Pictures of OBAMA's mailers... Proof Clinton is right.

[DUyellow]

tsk tsk tsk

[XemaSab]

1. Um... Obama has a 100% rating from NARAL and Planned Parenthood

:shrug:

[DUyellow]

2. I know, i am just showing clinton is full of it... Clinton Is this what dems do to each other?

[maddiejoan]

7. are the FACTS stated about Obama true?

why yes --they are.

[Renew Deal]

12. Nope, they're misleading.

And Planned Parenthood in IL is willing to back him up on it. So once again, Hillary's hypocrisy comes through.

[maddiejoan]

17. and Illinois NOW is not

so once again --so what?

[lapfog_1]

23. Illinois NOW was not involved in this in the least.

So what if they "aren't willing to back him up?" In fact, a former chairperson of Illinois NOW has made a video defending Barack on this point.

[maddiejoan]

29. she was from Chicago NOW

and to say Illinois NOW wasn't involved?

wow. just wow.

[lapfog_1]

35. According to PP and NARAL

it was their legislative deal.

But then I guess you would be happier if Obama had voted no and split with the Dems that were voting "present"... and given ammunition to the anti-choice idiots to go after others in the legislature.

Never mind. You won't ever agree on this. So just keep spewing your lies.

[maddiejoan]

41. Did ya know that

Steve Trombley CEO of Chicago PP was a longtime Obama supporter?

That's who Obama's campaign trotted out to defend Obama's record.

[democrattotheend]

49. No, they had a woman who had supported Clinton

but switched to Obama. From Chicago NOW. Does anyone have the video?

[maddiejoan]

50. and Bonnie Grabenhofer CURRENT

President of Illinois NOW doesn't agree with her or Steve Trombley of Chicago PP

[lapfog_1]

52. Both people I saw videos of, one from PP and one from NARAL

were women. Are they Obama supporters, probably. Does that mean they lied about asking for the present vote? I doubt it. I really have no idea. Could be a Vast Planned Parenthood Conspiracy to discredit Hillary... on wait, they are just deflecting a very unfair smear... well, still a VPPC.

[lapfog_1]

19. Except for the "unwilling to take a stand"

lie. Doesn't say that "present" is the same as "no" and doesn't say that NARAL and PP ASKED Obama (as has been attested to by leaders from both groups) to vote "present".

'Cause you wouldn't want this little hit job to lose any punch, would you?

Good for the goose, good for the gander.

[maddiejoan]

26. Present is not the same as no.

No is the same as No.

Yes is the same as Yes.

Present is the same as CYA.

[lapfog_1]

39. Just keep spewing the lies

and you haven't ever served in legislature have you?

Present and NO are the same (for Illinois).

Where was your girl at the recent FISA vote? Oh... she didn't show up (not present). Color me surprised.

[liberalnurse]

13. Your not really paying attention now are you?....

You have the wrong set of flyers. Can't you keep up?

[DUyellow]

45. pointing out the hypocrisy, keep up

[CountAllVotes]

3. the wheels just dropped of the wagon

sad isn't it?

[mod mom]

9. EXACTLY another Clinton lie. Why don't DUers research it for themselves if they don't

believe it. I did!

[mod mom]

22. Here's the proof Hillary lies:

www.prochoiceamerica.org | Elections | 2008 Presidential Candidate Choice Statements
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)

?Sen. Barack Obama submitted the following statement upon NARAL Pro-Choice America's request.

"A woman's ability to decide how many children to have and when, without interference from the government, is one of the most fundamental rights we possess.  It is not just an issue of choice, but equality and opportunity for all women.

"I have consistently advocated for reproductive choice and will make preserving women's rights under Roe v. Wade a priority as President.  I oppose any constitutional amendment to overturn the Supreme Court's ruling in this case.

"I believe we must work together to reduce the number of unintended pregnancies.  I support legislation to expand access to contraception, health information, and preventative services to help reduce unintended pregnancies.  That is why I co-sponsored the Prevention First Act of 2007, which will increase funding for family planning and comprehensive sex education that teaches both abstinence and safe sex methods.  It will also end insurance discrimination against contraception, improve awareness about emergency contraception, and provide compassionate assistance to rape victims.

"Finally, I support the enactment and enforcement of laws that help prevent violence, intimidation, and harassment directed at reproductive health providers and their patients."

