the Senate. She stressed issues such as homeland security and children's health care, and wasn't a major voice in trade-policy debates.

-snip
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=atUKcP4eSEvY&refer=politics

[HughBeaumont]

33. I don't get how Ohio can get behind a facilitator of free trade and job offshoring.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC01Df03.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/538674.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/593175.cms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs
Hillary pushes for more h1-b visas and outsourcing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNOSGM2jK4
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgdrh2Bc95M
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 2)

The whole of Ohio, especially Cuyahoga County, has been decimated by this unnecessary and one-sided business practice which has proven to be incorrect and damaging in theory AND action. Unless you're a well-monied Republican CEO, that is.

Read The Bad Samaritans. Even economists are blowing the lid off of this bad piece of business scammery once and for all.

[HughBeaumont]

22. Both Strickland and Brown support Hillary.

Ecch. I like both men, I understand that they're longtime friends with the Clintons, support who you want and all that, but IMNSHO, I think they slipped up here. I don't think it's going to win her the state, and I think it's too late for her anyways.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/HughBeaumont/32
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/HughBeaumont/33

[VolcanoJen]

28. I thought Sherrod was staying out of this thing?

:shrug:

[liberalnurse]

37. He has always been for Hillary....

he has not announce, just neutral for the press. They have been friends for many years.

[mod mom]

35. Sherrod Brown Did NOT endorse Hillary. (I just rechecked in case something new happened)

[HughBeaumont]

42. I had seen pictures with Sens Brown and Clinton together in the past on here.

Plus Connie Schultz wrote a pro-Hillary column a month ago. I just assumed they did support her, which would be strange coming from the author of The Myths of Free Trade. There'd be a conflict of interests there for sure.

[LadyVT]

32. He has good judgment

[workinclasszero]

36. Stand there like a fool shaking yer head

behind the woman that helped shove NAFTA down the throats of working class America.:puke:

Not very smart governor. Hope the Teamsters and other unions backing Obama pay you back later.:evilgrin:

[VolcanoJen]

39. Ummm, yes. The Teamsters will not be thrilled with Ted's performance today.

:grr:

[HughBeaumont]

44. I agree. Strickland's a good guy, but this endorsement blows.

Be considerate to your state's workers, many of whom lost their jobs to the bad trade deals her and the DLC support wholeheartedly.

[Cha]

55. Ted needs to be held accountable for

his political expediate endorsement that might turn out like other political expedient moves..not so hot.

[OHdem10]

43. As another Ohioan , I am proud to see Ted Strickland with Hilary

[VolcanoJen]

46. GACK there he is again, just agreeing with her

It's nauseating to see my Governor nodding his head while she attacks the likely Democratic nominee.

Damn, Ted. You're depressing the hell out of me today. Why are you standing behind her??? Are you just trying to piss us off or something? There is no earthly reason why Ted needed to be on that stage and in that shot!

[workinclasszero]

47. Just saw the rerun of Hillary's meltdown in Ohio

That was a shameful performance and proves she should get nowhere near the White House.

I guess the truth hurts eh Hillary?:shrug:

Man, what a temper!:scared:

[MadBadger]

48. He looked like a yes man

[OhioChick]

49. I Couldn't Agree With You More, Jen. n/t

[VolcanoJen]

57. Thanks, OhioChick!

Buckeye Babes Rule!! :-)

[OhioChick]

66. Sure Do!

;-)

[VenusRising]

52. Did you notice that Gov Strickland mouther the words

along with what Hillary was saying? That doesn't make it look like she was just handed the mailers. It really makes me believe that this was a tactical maneuver and that the Governor was in on it, and that makes me sad.

[VolcanoJen]

56. Yes. Each time I watch it, I cringe harder.

And so much more at his behavior, rather than hers. It doesn't make any sense to me why he felt he needed to even be on camera. What was his purpose?

[IndianaGreen]

58. It was a staged outrage, just as Hillary's tears are.

Hillary shares the same traits as Evita Peron. Evita could really show lots of emotion, but it was all for show and to manipulate her adoring fans.

[grantcart]

61. I don't know anything about him but he sure looked like a lonely guy up there.

[Tatiana]

62. Yeah. That was ouch-worthy. n/t

[boston bean]

63. God you should have seen the response when I wasn't to happy about Ted Kennedy supporting Obama.

[skooooo]

64. She definitely has lost Ohio.

[geiger]

65. noone but Strickland to be embarassed here, but I know what you mean

to go along with this latest tactic and to have also once been a minister and psychologist is pathetic. If he doesn't mind exchanging his principles or if he doesn't know better, then he's just plain stupid. Here's a message I've been trying to get out there, in response to two direct mail pieces I got today:

Here in northeastern Ohio, one direct from the HRC campaign--a piece decrying Obama's so-called position on NAFTA, when it was her husband's administration that pushed the bill through. And one from AFSME's "People" Committee, with pictures of soldiers at a war she helped authorize; one of a foreclosure sign, that she also bears responsibility, by supporting the bankruptcy bill and skirting
the overall mortgage crisis by paying lip service about doing something about so-called predatory lenders, when every Congress person should known darn well that every mortgage is written to protect the lender, not the borrower. The AFSME "People" Committee should know better, too, because most average Americans, I don't care if they do have a union job, are only one paycheck or catastrophic illness away from potential financial disaster and losing their house (it doesn't just happen to "poor" people) The third pix is one of an old lady sitting (assumedly) waiting for health care. (Oh, and Clinton real stood her ground to the pharmaceutical and health insurance lobbyists the time she had a chance, too, didn't she? :sarcasm: )

The final picture of juxtaposing a Bush thumbs' up in front of a Katrina disaster pix takes the cake. Lousiana's infrastructure had been in serious jeopardy decades before the hurricane hit. Someone hoodwinked the State into selling it as an environmental crisis and trying to market it to the country and Congress that way, so as to garner collective federal action. For no elected officials, especially especially perhaps from a neighboring state like Arkansas, to have pointed out the economic implications of a disaster there is just beyond irresponsible to me, it's deriliction of duty.

I am just sick to death of all of this. I am sorry I have ever felt sorry for HRC for her struggles in this campaign. She is just more of the same. What a damn shame. If she thinks she's smarter than the American people, though, she is more to be pitied then condemned. What a waste.

[workinclasszero]

67. He must be a reactionary DLC puppet

Hopefully this will kill his political career and a progressive dem can get a shot.

[JI7]

69. Strickland was hoping to be VP for her

he looked like a moron standing behind her nodding after her.

[farmbo]

70. Keep in mind VolJen...Bill Clinton came into Cleve. and raised big bucks...

... for Strickland before the Democratic primary was settled... then raised tonnes more in the general.

This is just a standard, everyday political horse-trading.

No worries.

[Barack_America]

72. Well, we're all learning an important lesson about supporting DLC candidates...

...That they look out for their own over the interests of the Democratic party.

A very important lesson indeed.

[ruggerson]

74. He doesn't have the same right as you to support whom he wishes?

[peace13]

75. Actually a friend who is a State employee in Ohio

is not allowed to campaign for Obama. She may wear a button but may not solicit for the campaign. How does Strickland get away with this. Mind you, I voted for Ted and was surprised by his bobble headed debut this weekend. Peace, KIm