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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:04 PM
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Standing the heck up for Sen. Clinton!!
Just watched the CNN video of Sen. Clinton, and I could not be more proud of her!

I am so happy that she is not sitting idly by and letting Obama and his minions get away with their tactics.

Watching Sen. Clinton today, I wanted to just stand up and clap for her....she was amazing.

Well done, Sen. Clinton.

It is about time that someone, anyone, held the Obama campaign accountable.

It is beyond time that they had their "accountability moment."
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:05 PM
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1. I hope they play that clip all day everyday until March 4th. n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:06 PM
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3. Yeah, me too. It will be a great campaign recruiter for Obama.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:06 PM
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4. Me too...but probably for a different reason than you. I want the voters to see the real Barack
Obama, and it's not pretty.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:11 PM
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10. But you do realize the clip showcases more about Clinton than Obama? n/t
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:08 PM
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8. Me too!!!
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 05:09 PM by BeatleBoot
I love watching Glass Jaw Obama get hit by a chick.


:rofl:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:13 PM
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12. It was more like a hallow threat a mom would dole out to their grown child.
God, she looked awful.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:16 PM
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14. Keep Playing It !
She looked incredible!!!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:16 PM
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15. .
:rofl:

You remind me of Hillary, so woefully out of touch.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:30 PM
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29. Does anyone know when Hillary first saw these flyers?
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:06 PM
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2. Damn straight!
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:07 PM
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5. She was just fine. Hope she keeps it up.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:08 PM
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6. Barack's going to have a bad 10 days.
All leading up to the extortion trial of Syrian born Antoin "Tony" Rezko on March 3rd.

I can feel it.







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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:08 PM
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7. I saw her still fuming when she got into Dayton, Ohio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3fa-T0v0sk

She was fighting for all of us! Shame on Obama!

As a nurse, I completely agree with her outrage and thank Senator Clinton for her passionate fight!

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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:10 PM
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9. That picture says it all. The Harry and Louise-style flier was absolutely despicable and I'm not
surprised the Obamabots don't understand why.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:12 PM
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11. What does it say? I haven't seen it.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:18 PM
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16. It's beyond despicable. It's the same tactics the Republicans and health care industry used against
her in 1993 during the health care debacle.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:19 PM
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20. chew on this for despicable
• A Clinton campaign flyer criticizing Obama's stance on abortion rights landed in New Hampshire mailboxes yesterday, accusing the Illinois senator of being "unwilling to take a stand on choice." On one side the flyer says, "a woman's right to choose . . .," with the backside displaying side-by-side comparisons of Clinton's and Obama's efforts to support abortion rights.

The mailer says Obama had seven opportunities in the Illinois state Senate to "stand up against Republican anti-choice legislation," but seven times he voted "present," instead of "yes" or "no."

"Being there is not enough to protect choice," the flyer says. In bold letters at the bottom it reads, "On January 8 you have a choice."

Obama campaign spokesman Reid Cherlin said the claim was false and already backfired once when Clinton tried to make it in Iowa. The campaign also provided a prepared statement from Lorna Barrett, the president of the Chicago chapter of the National Organization for Women. Brett called the mailer a "red herring."

"Barack Obama is and always has been there for the choice community. I know - I was there with him in the trenches," she said.

"This is offensive. I am pro-choice, pro-truth, pro-Hillary - in that order. And questioning the latter. I am very disgusted by this tactic being used by the Clinton campaign."

A story in the New York Times last month described Obama's "present" votes and quoted a spokeswoman for Illinois Planned Parenthood saying that the votes were actually part of a strategy to stymie anti-abortion legislation.

• Clinton also leveled some of her most pointed criticism of Obama on the campaign trail yesterday. At a stop yesterday morning at Merrimack Valley High School in Penacook, she told voters it was a mistake to support a health care plan that would not mandate health insurance for everybody.

"It's a mistake politically because it cedes to the Republicans the argument that we can't do this," she said. "I just totally reject that. Not only can we do it, we must do it. And it's wrong of us not to start out by trying to insure every single American. Because otherwise, we're going to start by leaving millions of people out."

• The American Federation of State, Municipal and County Employees, which has endorsed Clinton, has also blasted Obama's health care plan with several campaign mailers and radio ads in New Hampshire. Yesterday, Time's Mark Halperin posted on his blog a scathing letter written by AFSCME's executive board asking the union's president to stop the negative attacks against Obama.

Calling Obama "one of the great friends of our union," seven members of the group's International Executive Board said there was widespread agreement among board members to refrain from negative assaults against Clinton's rivals when the board voted to endorse her. The board members said they were "shocked and appalled" by the AFSCME campaign against Obama, which they said has been orchestrated by only two of the group's staffers with no input from its president, Gerald McEntee.

"It is also worth noting that the campaign that AFSCME is waging against Sen. Obama is fundamentally dishonest and inconsistent with past positions of our union, i.e. attacking him for not forcing individuals to purchase health care even if they can't afford it," the letter said. "The ads are a misleading in attempting to give the impression that they are associated with John Edwards rather than Hillary Clinton and in their claims that Sen. Obama's health care plan will exclude 15 million people when in fact every person will have the opportunity to participate."


:rofl: Clinton getting hammered by a union that endorsed HER. Clinton getting hammererd by her own NOW supporter.