Voting Record:
Sen. Obama received the following scores on NARAL Pro-Choice America's Congressional Record on Choice.
2007:
100 percent
2006: 
100 percent
2005:
100 percent

http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/statements/obama.html

[GodlessBiker]

4. I thought you said these were pictures of Obama's mailers.

[DUyellow]

11. my bad, i got confused when Clinton was talking about dishonest mailers

[alteredstate]

34. Why don't you edit your post?

[Dogmudgeon]

44. He was being "cute".

And you know how that impresses people.

--p!

[Scurrilous]

5. LOL

:thumbsup:

[BeatleBoot]

6. Jan 8th ??? The mailers she spoke of were for the Ohio Primary on March 4th

I don't get it.

[jgraz]

10. It's a little process known as "you getting punked"

[lapfog_1]

28. You gotta forgive Beatle... not to quick on the draw. - n/t

[jgraz]

37. Well, unless he's spamming that same weak Nevada flyer

Then he's faster than a cockroach jacking off.

[lapfog_1]

40. Don't assume that "he" is a he.

and just how fast IS a cockroach jacking off?

I'm trying to picture that... oh wait, no I'm not!

:rofl:

Now crickets on the OTHER LEG...

[BeatleBoot]

51. One for the Memory Bank

[babylonsister]

8. This is a Clinton mailer that's full of mistruths; but I guess you know that.

http://www.lifenews.com/nat3670.html

[DUyellow]

14. my bad, i got confused when Clinton was talking about dishonest mailers

[MethuenProgressive]

20. Truth matters little to DUbama Sheep.

Follow that Judas Goat, and keep bleating contentedly.

[lligrd]

15. Hypocrisy Is Obviously One Of Hillary's Character Flaws

Maybe we should have a debate on that Hillary.

[lapfog_1]

43. That and the IWR vote are the two main reasons

that I can't support her in the primaries.

[lligrd]

47. Yep, Until Today My Opposition Was Strictly The Votes

She changed that today.

[MethuenProgressive]

16. Did you change the photo after people started responding?

There's a Presidential advisor and a certain website that would be very proud of you.

[DUyellow]

21. nope, the same pics the whole time... I changed the word ad to mailer

[MethuenProgressive]

27. So you intentionaly told an untruth just to stir shit? How Obama of you.

I hate what DUbamas have done to DU.

[Divernan]

30. You admitted & corrected a mistake - something Hillary won't do.

Good for you - Shame on Hillary!

[Tatiana]

18. OUCH! So Hillary lies in her mailers?

Anyone who lives in IL knows that Obama has stood firm against repeated Republican (and Blue Dog Democrats like Melissa Beanhead) attempts to take away government funding for Planned Parenthood.

[Arkana]

24. How disingenuous.

Had she even paid attention when pretty much every fucking news outlet (and Obama himself) explained the "present" vote in the Illinois legislature, she might not have approved this crap.

[patrice]

25. ? Some people think the valence of the Life/Choice issue could benefit from a public

discussion of the technicalities inherent in the legislative process, so evaluation of Present Life/Choice votes isn't feasible without the legislative language in front of us and some record of the things that legislators were saying about the legislation and what their related behavior was as legislators. Which is a long way of going about saying that the general public knows far too little about specific legislative language to have much of an opinion about a vote that was neither yes nor no, but rather in support of more/better discussion of the details.

[leftstreet]

31. Wedge issues won't work this time

Abortion, gay marriage, flag burning and all those fundy wedge issues once helped the Repubs, but Hillary's camp is stuck in the past here. Why is her mailer talking about abortion? It's not going to be an issue.

[patrice]

32. What do you mean Obama's mailer? This is Hillary's mailer.

I'm confused.

[DUyellow]

36. he didn't mail it, Clinton did, just showing her hypocrisy

[patrice]

getting even for his comments of Mandatory health care, maybe.

He's hurting her on that one.

[Obamaman2008]

48. Spelled out for you: Hillary DID what she is accusing Obama of doing, in spades.

Hope that is clear.

Obama could be doing exactly what she is doing. Like the copied speeches attack using a bad and outdated pun in junior high school from the 80s.

[Debi]

33. Shame on you Hillary Clinton n/t

[MaineDem]

38. What??? n/t

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[ErnestoG]

46. The Mailers were entirely accurate.

Hillary's little temper fit on CNN was just more evidence that you are looking at a losing candidate.