Wow! Hillary is rocking it today. Calling out Obama on his lies and Republican like tactics

[jlake]

If she had been this forceful and direct from the beginning, she would already have the nomination sewn up.
Hill Yes! Yes She Can! Gomama!

For Hillary ~ For all of us ~ Let's Get Real!

[ProSense]

1. Did she mention the "Nazis"?

According to news reports, the Clinton campaign lashed out at the use of the mailer in a conference call with selected reporters, complaining that the mail piece bears a resemblance to the "Harry and Louise" TV spots of 1993 and 1994 (pictured here).

One person on the call emotionally said the Obama mail piece was "outrageous as having Nazis march through Skokie, Illinois." That outburst was quickly disavowed during the call by Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson, who said it is "not a comparison that (the campaign) would make." The unpaid health care adviser who made the remark, Len Nichols of the New America Foundation, later apologized. He sent an e-mail to reporters saying, "My passions overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate."

We agree that there is a resemblance between the photo on the Obama mailer and the TV spots. In those ads actors portraying a white, middle-class couple expressed grave concerns about how the Clinton administration's health care plan would affect them. The ads were part of a $17 million campaign by the insurance industry that was widely credited – rightly or wrongly – with contributing to the defeat of the Clinton plan, and the ads still anger many advocates of broader government efforts to provide health insurance. But so far as we can see, Obama's choice of images in his mailer has nothing whatever to do with the accuracy of the claims it makes, or the accuracy of what "Harry and Louise" said, for that matter.

link

Hmmm, "Nazis"? How right wing!

Obama spokesman Bill Burton responds by defending the mailings.

“Everything in those mailers is completely accurate, unlike the discredited attacks from Hillary Clinton’s negative campaign that have been rejected in South Carolina, Wisconsin, and across America. We look forward to having a debate this Tuesday on the facts, and the facts are that Senator Clinton was a supporter of NAFTA and the China permanent trade treaties until this campaign began. And she herself has said that under the Clinton health care plan, she would consider “going after the wages” of Americans who don't purchase health insurance, whether they can afford it or not."

link

[KhaOZ]

20. Do you expect any different from this campaign? They are a reflection of their "Queen Bee"

[grantcart]

35. just when I thought it might get close again they step up with the

shrill attack and remind everyone why we have to turn the page. Please turn the page I don't want to hear this crap anymore.

Cue Bill Clinton to say something completely stupid 5..4..2..1.. _______________________

Ah good back on track for more landslides.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

128. she's offending everyone she can - must be deliberately losing this thing

what else can it be?

[jlake]

135. Yeah, that't it.

[kid a]

2. Obama about to have a press conference to call Clinton out on her lying today

[jlake]

10. Well, he'll stammer and lie some more - and the MSM will eat it up.... they love

them a weak Democrat in the GE.

[kid a]

12. wow... nt

[kid a]

19. are you african american...is that your typical slang vernacular?

if not, your extreme racism is pathetic

[jlake]

23. WTF are you talking about? "racist" Are you truly that clueless?

[kid a]

26. if it walks like a duck, talks liek a duck....

yes - you are clueless

[jlake]

30. WTF are you saying was racist? It boggles my mind that you are all up in my

face with accusations that don't even make sense.

[MoonRiver]

95. Everything is "racist" if it is in disagreement with your Messiah.

Pathetic.

[Arkana]

98. Just like everything is "misogynist"

if it doesn't agree with yours?

[MoonRiver]

116. WTF? YOU are the one who idiotically and inappropriately played the race card.

I have never accused anybody or this board or Obama of sexism. :wtf:

[rodeodance]

132. you got that backwards---

[jgraz]

3. This kind of tin-ear politics is why Hillary has lost

She looks like a drooling nutcase. Is this REALLY the image you want "your girl" to go out on?

[redstate_democrat]

27. Hopeless like their "Queen Drone" uh "Bee"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ0swdRvYgw">Hillary Clinton: "Nafta has been good for New York and America."

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Trashing other Democrats is a sure-fire way to win elections.

:sarcasm:

Unfortunately, it also reeks of desperation.

[jlake]

11. Well, it has worked for Obama.

[kid a]

15. can you link to Obama trashing Democrats?

[jlake]

18. "petty partisan hollering at the Republicans"

[kid a]

24. is that a link?

[jlake]

28. Did you really need a link?

Here you go. Now wash your hands before dinner.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8593.html

[kid a]

37. thats an awesome article - but i still don't see your point

are you saying they both trash democrats?

this will be my last "kicking" of this racist rant of yours.

[jlake]

41. You are fucking nuts. Accusing everyone or racism isn't going to cut it in the GE.

Obama CLEARLY disdains Democrats and sides with the Republicans.

