YOU ARE A SEXIST!! (You might be a sexist if......)

[Thepricebreaker]

If you support Obama - YOU ARE A SEXIST!

If you criticize Hillary Clinton - YOU ARE A SEXIST!

If you disagree with Hillary supporters - YOU ARE A SEXIST!

If you think Hillary ever lost a debate - YOU ARE A SEXIST!

If you think Hillary uses tears for headlines - YOU ARE A SEXIST!

If you ever made fun of Hillary's pantsuits - YOU ARE A SEXIST!

If you put an negative adjective in the same sentence with the word Hillary - YOU ARE A SEXIST!

.... Oh this can go on and on... feel free to chime in and add yours..;)


I have been called a sexist a billion times today - I might as well have fun rather then be angry....

[Name removed]

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[yourout]

2. Pretty much covers it.

[blonndee]

I'll chime in: This isn't helpful.

Yes, there are some people who yell sexism at every turn, but there are plenty of Hillary and Obama supporters alike who see genuine sexism here and we don't like it. I know you're joking, but I don't think this kind of strawman argument and mocking does anything but stir the shit.

[Thepricebreaker]

6. All I get is "your sexist" and its far from the truth.. and im sick of it.

[ErnestoG]

12. You aren't the only one. It's beyond dumb.

[blonndee]

24. Then you should confront those instances in the relevant post

instead of calling out a big group of diverse people. If truly ALL you get is "you're sexist," you MIGHT want to carefully consider your words. I haven't read your posts, so I can't judge whether or not there is any truth to it. Anyway, this kind of call out is, as I said, unhelpful.

[QC]

52. Sick of it already? After only eleven days on DU?

What a sensitive soul you are.

[fishwax]

157. .

:rofl:

[NastyRiffraff]

3. And you are a FOOL! n/t

[KAZ]

4. Is this really necessary? Give it a rest.

[Midlodemocrat]

5. Aren't you precious! *pinches cheeks*. It's time for bed, little boy.

[Thepricebreaker]

8. Thanks :P n/t

[LadyVT]

7. Definition of sexism

1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.

snip

Sexism has been described as the practice of domination of women. It is a practice that is supported in many different ways that are critical to our socialization into our sex roles, and therefore makes this domination acceptable in society—through language, visual association, media representation, and stereotyping, especially on the basis of the mothering/caring role of women. Sexism is important also because all women experience it in different ways, depending upon their social and economic situation—within the family and in jobs—and it limits the ways in which women seek to actualize their potential.

from Answers.com http://www.answers.com/topic/sexism

[Thepricebreaker]

148. Which is not in this post.....

[AtomicKitten]

9. Yep, that pretty much sums up how it goes around here.

Sexist! ;)

[Lost-in-FL]

18. ...

I love your little cartoon!! It's sooo cute!!!

[AtomicKitten]

32. gracias

And I'm rather fond of dead elephants!

[Cha]

60. I just got it..I hadn't looked

at it close enough 'til I read your post.

[Pamela Troy]

10. If you consistently refer to a female candidate as "unhinged,"

"irrational," "shrill," "shrieking," "having a melt-down", "desperate," "breaking down," etc. every time she gets even mildly heated in a debate or discussion, yes.

You are a sexist.

(From a disgusted Obama supporter.)

[ErnestoG]

15. Bullshit. NONE of those words are gender specific.

Bush has been called all of those things, accurately, for years now.

Do you need a step ladder to come down off that REALLY high horse?

[LadyVT]

21. They serve to promote gender stereotypes of women as emotionally unstable

[ErnestoG]

35. Only when used by a real sexist. WORDS are nothing without intent.

I know you are smart enough to discern the difference.

[Pamela Troy]

39. The words you choose

indicate your attitudes, and describing a woman who's simply angry, but still articulate and controlled as "unhinged," etc. does not cast a flattering light on your attitudes towards women.

[ErnestoG]

115. FALSE.

The intent and shade of meaning you have chosen in context with the dialogue is what indicate your "attitude". YOUR interprepation of MY meaning is no one's fault but your own.

[Pamela Troy]

127. Sorry, but that's just how language works. Typing the word "FALSE" in

capital letters does not change it. If someone consistently refers to black people as "lazy," "stupid," or "welfare cheats," if they consistently refer to Jewish people as "money-grubbers" and conniving, if they consistently refer to women as "unhinged" and "irrational," those words tell us a lot about the speaker or writers attitude.

