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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:36 PM
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To all women voting Obama: Me, I’m voting for Hillary not because she’s a woman—but because I am.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 07:39 PM by liberalnurse
Robin Morgan is not one for mincing words. She is a life-long feminist, activist and wants to invite all women to think before they vote....


http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/020108.html

"Goodbye To All That" by Robin Morgan

An award-winning writer, feminist leader, political analyst, journalist, editor, and co-founder of the Women's Media Center, Robin Morgan has published 21 books, including six of poetry, four of fiction, and the now-classic anthologies Sisterhood Is Powerful, Sisterhood Is Global, and Sisterhood Is Forever.

blog entry by Robin Morgan:

During my decades in civil-rights, anti-war, and contemporary women’s movements, I’ve avoided writing another specific “Goodbye . . .” But not since the suffrage struggle have two communities—joint conscience-keepers of this country—been so set in competition, as the contest between Hillary Rodham Clinton (HRC) and Barack Obama (BO) unfurls. So.


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Old woman are the one group that doesn’t grow more conservative with age—and we are the generation of radicals who said “Well-behaved women seldom make history.” Goodbye to going gently into any goodnight any man prescribes for us. We are the women who changed the reality of the United States. And though we never went away, brace yourselves: we’re back!

We are the women who brought this country equal credit, better pay, affirmative action, the concept of a family-focused workplace; the women who established rape-crisis centers and battery shelters, marital-rape and date-rape laws; the women who defended lesbian custody rights, who fought for prison reform, founded the peace and environmental movements; who insisted that medical research include female anatomy; who inspired men to become more nurturing parents; who created women’s studies and Title IX so we all could cheer the WNBA stars and Mia Hamm. We are the women who reclaimed sexuality from violent pornography, who put childcare on the national agenda, who transformed demographics, artistic expression, language itself. We are the women who forged a worldwide movement. We are the proud successors of women who, though it took more than 50 years, won us the vote.

We are the women who now comprise the majority of U.S. voters.

Hillary said she found her own voice in New Hampshire. There’s not a woman alive who, if she’s honest, doesn’t recognize what she means. Then HRC got drowned out by campaign experts, Bill, and media’s obsession with everything Bill.

So listen to her voice:

“For too long, the history of women has been a history of silence. Even today, there are those who are trying to silence our words.

“It is a violation of human rights when babies are denied food, or drowned, or suffocated, or their spines broken, simply because they are born girls. It is a violation of human rights when woman and girls are sold into the slavery of prostitution. It is a violation of human rights when women are doused with gasoline, set on fire and burned to death because their marriage dowries are deemed too small. It is a violation of human rights when individual women are raped in their own communities and when thousands of women are subjected to rape as a tactic or prize of war. It is a violation of human rights when a leading cause of death worldwide along women ages 14 to 44 is the violence they are subjected to in their own homes. It is a violation of human rights when women are denied the right to plan their own families, and that includes being forced to have abortions or being sterilized against their will.

“Women’s rights are human rights. Among those rights are the right to speak freely—and the right to be heard.”

That was Hillary Rodham Clinton defying the U.S. State Department and the Chinese Government at the 1995 UN World Conference on Women in Beijing (look here for the full, stunning speech).

And this voice, age 21, in “Commencement Remarks of Hillary D. Rodham, President of Wellesley College Government Association, Class of 1969.”

“We are, all of us, exploring a world none of us understands. . . . searching for a more immediate, ecstatic, and penetrating mode of living. . . . integrity, the courage to be whole, living in relation to one another in the full poetry of existence. The struggle for an integrated life existing in an atmosphere of communal trust and respect is one with desperately important political and social consequences. . . . Fear is always with us, but we just don't have time for it.”

She ended with the commitment “to practice, with all the skill of our being: the art of making possible.”

And for decades, she’s been learning how.

So goodbye to Hillary’s second-guessing herself. The real question is deeper than her re-finding her voice. Can we women find ours? Can we do this for ourselves?




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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:37 PM
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1. thanks for the post. n/t
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:37 PM
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2. Nice, promote sexism
What's next a plea to all whites to vote for Hillary?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:40 PM
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4. Oh, no. That would be wrong.
*tsk*
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:47 PM
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10. You have not taken the time to read this famous
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 07:58 PM by liberalnurse
activist blog/thoughts. So stop your road rage.

Here is a little more folks:....( Ignore the thuggery posters)



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Our President, Ourselves!”