[mtnsnake]

72. I can't believe he/she accused you of that

That was a cheap shot of the lowest order, but I would expect nothing less of such arrogant losers as them.

[earthlover]

77. your post is not worthy of a reply!

[jackson_dem]

129. Sure

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4603886&mesg_id=4603886

[NashVegas]

5. It's So So Soooo Overdue

The truest shame of it is that it came down to Hillary, herself, to call the Obama campaign on this shit that's been going on for 6 weeks or more.

[tabatha]

yeah like this shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVuMYKs8iJs

[GumboYaYa]

6. Hillary is a piece of trash. She disgusts me.

[jlake]

14. Well, the devil cannot stand to be in the presence of good.

[redstate_democrat]

31. Gullible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ0swdRvYgw">Hillary Clinton: "Nafta has been good for New York and America."

[gaiilonfong]

7. I wish Hillary would had been doing this all along

It would have saved our Party from she and her megalomaniac husband all these months.
She would have ALREADY LOST

[AX10]

8. It's about time this tent huckster got something more...

than a free pass.
:thumbsup:

[bunnies]

9. I knew I should have voted for ONE post per day.

and whats up with all this mommy speak? Gomama? Disturbing.

edit: voted not voter

[Name removed]

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[Johnny__Motown]

16. Please Point Out One Lie And PROVE IT... just one please

[scheming daemons]

17. Watching Hillary today is FUN.... like watching the demolition of a landmark building.

...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

34. I think it's kind of sad.

I've always thought highly of her. She's smart, very well-informed, has everything going for her; but her campaign has been a disaster from almost the beginning. She never should have hired as a strategist a scumbag like Mark Penn, whose PR company was the mouthpiece for the Argentine military junta, Union Carbide after the Bhopal disaster, Philip Morris and Blackwater. He's Karl Rove without Rove's competence. And then there's hubby Bill, who couldn't keep his foot out of his mouth. She could have done so much better...

[PassingFair]

117. They think we DON'T KNOW about any of that.

They don't realize that the internets
series of tubes send out information
that we can access and impart to our
friends and acquaintances in our day
to day contacts.

She thought we wouldn't KNOW about her
IWR vote. Her previous bankruptcy votes.
Her support of NAFTA.

Their plan was just to push the brooms
in after the Bush's and start cleaning
up.

[Name removed]

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[madrchsod]

21. what lies and tactics?

they must be some lies and tactics cause you are so excited you forgot to tell us what she said....

[Binka]

42. Ah Fuck The Toddlers Haven't Had Their Nap

This shit is tiresome and somebody deserves to have a PIZZA.

[redstate_democrat]

22. CALLING OUT A LIE LIKE THIS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ0swdRvYgw">Hillary Clinton: "Nafta has been good for New York and America."

[rocktivity]

25. Yeah, like she's never lied or used a Republican-like tactic herself!

And less than 48 hours after shaking Obama's hand and saying she was honored to be in his prescene.

Three weeks ago, I said the Giants' chances of winning the Super Bowl "depends on which Eli Manning shows up." Which Hillary is this--the "claws ARE out" version?

:headbang:
rocknation

[VolcanoJen]

29. "Yes She Can." Did you get that off Barack's Xerox machine?

:shrug:

God I'm so confused. :-(

[jlake]

45. Well, he already stole it from about 4 places (Bob the Builder being the most embarrasing

place that a campaign has EVER gotten a slogan)
.... He hasn't had an original idea since day 1.

[earthlover]

100. So hillary stealing it is ok, but Obama is wrong to steal it.....are you sure that hillary didn't

steal it from the body builder?

You hillary herd members are so confusing at times.

In a few days many of you will be gone, I reckon.

[LadyVT]

32. Yes! I love it! "Shame on you, Barack Obama!"

[Binka]

52. Oh God You Again.

Must remember ignore. Miss Piled High And Deep. Academic Bullshitter.

[LadyVT]

57. Thank you. That's very gracious of you.

[Unbowed]

33. She's totally lost my respect after this.

I've never been a Hillary hater. But listening to her today, I was disgusted. Her desperation is showing and I now believe she will do anything to get elected, even split apart the Democratic Party.

This is a terrible day for Democrats.

[jlake]

36. Obama is the one who has put his own ambitions above the good of the party.

He will be crushed in the GE.

[AX10]

39. He is an upstart who wanted to be President...

even after promising not to run.

[madrchsod]

47. he did? when did he say that? you have a link?

[jlake]

89. Link:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/EDITORIAL01/752069338/1013/EDITORIAL&template=nextpage

[Tatiana]

108. You aren't seriously linking to the "Moonie Times" are you? n/t

[Tatiana]

55. How is he an "upstart?" What do you mean by that? n/t

[earthlover]

103. he is an uppity black boy upstart? is that what you mean?

would you call hillary an "upstart"?