I suggest you read up, not only about sexism, but about propaganda, advertising, and, for that matter, writing in general.

[Pamela Troy]

25. You really don't know how sexism works, do you?

It's standard operating procedure in the sexist's lexicon -- react as though any sign of anger in a woman is a sign of "hysteria" or incipient insanity. "Uppity women" have, for centuries been denounced as neurotic or insane.

And no, it has NOT been applied to Bush as consistently or as frequently as it has to Hilary Clinton.

[ErnestoG]

40. Sure I do...it works like this....

on DU, anyway:

Don't like Hillary? Dont agree with what she says? Don't like her pro war vote?

THEN YOU ARE A SEXIST.

[enid602]

58. on the other hand . . . ..

Don't like universal health care? Then you must he a racist.

[Pamela Troy]

66. Actually, it works like this:

Hillary Clinton is described everywhere as "breaking down," "sobbing," "bursting into tears," "clearly out of control," etc. before the cameras.

I finally see the video tape. She chokes up slightly while speaking and looks a little emotional. That's it.

HIllary Clinton is described as "losing her temper" during a debate, "screaming," becoming incoherent and, of course, "shrill."

I finally see the debate. She gets a little heated -- along with Edwards and Obama who, of course, are NOT described as "screaming," becoming incoherent and "shrill," etc. That's it.

Excited posts appear here on DU. OMG! WTF! Hillary is UNHINGED! She's UNRAVELLING!!! She's SHRILL! She's SHRIEKING, the posters shriek, hopping up and down excitedly and waving their hands. OMG! OMG!

I finally see the videotape. Hillary is pissed. She is, however, quite controlled, quite articulate and nowhere near "shrieking." That's it.

I suggest you do a little reading up on sexism and its history, especially when it comes to accusing women of irrationality.

[rodeodance]

96. well said-that is exactly how it works on this board

[ErnestoG]

98. What you read into that was positively novel-esque!

Take off the victim glasses and you will see that she was ACCURATELY called unhinged in that sad spectacle over Obama's fliers because that is exactly what it was. Do you think I want someone of that flash temper to get anywhere near control of the US military?

You must be kidding.

[Pamela Troy]

105. No need to write a novel. It all happened exactly that way.

She was accused of "breaking down" because she got slightly choked up.
She was accused of "shrieking" and losing her temper because she got as heated as Edwards and Obama were during a debate.

And now she's accused of being "unhinged" "(OMG! OMG! OMG!) because she was visibly angry.

And now you've pulled out the "don't let some irrational woman get control of the military chestnut."

Next you'll be saying she's "on the rag" or in a menopausal frenzy.

[Catherine Vincent]

153. One O supporter called it a freak-out. nt

[unapatriciated]

156. I'm also very tired of the victim card....

If a woman points out an injustice or inequality, than we are playing the victim. I'm not a victim I'm a survivor! Using that type of language when we speak out against an injustice is just another way of keeping us in our "place".
I voted for Edwards but I'm sick to death of the unabashed sexism I have seen being used towards Senator Clinton.

[Thepricebreaker]

26. Bingo......

[yourguide]

11. May I plagairize and add:

f you support Obama - YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN!

If you criticize Hillary Clinton - YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN!

If you disagree with Hillary supporters - YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN!

If you think Hillary ever lost a debate - YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN!

If you think Hillary uses tears for headlines - YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN!

If you ever made fun of Hillary's pantsuits - YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN!

If you put an negative adjective in the same sentence with the word Hillary - YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN!


I was called a republican twice today, and a right winger once....riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I guess they cant use the sexist thing on me because I am a woman.

[Thepricebreaker]

16. You are so right.. I get shit all the time...

[Maddy McCall]

19. Gee! I wonder why.

[yourguide]

Another PRIME example...

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. boy, you are stupid nt

[loveangelc]

17. if you dont support hillary you are sexist. :p

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

22. There Has Been Much Sexism Towards Hillary Lately. LEGITIMATE SEXISM. Now, Want Me To Make You A

list of why some here are total fucking assholes?

[ErnestoG]

23. If you were born in a month with an R in it, you're a sexist!

[efhmc]

27. Typical small minded, immature, unreasoned ditherings.

[Fox Mulder]

28. Hey Thepricebreaker, early January called.

They said they're sick of you.