Time is short and the contest tightening. We need to rise in furious energy—as we did when Anita Hill was so vilely treated in the U.S. Senate, as we did when Rosie Jiminez was butchered by an illegal abortion, as we did and do for women globally who are condemned for trying to break through. We need to win, this time. Goodbye to supporting HRC tepidly, with ambivalent caveats and apologetic smiles. Time to volunteer, make phone calls, send emails, donate money, argue, rally, march, shout, vote.

Me? I support Hillary Rodham because she’s the best qualified of all candidates running in both parties. I support her because her progressive politics are as strong as her proven ability to withstand what will be a massive right-wing assault in the general election.

I support her because she knows how to get us out of Iraq. I support her because she’s refreshingly thoughtful, and I’m bloodied from eight years of a jolly “uniter” with ejaculatory politics.

I needn’t agree with her on every point. I agree with the 97 percent of her positions that are identical with Obama’s—and the few where hers are both more practical and to the left of his (like health care).

I support her because she’s already smashed the first-lady stereotype and made history as a fine senator, because I believe she will continue to make history not only as the first US woman president, but as a great US president.

As for the “woman thing”?

Me, I’m voting for Hillary not because she’s a woman—but because I am.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:49 PM
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12. Truth bothers you?
Appealing to women to vote for a woman is just as morally reprehensible as appealing to whites to vote for the white candidate.
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:50 PM
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13. What's the fact that she's "famous" have to do with anything?
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:06 PM
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17. Go Hil!
All that is fine, but the litmus test for me is mandated, universal health care. Sure, it's left of the other candidates, but it's way past time we had it, and the only acceptable candidate in my mind is the only one that has spent HER political life fighting for it. Go Hil! Don't give up! Do it for us!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:34 PM
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21. Maybe....
It is not promoting it, rather than helping heal sexism in this country. The US adopted 3 Constitutional Amendments to help correct the injustices of the past. The US made the Civil Rights Act into law.

Women, however, got the 19th Amendment & Title IX. The ERA never passed.

Sexism is a huge problem still in this country. A female President will do wonders in leveling the field.

(And remember, the Constitution granted black men the right to vote a half century before it grated the same rights to white women.)
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:17 PM
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32. The Black Congressional Caucus is putting pressure on black members of Congress
to be Obama Super delegates because they share skin color, but DUers, obviously, have no problem with that.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:35 PM
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37. ...so they're putting pressure on ~themselves~?
The Congressional Black Caucus ARE black members of Congress.

And what they've done is to urge super-delegates to respect the wishes of their constituents. Why don't you tell the truth about that, instead of attempting to foment racial resentment against the CBC and the people they represent?

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:39 PM
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3. I am not a feminist, so my vote for Senator Obama has nothing to do with sex
But if that is your leading reason, by all means vote for Mrs. Clinton!

Just don't expect the rest of us to give the argument any creedence.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:52 PM
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14. Take the time to read the plight of women.
Most men prefer to ignore women unless they want something. This activist writes from the heart and is the purest essence of what a Democratic Liberal is all about.

" We the People " ...includes women! Oh what a concept!





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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:28 PM
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18. What about "I am not a feminist" did you not get?
"The plight of women"?

*yawn*
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:01 PM
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24. So...You are a
Progressive woman who has no aspirations for progress in the rights of women. WOW! Hope you marry well...
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:04 PM
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25. Divorced, but thanks for the "well wishes".
You don't have to be a militant feminazi to be progressive. :)
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:10 PM
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26. I wouldn't use that phrase.
It is ugly. And awful. And unfortunate. (Kinda oozes of Rush Limbaugh, don't ya think?)

But thanks for the smiley. Right back at ya. This whole primary thing will be over soon enough. November is gonna freaking rock. A Democratic Senator from Texas? Could happen...
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:17 PM
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31. We have a career (R) in the house that is being challenged by a relatively unknown Dem.
I can't WAIT for November!!

:woohoo:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:22 PM
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34. You leave
Mike Gravel out of this! Right now!

:toast:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:23 PM
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35. LOL!
:toast:
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:24 PM
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36. holy smoke -- really?
You really are a progressive woman who is not a feminist? No kidding?


:wow:


I thought I was the only one!

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:22 PM
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33. Take the time to understand that closed government hurts EVERY issue, even women's
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 09:22 PM by blm
issues.

Clintons side with closed government.

When I vote I am an anti-corruption, Open Government Democratic CITIZEN.

We are all CITIZENS when we vote and we have DUTIES as CITIZENS to vote for Open Government lawmakers who respect us as CITIZENS.