[Madam Mossfern]

61. "upstart"?

Did you really say that?

[madrchsod]

46. he did?

so you are saying only choice we should have is hillary? last i noticed this was a democracy or did you forget what country you live in?

[jlake]

48. I seem to remember him promising to serve is term and not run.... dude's a fucking liar

HOMOPHOBAMA!!!!!

[Akoto]

51. So, let me get this straight ...

Your objection is that he changed his mind about taking advantage of a right every American has?

[jlake]

53. I don't think he changed his mind.

[madrchsod]

70. "dudes a fucking liar"

"you seem to remember"...now that`s an interesting reply. so you are saying you really don`t remember but you said it anyway? interesting

[jlake]

88. I remembered correctly. LINK:

Obama: "I promise to serve my full 6 year term"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/EDITORIAL01/752069338/1013/EDITORIAL&template=nextpage

[Tennessee Gal]

113. Yep.

Mr. Obama: "Absolutely."



Mr. Obama: "I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed."



Mr. Russert: "So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008? Mr. Obama: I will not."

[rodeodance]

131. he is an upstart--and has proven he will do anything to win. --low tactics whatever!

[Unbowed]

84. Why? Because he had the audacity to get more votes than Hillary Clilnton?

Sorry, but she totally crossed a line today.

[ecstatic]

38. There's a virus spreading like wildfire. Symptoms include rabid behavior

Researchers have dubbed it the P2BA virus.

[Occam Bandage]

40. I, also, am loving this. She's assuring Barack of both OH and TX.

[cottonseed]

43. Just how many "voices" does this woman have?

I mean really. Just 2 days ago she bowed out with the help of Bill and Edwards words. "We're going to be allright". And now she turns around and rips in to him this morning? Over a flyer that's been around for weeks? It's a terrible tactic too. The last state she actually won when voters got to see her was New Hampshire, and that was after the tear episode. Accusing the front runner of not being a democrat will not be helpful.

[OHdem10]

44. Obama is more interested in getting GOP votes and Independent

Votes than Democratic Party. Rovian--Win Baby Win. It does not
matter what Democrats think.

[madrchsod]

62. he is? well in america anyone can vote for anyone they want to.

or you would want a party purity test?

[jlake]

65. You do understand that there is a concerted effort to knock Hillary out of the race-

those GOPers won't be for Obama in November.

[madrchsod]

78. maybe the some republicans and others are fed up

with the direction of this country....they don`t have a choice to vote for who ever they want?

[jlake]

127. Some may be, but some are definitely sabotaging our GE chances.

[earthlover]

110. That's bunk! The GOP has been licking its chops at the thought of a /Hillary candidacy!

[jlake]

120. Why don't you scan GDP. There are some posts about it.... the GOP is definitely

trying to knock Hillary out in Texas because they know they can whup Obama in the GE.

[earthlover]

123. pollingreport.com shows every single poll with obama doing better than hillary against MCCain

Every single poll. Every. Single. Poll.

Yup, the Reps just can't wait for Obama.....

They have been salivating about Hillary for years. Mostly silent. But if she ever got the nomination, the swift boating would be extreeme.

[Carolina]

133. and good riddance to that shrill

finger in the wind, IWR voting, Bush-lite, thought she was entitled bitch who hired the likes of Penn and Wolfson.

[Radical Activist]

49. I still haven't heard what those lies are.

Maybe she isn't going into details for a reason.

[thevoiceofreason]

50. Death rattle of a dying campaign

Barack will face this again in late October. It is good to get used to it now.

[jlake]

56. President McCain thanks you for your support.

[madrchsod]

64. he`s the president? dam i missed the election....

[earthlover]

111. McCain...isn't that the friend of Hillary's that she won't criticise? That one?

[angie_love]

54. lol, desperation is not becoming of you

[jlake]

58. LOL Good one.

[angie_love]

79. thanks!

[Tennessee Gal]

59. I am very proud of Hillary today.

[Dawgs]

60. What lies? You keep posting this bullshit, but you provide zero evidence.

Why do you Hillary supporters keep embarrassing yourselves?

[jlake]

63. Um, if you watched Hillary you would know "what lies". It seems that everyone did since all of

the Obamabots are out in force ragging on her.

[madrchsod]

66. oh no the dreaded---Obamabots !

god save us all...opps, hillary save us from the destroyers!

[earthlover]

115. "ragging on her"....isn't that phrase mysogynistic?

[DemGa]

67. Yes, call out the Obama-Sham....nt

[jlake]

91. lol Yes!