[lapfog_1]

29. Actually

"If you ever made fun of Hillary's pantsuits - YOU ARE A SEXIST!"

Yes, that one makes you a sexist.

Please stop, you are not helping Senator Obama, you are only making yourself look bad.

[Thepricebreaker]

31. Really? come on..

[lapfog_1]

74. Nope... you need to stop... and apologize

and yeah, I'm acting like the net police now. I guess I'll volunteer with Skinner to be a mod.

You got a beef with Hillary, fine... probably no more than I do.

I don't like her policies, her voting record or her campaign tactics. And that is what I write about here. Not her looks, her clothing, the sound of her voice or any other superficial things, especially if they are things relating to her sex. The world has had many female leaders, both present and past, I see no reason why the United States can't elect one.

Hillary is no saint. But she is a Democrat and a Senator and a fine presidential candidate (who happens to have a horrible campaign) and deserves our respect.

[Maddy McCall]

34. Thank you for speaking up.

I appreciate the Obama folks who do this. :hug:

[lapfog_1]

53. Thank you, hoping you read all of my posts on your thread...

and that you will help with the worst of the racist and homophobic posts as well.

If we all work together, we can elevate the debate at least to a point where we aren't screaming
"racist!" "homophobe!" "sexist!" and (my personal favorite since it's the one most often thrown at me) "cultist!".

Not to say we will all agree on everything, we likely won't. But we don't have to stoop to this level to make our points or to disagree.

[Maddy McCall]

59. I did. I will. I agree.

:toast:

[Name removed]

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[Thepricebreaker]

33. Yes.. ban every Non-Hillary supporter!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

38. Oh You Silly Little Thing. She Wasn't Talkin About Non-Hillary Supporters. She Meant Blatant Trolls

:hi:

[Thepricebreaker]

43. Sorry i sick of being called a sexist.. so... im having fun rather then getting mad..

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

51. Sometimes I Get Sick Of Being Called An Asshole Too, But Then, I Realize I Am An Asshole.

So basically, what I'm sayin is, some titles are earned. Get over it.

[Maddy McCall]

55. Sorry about that.

:blush:

:rofl:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

62. LOL

Know what Maddy, somewhere along the lines, for reasons I'm not quite sure of, I've really started taking a liking to you. Maybe when all this is over, we'll find reason to be on opposite sides again. But for now? I kinda dig ya lol.

[Maddy McCall]

68. I know!

Same here. But let's not act too friendly in public.

:rofl:

[Maddy McCall]

54. That's what the last troll said, shortly before being banned.

Thanks for posting that!

[Thepricebreaker]

64. And it was all said by you... how wonderful.

[DS1]

goddamn you've picked up 'GDP asshole' real quick for such a noob

[Maddy McCall]

37. I'm hoping they're working on that consensus right now.

He's been flinging poo all over DU tonight. Deranged little one, he is.

[Thepricebreaker]

41. ... uhuh - ban the evil person who doesnt agree with us!!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

42. Generally, Trolls Are Banned Rather Quickly. Other Times, We Need To Be A Bit More Patient.

[Maddy McCall]

48. You should see some of the garbage he's posted tonight.

Any rational person, regardless of which candidate he or she supports, would come to the conclusion that this one's here to do nothing but create flamebait.

[BooScout]

83. He joined what 10 days ago.........

and most of hs posts have been deleted. I especially found his posts regarding women's breasts offensive. Hopefully enough mods to form a quorum will show up soon and get rid of him. He's even admitted doing posts like this for fun.

[Thepricebreaker]

88. Notice my detractors replies were deleted.. but not this thread.. I broke no rules with it. n/t

[Maddy McCall]

45. No. Ban the obvious troll. You.

It happens frequently.

[Thepricebreaker]

61. Angry angry angry.. and you wonder why Obama is going to win the nomination and in November.

[Maddy McCall]

67. Tick tick tick tick tick...

Hear that? Those are the seconds that you'll remain a member here ticking down.

[Thepricebreaker]

69. Again.. nothing I said goes against the rules here. AT ALL.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

103. She Just Doesn't Like Trolls Who Fly Just Enough Under The Radar To Stay.

What that has to do with Hillary being behind is a mystery.

[DS1]

65. I can't wait

[ErnestoG]

73. the Hillar's end game.