Can you spell hypocrisy?


http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080106/NEWS01/801060396/1043
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:42 PM
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:53 PM
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40. hi, nursie. can't deal with facts too well, can you?
Why do you hate the facts, nursie?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:39 PM
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34. They understand alright....They want to cover their asses that's why
all the dumb denial claims.........Play stupid..or be belittling to all Hillary supporters in a condescending fashion.

Yea, we have to fight harder...........

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:14 PM
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13. Hypocrites all y'all
Really pathetic.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:18 PM
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17. i'll stand up for her - thanks hillary!
And Ill vote for her in Nov if she eeeeks it out.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:18 PM
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18. The trouble is that DUbamas are celebrating his lies and her reasction to his lies.
They've fallen in behind the Judas Goat, and will go where lead.
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:18 PM
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19. Absolutely! Go, Hillary!
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:19 PM
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21. I finally saw the clip on CNN
Wondering what all the outrage was about from Obama supporters. Calling her "shrill" "insane" etc. You know, the usual.

What I saw was someone who is justifiably angry about tactics that should be beneath a Democratic candidate. Pointing out legitimate differences in policy is fine, and expected. Outright lying, or in this case, the Rove tactic of taking the truth and twisting it is reprehensible. Hillary was right to point this out. She was right to be angry about it.

She was far from "shrill;" she was forceful, and yes, angry. She SHOULD be angry.

Some of Obama supporters' heads are exploding today because no one is supposed to criticize St. Barack at all, not even mildly. To be angry at him is...blasphemy. It's like getting angry at God.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:27 PM
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26. I just don't get the double standard here. It's ok for Hillary to use these tactics
but an outrage if Obama seems to be doing the same?

What has happened to reason and clarity?
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:37 PM
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33. It's do as hillary demands, not as hillary does.
She's just a whining * that is getting it right back at her for once. It's what she deserves for her constant negative and false attacks on Obama. Sucks being on the receiving end.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:28 PM
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27. That clip affected them here the way a crucifix affects vampires
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publicatlarge Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:29 PM
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28. Hillary is a fighter.
Go Hillary! She is telling the truth and is right to point out the Rovian tactics of the Obama campaign.

In the real world, age and experience should count for something. The sexist and ageist attacks on Hillary Clinton here reveal an ugly dimension of the Obama support group - as has been noted time and again.


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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:41 PM
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36. Hillary waving those brochures around reminded me of McCarthyism red-baiting.
This is a Sen. Joe McCarthy (McCarthyism) infamous tactic.
He was the Senator who started the whole red baiting in Congress to get some publicity for his campaign, and ended up a broken man, died of alcoholism.

Anyhow, he got off a plane in Wheeling, West Virginia, and strode up to a bank of microphones and journalists, and waved a batch of papers in his hand, and said "I have in my hands a list of 205 State Department employees who are card carrying members of the Communist party." Thus started the witch hunt hearings which destroyed the careers and lives of many innocent people and created the black lists in Hollywood.

I researched the McCarthy era for a master's thesis. One of the things I learned was that those pages did not have anyone's names on them, and he pulled that 205 number out of his ass. Whoever wrote that speech for Hillary Clinton pulled it out of the same orifice.

So Clinton's waving a fistful of papers and screaming about undermining the Democratic Party - but those brochures were out before the Texas debate, and others on DU have spoken to the truth of the contents of those brochures.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:46 PM
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38. I was at the following Clinton Rally
and she was clearly upset. I was 5 feet away from her! Her passion sincere. Ambassador Tony Hall and Governor Ted Strickland were there too. She will fight for all of us!

Everyone one was outraged! The crowd was nauseated by Obama's slime tactics. many acknowledged getting the flyers too!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:20 PM
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22. I agree.
:kick: & :thumbsup:
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:22 PM
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23. You know that those fliers went out weeks ago, and she said she was just handed them
So you are proud of someone who does her very best to lie directly to your face and to everyone else she possibly can.

Well good for you, I can only assume you loved the last 7 years and hope for 4 more.


She acted like a raving lunatic. Not presidential.

This is her "scream" moment and will be viewed as much worse than Dean's.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:23 PM
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24. I'm not surprised you feel this way
That screeching rant was the last gasp. Hopefully you're going to help her pay off all of her debts, which are huge, and date to last year.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:25 PM
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25. Did she ever find a camera to get mad at Bush the last 7yrs or couldn't she find
anything he did that would aggravate her as much as Democrats seem to lately?

Heck - she didn't even go after Bush and Rove when they concocted the Clintons trashed the White House story.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:36 PM
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32. True. She doesn't get mad at Bush, she votes for for his war.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:32 PM
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30. No matter what happens, she set a standard n/t
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:34 PM
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31. Indeed n/t
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:41 PM
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35. I love it when the Goddess of Peace kicks ass like that
It almost reminds me of the time when she had Rush Limbaugh in tears over those comments he made about Chelsea.

I saw Obama's little speech after Hillary handed his ass to him. You could tell he was all fucked up and couldn't even get his thoughts straight. lol
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carlotta Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:52 PM
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39. When a man (Obama) raises his voice....
People say "he's fired up!!!, he's rockin'". But when a woman (Hillary) does it "she's unhinged, she's gone over the edge, she's ranting and raving".

I've had it with this double standard, and it's even worse when it comes from women, and especially Democratic women...who should know better.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:16 PM
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42. Precisely my friend.... You hit the nail on the head. eom
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:54 PM
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41. K&R. Go Hillary!
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