[zulchzulu]

68. Hillary can cackle and be shrill all she wants. The game is over and she's going down

[jlake]

69. Winning does not equal competence and correctness. See Bush for exhibit A.

[Tennessee Gal]

80. Sadly, that point goes right over their heads.

[AX10]

86. Side note: you can't get more shrill and ....

and cackle worse than Claire McCatskill.

[loveangelc]

71. lolllllllllllll

[jlake]

74. must be loud

[loveangelc]

81. what....?

[jlake]

82. l o l lllllllll lots of "loud"

[loveangelc]

122. o...ok...........

[NJmaverick]

73. throwing rocks DOES NOT EQUAL rocking

What she is doing is destructive to the party, and beyond hypocritical.

[jlake]

75. Obama campaigns for my sins.

[NoBorders]

76. If Obama wins the nom, am I expected to be grascious to you?

Just wondering.

[whatchamacallit]

83. Wow! Jlake is rocking it today too!

Rocking it like Pat Boone's metal record...

[Nedsdag]

85. Those fliers she's complaining about went out weeks ago.

NOW she's getting upset about it?

Obama's right. This is all tactical.

[jlake]

90. The campaign has been angry since they were discovered....

but that's a good excuse. "Obama did something bad weeks ago. Why talk about it now"

[Nedsdag]

92. I didn't hear Obama blowing a gasket over the flyers sent out saying Obama is against abortion.

Did he?

No, he didn't.

"Your girl" is losing. She's pulling out all the stops AND IT'S NOT WORKING!

[jlake]

93. We are all going to lose. Obama is an egotistical narcisist.... eerily like Bush.

[bicentennial_baby]

118. She claims that today was the first time she saw them...

"someone" in the crowd handed them to her, supposedly. Hmmmm

[jlpohio69]

87. Just saw the video of Hillary from this morning

and I would hardly call it a meltdown or "going nuclear". The over-exaggeration of some people on DU is almost comical.

[Freida5]

94. Wow I just saw the replay of Hillary's comment. Way to go Hillary

BO attack on universal health care will destroy the possibility of its passage. His charges on NAFTA are wrong and Hillary was right to call attention to the "happy talk" and the sleezy campaign he is running.

[jlake]

97. Exactly. He is running a campaign right out or Rove's playbook...

getting DEMOCRATS to vote against universal healthcare...WOW!

[Arkana]

96. The hell with Hillary. Lies? Republican tactics?

Fucking Mark Penn keeps the Rove playbook on his bed table.

The hell with you, Hillary Clinton. You want to see Rovian tactics? Take a good fucking look at your own campaign.

[jlake]

101. Oh, I see. David Axlerod is such a nice guy!

Dude's creepier than Rove.

[Arkana]

104. Oh, I see. You can prove this how exactly?

At least Axelrod has never said that some states "don't matter", or that caucus states are being "undemocratic".

Face it. Your campaign is run by a ham-fisted cadre of morons who stubbornly cling to old-school campaigning in a desperate hope that it will still work.

[jlake]

106. LOL, I'll remember that when Obama loses 48 states in Nov.

[Arkana]

109. And now you're clairvoyant, too!

If Hillary gets the nomination, I'll be sure to remember that comment when she loses every state except New York--which she'll win 51-49.

[jlake]

112. Ha! Hillary would win over 300 electoral votes handily. Obama will get

[Alamom]

99. Just saw it. She was great. She was forceful. I didn't see a meltdown.

Get real is right.

[jlake]

102. Exactly. That's just wishful thinking from the Obama crowd.

[LadyVT]

105. Just saw the clip-- she did GREAT! Go, HIllary!

[Maribelle]

107. Absolutely!

:applause:

[jlake]

121. Go Hillary!

[alteredstate]

114. I'll play! Let's get real!

"Creating a free trade zone in North America—the largest free trade zone in the world—would expand U.S. exports, create jobs and ensure that our economy was reaping the benefits, not the burdens, of globalization. Although unpopular with labor unions, expanding trade opportunities was an important administration goal. The question was whether the White House could focus its energies on two legislative campaigns at once . I argued that we could and that postponing health care would further weaken its chances."

- Hillary Clinton

[jlake]

119. Obama voted to expand NAFTA. Dude's a con artist extraordinaire.

[AZBlue]

124. Have you seen this?

I thought she would never attack her opponent or spread lies? Isn't that what she said while she was "rocking it" today?



WHAT A LOAD OF BULLSHIT

[bleowheels]

125. Thank you Candidate Zig Zag!

Is this what direction your campaign is headed today? I know you were kind and concilliatory on Thursday. Her campaign is really getting tired. At least, I'm tired of it and I believe the American people are getting tired of it too.

[Political Heretic]

126. ...by using lies and republican like tactics (Fixed your subject line)

[jlake]

134. Um, no. That would be St. Obama.

[defendandprotect]

136. Now . . .this is a thread worthy of the "trash" nomination ---