[BooScout]

89. How do you get over 2000 posts in less than a month?

Oh yea......you join a political forum and become a troll. :eyes:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

108. Well, Some Posters Post Shit. Others Have Diarrhea. Diarrhea Comes Far More Rapidly.

[ErnestoG]

116. Maybe you should concern yourself with staying pertinent.

Or is it hard for you to focus on the dialogue at hand without getting personal?

Hell, of course it is. Look at your candidate.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

154. By The Way, I LAUGHED MY ASS OFF At The Mod Locking Message To You Earlier.

It was so damn appropriate and spot on. Gotta love the Mods!!!

[Maddy McCall]

141. By stalking me around and trying to get me to fight with him.

[casus belli]

36. "You might be a sexist if...." Let's take it on the road :) n/t

[NastyRiffraff]

57. Oh yeah, sexism is FUN!

Ye gods. We might as well be back in the 1950s.

[casus belli]

97. Please kindly give it a rest.

I was making a reference to the "You might be a redneck if..." comedy routine that has made its originator rich. This was lighthearted fun....relax.

[DS1]

44. quit your whining douchebag

you're just as bad

[goodgd_yall]

46. You are trivializing a real issue n/t

[Forkboy]

151. Thanks...that's my problem with this post as well.

I know a few Hillary fans have fallen prey to spouting that at any chance (and a few Obama supporters who laugh at it), but it's a real and serious issue, and one that should be taken as such, regardless of the candidate you support.

[NMMNG]

47. I smell pizza in your future.

Now go play in the road.

[terrya]

56. So do I.

He can go back to his friends at Free Republic now.

[Thepricebreaker]

146. with mushrooms?

[knowledgeispwr]

49. There is legitimate instances of sexism on this board

and those who point it out are often dismissed. Likewise with racism. This board has reached a low point this evening.

[Hutzpa]

50. In

before this gets lock.....

[terrya]

63. I feel bad for the mods.

To have to deal with bullshit flamebait garbage like this.

[Forkboy]

104. I do and I don't.

They know what they're in for, and the Admins seem to let different rules apply to different forums (stuff in here would be squelched quickly in any other forum), so the applying mods have to know what they're in for. I don't mean to sound cold, though I'm sure I do, but this forum is exactly what the Admins must want...nothing more or less. If you feel sorry for the mods then you should talk to the people who run the site and allow what they do here. The mods enforce rules that are already made, not ones they make up themselves. And those rules come from on high (and I'm not for a second saying I would do a better job, just sharing how I see things).

[saltpoint]

70. So. Are there any Petula Clark fans on-line this evening?

I love Petula Clark.

[Thepricebreaker]

72. Popular international hits of the 1960s???

[saltpoint]

78. The very one. The woman stands 4'5" and speaks a wheelbarrowful of

languages.

Give me "Don't Sleep in the Subway" or give me death.

[GoneOffShore]

75. Lots of fun Petula

She's still singing.

[saltpoint]

77. It's true, she IS, and she's still sublime.

I can see disputes and disagreements on politics. Really I can.

But if someone doesn't like Petula Clark, there's DEFINITELY someonthing wrong with them.

[GoneOffShore]

71. You might be a troll if

you are working on disrupting this board by posting flamebait.

I support Obama - I don't much like Hilary (Never have, never will - but if she gets the nomination I'll hold my nose and vote for her - I hope for the sake of the country and the Democratic Party she doesn't).

But I like trolls not at all.

Of course, some trolls are cleverer than others and some are transparent.

What do you want on your pizza?

[Lost-in-FL]

76. Are you calling me sexy??

LOL...




But seriously... get over it, let it go.

[Thepricebreaker]

79. SEXY!!! ;) n/t

[mckeown1128]

80. delete...nt

[Thepricebreaker]

81. Shhh you might get banned! Its going around like a virus!

Ugh..

[mckeown1128]

82. really? I didn't think my comments were offensive?! nt

[Thepricebreaker]

84. Either did I, or did I think were mine.. but.. hey! The purge has begun!

[mckeown1128]

160. How many have been purged? and are they all supporters of

one candidate?

[rodeodance]

85. so now DU has resorted to mocking sexism? Shame on all of you who contribute

by snarks, mocks or fun--but most of all to the OP!

[Thepricebreaker]

86. No one is mocking... its showing how the word is thrown around in very very easy fashion.... n/t

[Pamela Troy]

90. It's showing how completely clueless some of you are

about what sexism is and how it works.

(Disgusted Obama supporter.)

