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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:23 PM
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After her outburst today, expect to see a dirty Hillary in the debate on Tuesday
Just like we saw the dirty Hillary in South Carolina.

When will Hillary learn that this type of divisive politics is what people don't want to see anymore?

It hasn't worked for her all campaign and it won't work for her now.

Here's hoping for the same result in Texas and Ohio that we saw in South Carolina.

And hey Hillary, Can It with the fake outrage. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

You are a hypocrite to play the high road. Plain and simple.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:25 PM
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1. I look forward to it.
Obama's passive aggressive style of pretending he's not a slime merchant is wearing incredibly thin.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:27 PM
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6. He will handle her well.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:41 PM
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26. Yes, and the overuse of one word is wearing very thin...CHANGE
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:23 PM
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41. The over-use of the word experience is wearing even thinner!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:56 PM
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33. as long as she isn't telling people why they should vote for her,
they won't. Very sad. this is a no-win strategy.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:25 PM
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2. It's very sad, I once had great respect for her ... I wish I still could
I now am utterly uninterested in anything she has to say.

AFAIC, with the non-existent possibility of her getting the nom, she's doing the work of the GOP now.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:25 PM
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3. I think she is hoping to goad Obama into going negative
in the debate, and then play the victim card.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:26 PM
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4. Bring it on
I read an article about Obama that suggested he does not tend to get worked up easily, so I say let her get dirty and nasty and let him demonstrate his cool and rise above it. Make her look petty.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:27 PM
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5. Article: "Why doesn't negative campaigning work like it used to?"
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:29 PM
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7. Obama just needs to keep himself calm, Presidential and above it all.
Hillary's attack today did not seem Presidential at all.

I understand her argument but she went too far and her presentation won't help her.

She will attack him. He needs to respond in his calm, strong, Presidential way.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:31 PM
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11. Agreed... and that's why the presser will play so well...
...A shrill, screaming lady in a red dress


versus


...A calm, collected, and reasonable man looking like he's swatting a fly away.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:42 PM
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27. woose
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:29 PM
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8. Has she ever considered....
...that the frequent vacillation between "nice magnanimous Senator Clinton" and "spiteful bitter Hillary" gives rise to the perception that she's either disingenuous, unstable or too calculating/cynical by half?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:54 PM
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32. Seriously. I can't believe no one noticed that.
What happened to "I'm honored to be on stage with Senator Obama"?
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:30 PM
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9. I can't even stand her voice anymore NJS
she sounds like a jilted ex-wife-a pitiful display
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:31 PM
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12. Agreed
That was a pathetic display by her today. I still like Hillary, but I am losing respect for her daily.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:31 PM
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10. Trying to associate another Democrat with Rove,
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 04:32 PM by votesomemore
is beneath the laziness of those who bring Hitler into a conversation to score.
And it Stinks.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:27 PM
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44. It's the TRUTH -- Obama's attacks ARE Rovian
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 05:32 PM by DemGa
Obama-Sham has played the effects of the right-wing attacks against Hillary from the start -- That's very Rovian. Also very passive aggressive.

Obama is a Sham -- and extremely divisive.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:31 PM
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13. Certainly she didn't look very Presidential.
Obama is always so cool and unflappable.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:31 PM
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14. Texans will reject her message and her!
You wait until you see the numbers. They will be higher than in Wisconsin!
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:34 PM
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20. She sounds like a candidate
that has been reading inside-the campaign numbers that we don't have access to-that have her about to get humiliated in Texas and Ohio....I can not wait to see her "suspend" her campaign on Tueday night or Wednesday-it's-a-comin folks
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:41 PM
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25. According to politico, her numbers in Texas are like a falling star, they're falling fast.
People have really taken a good look at what she says and what she does - and realize they are not the same. Even though she was popular there 2 months ago, Hillary has taken too many positions on the issues to say "I'm consistant" on any of them.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:54 PM
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31. do you have a link?
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:32 PM
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15. Yup she will be rollin in the dirt and throwing mud at Obama
Gives Obama a chance to show his class and cool while Hillary melts down in a towering rage.

That should finish off her joke of a campaign for good!

GO FOR IT HILLARY!!:rofl:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:33 PM
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16. She's vulnerable on so many topics she would be smart to not start a pissin contest
If Obama's prepared properly (debate prep seems his weak spot) theres a 100 issues Clinton can be attacked on.

Everything from her sponsorship of the initial bankruptcy bill in the Senate, to any of Bill's policies that damaged the working class.

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:33 PM
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17. Her campaign is broke, she's just trying to get some free air time.
She is at the very end of her rope.



Peace:thumbsup:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:33 PM
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18. NO she will back down. . .
. . .she had numerous opportunities to attack him on Thursday and she didn't. She has no spine when it comes to face-to-face conflict with Obama.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:34 PM
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19. That explains why they changed Hillary's campaign song to "Ridin' Dirty"
It's ok, though, cuz she and Chamillionaire talk all the time! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n7ncJEFuSw
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:44 PM
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28. Someone needs to take this speech of Hillary that she gave today and set music to the background
From the Fine Young Cannibals.

"She drives me crazy, whoo hoo, she drives me crazy, whoo hoo."

And then put it up on Youtube.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:22 PM
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40. that would be a great song, too!
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:25 PM
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43. ROFL
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:39 PM
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21. A "Dirty Hillary"?
Is that anything like a dirty sanch... never-mind.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:40 PM
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23. Dirty as in engaging in dirty politics on Tuesday
Please, let's not spin this into something personal. :)
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:40 PM
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22. Good - maybe now we can get the truth out of Obama.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:41 PM
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24. Good ..I hope she sends him out in style...he's fluff!
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:52 PM
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29. Hillary's advisors don't realize this will definitely turn off male voters and intelligent women
who do not vote based on hillary having a vagina.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:59 PM
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35. Angel
she sounds like a bitter jilted ex-wife to this male
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:53 PM
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30. I'm sure Obama's gearing up for just that.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:57 PM
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34. If she wants to go down this road she is in big trouble. She has been pulling Rove tactics
frequently and I am sure Obama has a long list of everything she has done.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:15 PM
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39. Hillary Clinton has been synonomous with dirty politics this primary season
She has been the worst offender. And to think she thinks this will work is laughable.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:59 PM
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36. That's fine with me
Dirty Hillary isn't going to win TX or OH.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:02 PM
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37. Are you kidding
she is going to go even MORE negative under the guise of "I'm just defending myself from his negative attacks".

Dug her own grave.
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557188 Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:03 PM
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38. Obama needs to be attacked
If that is what you call playing dirty than GOOD.

That is what I want to see. People are upset because they aren't used to people attacking their messiah. Get used to it folks. The media will soon turn against Obama. The media created him and they shall destroy him.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:25 PM
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42. This Obama nastiness come from the top down....nt
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 05:25 PM by DemGa
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:30 PM
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45. Someone told her "She needs to come off as a fighter"
so they've come up with this idea.

Problem with it is, other than the fact that it won't work and it is a terrible strategy, it also levitates people back towards those feelings that are not positive regarding Hillary.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:36 PM
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48. Something got lost in translation.
Coming off as a fighter isn't such a bad thing for Hillary to try. It's a another new "voice" she can try on today. Like everything else in her campaign though, the execution was terrible.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:31 PM
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46. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
Either desperation, or more feaux outrage.


Either way, not wise.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:33 PM
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47. All it is is faux outrage
Designed to get more sympathy votes.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:38 PM
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49. Stop! Drop the mud, put up your hands, and walk away!
She'll be disarmed once again. Tuesday won't come soon enough for most people just wanting this national nightmare to end.
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