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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:31 PM
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Go Hillary! Stand up to Obama's distortions
Health care reform and jobs are far too important for this country and its citizens to distort for cheap political points.

Obama needs to come clean and admit his plan for health care and economic recovery are not as good as Clintons. If he wants to win support, he should come up with something better than the thin soup he now offers.

Lying about Clinton and issues important to our country's recovery is a dishonor to Obama, his campaign and his supporters.

Come clean Obama, or get out of the race.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:33 PM
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1. You forgot to to say "shame on you. " n/t
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:37 PM
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26. Shame on Hillary...She voted for the war. She had to know about PNAC and their plan...
...to go into Iraq and Iran pre-9-11. She should never be our president.


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BL611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:34 PM
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2. So he should get out of the race
or say that Hillary's positions are "right"?

Umm thats probably not going to happen....
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:34 PM
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3. Wow, what's that monkey poop doing sliding down the wall?
NGU.


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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:47 PM
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20. Spelling H o p e
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:50 PM
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21. Yeah, keep running against the concept of hope.
There's a winner for you.

:rofl:

NGU.


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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:52 PM
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22. Actually, it's the concept of shit disguised as hope.
(I would add a smiley for emphasis but I'm not an idiot.)
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:55 PM
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24. Even better. Have it made into a bumper sticker:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:08 PM
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25. C'mon!! Put your shit where your mouth is!!
Remember, solutions not speeches!!

:rofl:

NGU.


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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:34 PM
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4. Kick n /t
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:35 PM
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5. Why Are You Egging Her On?
Are you secretly hoping that she completely implodes? You guys should be pitching in for some therapy for her. I'll even chip in.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:37 PM
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6. She's an embarrassment.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:42 PM
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15. Don't bring Michelle Obama into this!
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:39 PM
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7. Absolutely agree with you!!!! n/t
He has no platform ..he's full of quotes, theories and wannabeees..
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:39 PM
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8. I just got back from her Dayton Rally which
followed the presser.

She shared the flyers with the crowd..........All were outraged! We chanted Shame on Obama!

I got 2 of those flyers in my mailbox yesterday. I was so pisst, took it over to the Clinton Office in Dayton. I was glad that this was shared with Hillary when she came into town! Apparently Cincinnati Democrats got a shit load of them in their mail and someone gave them directly to Hillary! I'm so glad. I was going to blog about it.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:43 PM
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11. Nanny nanny boo boo stick your head in doo doo!
Shame on Obama! Bwah ha ha ha ha. Hypocrites.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:45 PM
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18. I hope the news media made a point of pointing out Obama's slander
Because the NYT has already retracted the fact Hillary never said NAFTA was a "BOON". I also was thinking after the primaries if she loses she should file a suit for slander against Obama for this flier.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:41 PM
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9. Well, this is true:
"Creating a free trade zone in North America—the largest free trade zone in the world—would expand U.S. exports, create jobs and ensure that our economy was reaping the benefits, not the burdens, of globalization. Although unpopular with labor unions, expanding trade opportunities was an important administration goal. The question was whether the White House could focus its energies on two legislative campaigns at once . I argued that we could and that postponing health care would further weaken its chances."

- Hillary Clinton
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:43 PM
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10. The only person making "cheap political points"
is "your girl" and her last ditch effort to stay relevant for the Democratic nomination.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:44 PM
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12. Here Hillary lying:
According to news reports, the Clinton campaign lashed out at the use of the mailer in a conference call with selected reporters, complaining that the mail piece bears a resemblance to the "Harry and Louise" TV spots of 1993 and 1994 (pictured here).

One person on the call emotionally said the Obama mail piece was "outrageous as having Nazis march through Skokie, Illinois." That outburst was quickly disavowed during the call by Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson, who said it is "not a comparison that (the campaign) would make." The unpaid health care adviser who made the remark, Len Nichols of the New America Foundation, later apologized. He sent an e-mail to reporters saying, "My passions overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate."

We agree that there is a resemblance between the photo on the Obama mailer and the TV spots. In those ads actors portraying a white, middle-class couple expressed grave concerns about how the Clinton administration's health care plan would affect them. The ads were part of a $17 million campaign by the insurance industry that was widely credited – rightly or wrongly – with contributing to the defeat of the Clinton plan, and the ads still anger many advocates of broader government efforts to provide health insurance. But so far as we can see, Obama's choice of images in his mailer has nothing whatever to do with the accuracy of the claims it makes, or the accuracy of what "Harry and Louise" said, for that matter.

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Did she mention the "Nazis" comment?

They NYT just reported it a, but not clearly:

(Reporters from Newsday responded on its Web site last week, but stopped short of a correction. “The word was our characterization of how we best understood her position on NAFTA, based on a review of past stories and her public statements,” they wrote, adding that the Obama mailer made the word ‘boon” appear to be Mrs. Clinton’s statement. “Obama’s use of the citation in this way does strike us as misleading,” they wrote.)

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Here is what they said

The Democratic campaign has moved in earnest to Ohio, where times are tough and NAFTA has become a dirty word. In an effort to score points, Barack Obama has been dropping a mail-piece (left) that repeats a charge he has made several other times during the campaign -- that "Hillary Clinton believed NAFTA was 'a boon' to the economy."

This attack has attracted a flurry of attention, from Clinton's campaign and some reporters. As it turns out, the primary source is us. Back in Sept. 2006, an abbreviated chart printed on Newsday's Spin Cycle page compared Hillary with her Democratic US Senate primary challenger Jonathan Tasini on a variety of issues. The issues chart included this:

<...>

Obama's use of the citation in this way does strike us as misleading. The quote marks make it look as if Hillary said "boon," not us. It's an example of the kind of slim reeds campaigns use to try to win an office.

That said, we should have been clearer.

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:40 PM
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13. Yeah, Go Hillary. Dig that hole even deeper.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:42 PM
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16. That Karl Rove-tactic line may have worked had she not used Karl Rove tactics from day one.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:44 PM
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17. You got that right. nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:47 PM
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19. Go Hill! Keep torpedoing your candidacy with your
over the top act.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:54 PM
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23. K and R
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