[Thepricebreaker]

91. yes... its only the way you see it.... there are no other opinions allowed... n/t

[Pamela Troy]

95. And exactly how have I manifested this intention of eliminating all

opinions but mine? By arguing with you?

[Thepricebreaker]

102. by saying im clueless... Thus im inferior and ignorant on the topic of sexism.

[Pamela Troy]

109. Yes, you are clueless. Yes, you are ignorant on the topic of sexism.

How exactly does saying this indicate that I think you shouldn't be allowed to post here or that I'm attempting to "eliminate" your opinion. Do you seek to eliminate the posts of everyone here YOU think is ignorant or clueless?

[Thepricebreaker]

I never said you were clueless or ignorant... Your free to say what you want. but...

I don't scorn you for it...

[Pamela Troy]

114. And if you did, I would not instantly denounce it as an attempt to silence me.

I'd argue with you.

So argue. Present your case. But be prepared to be told you are wrong when you are wrong.

[Thepricebreaker]

120. I already made my case - and its still a viable thread...

[Pamela Troy]

128. Simply stating an argument does not qualify as "making a case."

You need to be able to defend and argue it rationally, addressing the points raised in contention. So far, you haven't.

[Thepricebreaker]

131. I defend my statement with the replies of others twords me - on this thread.. ;) n/t

[Pamela Troy]

139. Hiding behind the other posters here is not much of a defense.

And do you REALLY want me to assume they all speak for you?

[rodeodance]

107. I am no Obama supporter. I came onto this thread and was appauled that

this thread existed.

I actually responded above to your --this is how it works here on DU.


best

[rodeodance]

110. Then start a serious OP--not the type posted--

[Thepricebreaker]

112. Serious or not.. it would get the same reaction from the Hillbots. and you know it! n/t

[Iris]

87. No one is mocking. Sexism is rampant here and when it's pointed out, we're shouted

down some more.

[casus belli]

101. Making a mockery of sexism is....

randomly accusing someone of it, with no real reason for the accusations. Sexism has become a generic term used to describe things which aren't even close to being sexist in nature. So which cheapens it. A light hearted joke about it, or those who use it to describe anything or anyone with whom they don't agree?

[saltpoint]

92. I invoke Petula Clark this evening in regard to the charge of sexism

being tossed back and forth on the DU boards of late.

I am at this hour preparing a post in which Petula Clark and the representation of males and females in the modern world are prevalent themes.

It may interest no one. It may interest but a few stray souls. It may attract millions. I don't see it as a quantitative undertaking but as a pouring forth, if you will, of deeply personal and revelatory concerns.

All of you will be invited, to be sure. Casual dress. Please bring a can of ravioli for Republican orphans.

[robbedvoter]

93. Or if you post threads like these:

Ready To Pitch An Hysterical Wifey Fit On The First Day."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4732490
The PMS/Midol thread was actually erased after repeated alerts - but I'll have a warm memory of
"she reminds every man of the first wife he divorced"

Other than that, glad you're having fun with hurting people.

[NoodleyAppendage]

94. Voting for Hillary because she's a woman is BIGOTRY. Pure and simple.

Too bad many of the DU HillBots fail to understand this fact.

...and NO, I dislike Hillary not because she is a woman, but because she represents all that has gone wrong with the Democratic Party ever since her hubby moved the Party to the Right to gain votes. Less DINO, more Democrat is what is needed and that means NO GO FOR HILLARY.

J

[Thepricebreaker]

99. Exactly... Judge her as a PERSON - gender has NOTHING to do with it... Oh your spot on... n/t

[ErnestoG]

100. Judge her as a person? Why you...you...sexist!

[Thepricebreaker]

106. TRUST ME.. Ive been getting it ALL night... LOL n/t

[ErnestoG]

118. Pathetic. The only thing worse than Queen Hillary's outburst...

are her supporters laughably lame attempts to call all who criticize her "sexist".

[Thepricebreaker]

123. you should see my inbox.. oh its bad....

[Pamela Troy]

111. You know, I keep hearing this from people

in the course of them trying to justify their insults towards Hillary Clinton.

I've yet to see any post from any woman urging us all to vote for Clinton simply because she's a woman. Oh, I don't doubt there are a few, but they don't seem to be so thick upon the ground that I come across them very frequently.