Those who fall for being treated as voters to be manipulated instead of citizens to be respected with the truth have little in common with THIS woman.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:40 PM
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5. You rock!!!
:yourock:




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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:40 PM
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6. Blaming Hillary's train wreck on campaign experts, Bill, and the media.
Hillary's lack of leadership and failure to take responsibility for her own mistakes disqualifies her as a presidential candidate.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:42 PM
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9. Or qualifies her to run for George Bush Jr.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:41 PM
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7. nice perspective
thanks for sharing this
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:41 PM
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8. Great post - Many good points n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:48 PM
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11. I'm a woman who is an Open Government Democratic CITIZEN when I vote. Clinton is NOT an
Open Government Democrat so I will not vote for her.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:53 PM
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15. Many women refuse to vote for Hillary. Are they "sexist", "misogynists"...
If she hadn't stuck with her husband, who is a lying cheating philanderer and psychopath, she'd be working for Walmart as some corporate lawyer somewhere.

I would think a REAL feminist would want women who can stand on their own and have made a name on their own without borrowing their husband's resumé...like Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi and others that are REAL leaders...as well as not war mongers.

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:30 PM
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19. Maybe we don't want to vote for her because we don't believe she will be
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 08:30 PM by Yael
a good President?

For the love of Mike -- she can't even oversee her campaign team effectively. If that is her *only* true experience as a leader -- what does that say for a HRC presidency?
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:03 PM
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39. I absolutely agree with you.
I've long despised both the Clintons, but my opinion of Hillary Clinton dropped even lower after she chose to stick by her cheating husband (a serial cheater, no less) even after he dragged her name through the mud and publically embarrassed her. If I were she, I would have kicked his ass to the curb so fast he never would have known what hit him. Yet she chose to stand by her man. *cue Tammy Wynette song* Did she do it out of love? I sincerly doubt that. It's become increasingly more evident that she did it out of political aspirations. She used her husband's coattails to coast her way into the Senate. Thankfully it appears that her co-presidency bid for the White House has been stopped.

Also, why did she wait until she began campaigning for the Senate to start using her maiden name? If she were all, "I am woman; hear me roar," wouldn't she have been using her maiden name all along? Surely the name change had nothing to do with crafting an image for her campaign!

I'm a feminist -- always have been -- and I think Hillary Rodham Clinton is a disgrace to women.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:59 PM
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16. TY
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:30 PM
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20. A little to late, don't you think?
:shrug:

I mean Super Tuesday was almost 3 weeks ago.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:41 PM
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22. I am thinking, and because I am a woman, a mother, and an activist, the last thing I want is a woman
who runs as the wife of a former president. The last thing I want is that somebody tells me I have to vote for a woman because SHE IS A WOMAN. My voice and my choice are mine, not yours, not Robin Morgan's and I will use it in my own terms!

Women have fought for a long time to make their OWN choices, and I want to make my, not be told what to vote, whether it is coming from a man or a woman.

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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:46 PM
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23. I would love a female president, but Hillary's not the one for me.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 08:51 PM by Connie_Corleone
I really don't give a damn what some baby boomer feminist has to tell me. I make up my own mind who to support.

Some, and I said SOME, of these baby boomer feminists are really pathetic. They're calling other women traitors for not supporting Hillary. They call men sexist because they prefer Obama over Hillary.

Get a clue. Maye we don't support Hillary based on her qualities and some of her policies.

I'd rather have Governor Kathleen Sebelius as president over Hillary.



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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:13 PM
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27. I vote for the best candidate
I don't care whether they are a man or woman, what color they are or what their sexual orientation is.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:15 PM
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28. Thank you!
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 09:15 PM by susankh4
I enjoyed that immensely. Will circulate!

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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:15 PM
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29. I hope someday we can find the right woman
to lead us. I think having a woman leader would be wonderful but Hillary is just not the right woman for the job.

She has too much baggage and is very negative. Even if she won is this what we want the world to see as the type of person to respect?

I think many women are so determined to have a woman at any cost they aren't seeing the whole picture.

I have found my voice and its telling me to vote Obama this time and someday in the future the right woman will be out there and she will bring the people to her men and women and won't have to fight dirty to win.

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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:17 PM
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30. I did think! I am a 58 year old woman, mother and grandmother and
I want the best. That is why I am voting Obama. I am not doing this for just myself. I am also doing it for my children and grandchildren.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:39 PM
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38. As demonstrated by a couple of people on this thread, having a set of ovaries doesn't.....
....make one a feminist by default. Kate Michelman has gone into eloquent detail about why she endorsed first Edwards, and now Obama.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:33 PM
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40. Thanks liberalnurse.
Hillary's speech was absolutely beautiful and awe inspiring. It's a shame so many women don't understand and are just blinded by their hatred of the Clintons. I'm going to save and bookmark this excellent post. Thank you.

By the way...I love that cartoon!
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