[Thepricebreaker]

117. You think they could say that?

If someone said that, they would be laughed at... there are plenty of woman that are voting for her simply because they want to see the first female president. I know of few woman that openly admit that.. Just to make history... nothing more..... You think gender has nothing to do with this - in the eyes of some woman?

[Pamela Troy]

125. I think that the number of women voting for her because Hillary is a woman

is wildly exaggerated. I think there are many, many more men who simply ASSUME that women are voting for Hillary because she's a woman.

I must say, I find your assumptions fascinating. No, you seem to be saying, we women don't come out and SAY we're voting for her because of her sexual equipment -- we're waaaaaaay too sneaky for that! But you, with your incredible powers of discernment, can look into our hearts and ferret out the dreadful truth! No matter WHAT we say, of course, you know the dreadful facts about our motives.

Right?

[Thepricebreaker]

129. No....

No.... I think some woman actually look at the issues and like what she has to say.. and others.. simply vote for her because she is female. They exist.. If its 1 or 1,000,000 it doesn't matter.. they are out there.

[Pamela Troy]

132. Yes, it does matter if there is 1 or 1,000,000 when you and others

keep acting as though it's an argument you're hearing all the time. It's not. It's just something you're presuming about many of the women arguing with you.

[casus belli]

126. Maybe not, but what you do see...

is people being called sexist for pointing out observations about Hillary which really don't qualify as sexism even if you're stretching the definition. Accusing someone of being sexist, without knowing that it was their intention, is itself sexist. To suggest that someone perceives someone differently because they don't share their gender, shows that the person is predisposed to a line of reasoning which says - because this person is a man they might have meant this in a sexist way. That is a form of sexism.

My suggestion would be for everyone to grow a thicker skin, and maybe save the accusations of sexism for those who are obvious. I mean, you have to admit, when taken to the extreme you could really find examples of potential sexism in just about everything if you really look for it. The same is true of racism, homophobia or any other type of irrational fears or intolerance.

[Pamela Troy]

138. No, I don't see that very often. Oh, I don't doubt that it happens,

but most of the accusations of sexism I've seen have been in response to the sexist hyperbole typically used to describe women. If she chokes up slightly, she's "breaking down," if she gets heated in discussion she's "shrill," if she gets angry she's "shrieking" and "unravelling."

No, we can't directly read the minds and therefore the intentions of people who speak or write to us. If we could, we wouldn't need language. We can -- and we must, because that's what language is for -- infer from the words a person chooses what their intentions and attitudes are. Do you ever use the word "racist?" "Sexist?" Can you read minds?

Of course, men and women perceive things differently, just as whites and blacks do, southerners and northerners, Californians and New Yorkers, Europeans and Americans perceive things differently. If the perspective is different, the perception is likely to be. No, this doesn't mean that one automatically assumes that "because this person is a man they might have meant this in a sexist way." The comments made are judged on their own merits. And by the way -- plenty of women make sexist comment about other women. It's one of the hard lessons most of us learn as we get older.

[Behind the Aegis]

119. What?

Do you know what bigotry is? Because if you think voting for Clinton because she is a woman is bigotry, then you obviously don't know what the definition of the word is.

[Thepricebreaker]

121. So voting for a man - SIMPLY because he is man vs a woman isnt bigotry? I think it is...

[Behind the Aegis]

130. That would be a good example of bigotry.

But voting for a man because he is a man is not bigotry. No more so than someone who is black voting for a black person because s/he is black. The only way the other person's example would be bigotry is if someone voted for Clinton because she is a woman, and s/he (voter) believes that women are superior in some form or fashion, in this case politics. Voting for Clinton because she is a woman may be biased, but it doesn't necessarily mean it is bigoted.

[Thepricebreaker]

134. So he is simply saying the same thing, but in reverse.....n/t

[Behind the Aegis]

135. It is not the same thing though.

The person is voting for Clinton because she is a woman, not because she is not a man. If it were for the latter reason, then that would be bigotry (misandry); if the former, then it may simply be bias, though bigotry could be a motivating factor.

[NoodleyAppendage]

142. Splitting hairs and semantics. You know what was meant and the point is correct.

Supporting someone SOLELY upon their skin color, sexual preference, gender, or other physical characteristic is wrong and only perpetuates the division among people.

J

[Behind the Aegis]

143. Using the word "bigotry" correctly is not splitting hairs and semantics.

"Supporting someone SOLELY upon their skin color, sexual ORIENTATION, gender, or other physical characteristic.." may be silly, in my opinion, but it is not bigotry. It is bigotry if the person votes that way because s/he is voting AGAINST someone else because of (in spite of) "skin color, sexual ORIENTATION, gender, or other physical characteristic."

[NoodleyAppendage]

147. How do you vote against someone? You cast a vote FOR someone.

Last I checked the Presidential election was not based upon positive and negative votes racked up by each candidate.

If a woman and a man are running against each other in an election and a person votes for the woman JUST BECAUSE she is a woman, then in effect that person is rendering a judgment against the other person because that other person is NOT of the preferred gender. This would be bigotry, for while an explicit vote was never rendered against that person, the effect is the same.

[Behind the Aegis]

152. Easy-peasy.

I vote for the democratic candidate because I am voting against the republican one, usually. Sometimes, I actually vote for the democratic candidate because I like the person's issues and stances. In one case I am voting for something, in the other case I am voting for something by voting for the opposite. The end result is still the same, but the motivations are very different. There were a number of persons here who were wanting to vote for Lamont (despite not knowing all his stances) because it was an opportunity to vote against Lieberman.

As for your example, it still depends. Even if I vote for a woman because she is a woman, it doesn't mean I am doing so because her opponent is a man (that is bigotry). While the end results may be the same, it doesn't mean the way the result was achieved was the same. Personally, I feel it is silly to vote for someone based on something like gender, etc., but you will find that most people who are doing so are doing so out of a sense of pride (if they are a member of the said group). You seem to be confusing bias and bigotry. Voting for someone because she is a woman as a the sole reason is biased, but bias doesn't necessarily mean bigotry.

[theHandpuppet]

113. How about "You might be a total JERK..."

"... if you start a thread like this one."

[apocalypsehow]

122. Interesting, one of your antagonists in this thread was caught red-handed lying, was presented with

irrefutable proof of her lying, and was kindly asked FIVE times to retract her lies. She refused, and now has the arrogant audacity to lecture others on their moral shortcomings.

As I said, interesting.

[From The Left]

124. Ka-Ching!

Excellent.

[apocalypsehow]

133. Ahem.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4687099&mesg_id=4692520

[apocalypsehow]

136. Watch your thread drop like a rock after evidence of a serial liar's falsehoods are linked -

the Hillarybots want no part of kicking that sort of thing back up for all to see.

[saltpoint]

137. And by the way, those commercials for Plymouth that Petula Clark did

were to die for.

I bet the company wishes she'd do some more.

[flyarm]

140. oh pleaseeeeeee do get over yourself ..and gu..eom

[Maddy McCall]

144. "Nor should it be looked at that way, simply because the person happens to have a pair of breasts."

That's not sexist? Or should I post what you said before you edited.

You ARE a sexist. Your posts in your brief time at DU demonstrate this. Your attempt to make a joke of it after your posts have been deleted for being SEXIST doesn't make you not a sexist.

[Thepricebreaker]

145. Notice... replies to this thread were deleted from the mods, but not this thread...

This thread already got attention from the mods.. and they didn't delete it... It breaks no rules..

and no.. im not a sexist.. I'm sorry you feel that way...

You throw that word around so easily...

BTW.. I like your frog..

[Name removed]

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[Catherine Vincent]

150. I can't believe five idiots recommended this thread.

No wait, I can believe it.

[Name removed]

155. Deleted message

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[noiretextatique]

158. what utter horseshit eom

[FlyingSquirrel]

159. Um, what else is she supposed to wear - a dress?

Sheesh. I agree with most of what you're saying, but I do think that it's pretty sexist to be making fun of the pantsuits. Besides, they look good.

[Johnny__Motown]

161. If You Have Two Different Chromosomes

[chknltl]

162. What if I own a Billy The Talking Bass?

....wouldn't that make me a redneck and therefore by default a SEXEST?


:popcorn:

[OneBlueSky]

163. I am NOT sexist because I think Hillary would make a lousy president . . .

just as I am NOT racist because I think Obama would make a lousy president . . .

I AM, however, sane because I KNOW that McCain would be a disaster as president . . .

and even more sane because I strongly suspect that he'll be the one inaugurated in January . . .

for one simple reason . . .

it's not who votes that counts; it's who counts the votes! . . .

[Raejeanowl]

164. You Missed One

If you think it's a joke, have no clue that sexism really exists, or dismiss it when you see it against someone you don't admire...or is that too obvious?