If you have to ask if it's ok to use "Bitch" to refer to women because Tina Fey did...

[Maddy McCall]

then that skit went right over your head.

[NMMNG]

1. Consider the audience, Maddy.

:shrug:

[Maddy McCall]

2. I'm just sitting here giggling at the people who are saying...

"Cool! Now we can openly call women and Hillary Clinton bitches because Tina Fey did."

So much stupidity in here tonight. I swear.

:rofl:

[emilyg]

24. Amen.

[samdogmom]

26. Okay, I've read through this entire thread thus far and I don't get it!!!!

I think the term "bitch" is derogatory--no matter what.

I know you've fought against many sexist statements that you thought were made against Ms. Clinton--so tell me again, WHY IS THIS OKAY in your mind?

I'm truly lost here.

Is it okay for a laudatory MSM program to equate Hillary and "bitch" in a friendly, back-slapping, joshing way--but not okay for others in regular life--who may be joshing too????

What gives?

[Maddy McCall]

31. Did you see the skit?

[samdogmom]

34. Yes--again I think you find this an acceptable use of the derogatory term

because the two comedians appear to be endorsing Hillary. It's still a put down. The skit was humorous but I think you've got a double standard going on here: If you're for Hillary you can call her a "bitch", if you don't support her you can't.

[BlueJazz]

3. If the shoe Fits. I've called many-a-Man a "Son-of-a-bitch" and

..a Bastard.

(Although I know of no Bastards or Bitches on DU)

[Maddy McCall]

4. Well, that's nice to know.

Thanks for sharing.

[BlueJazz]

12. Women who are Nasty, Rude, Inconsiderate of others.......

....dersrve no Protocal of Niceness in actions or speech..

It's almost Fun to piss them off by calling them names...

[Maddy McCall]

19. That's nice to know. Hope it makes you happy.

[BlueJazz]

21. Not really...Just stickin' my opinion in....

[question everything]

5. This was a stroke of genius

Wonder whether it will be on YouTube.

[Maddy McCall]

9. I don't know...looking forward to seeing it again.

:)

[DDQ]

33. I totally agree. It was brilliant.....and I want to see it again

[Forkboy]

6. Who is Tina Fey?

[Maddy McCall]

11. Used to be head writer of SNL. Now has her own sitcom.

30 Rock.

[Forkboy]

15. I know. I was just being a pain.

She's very funny, and pretty much the only reason to even watch SNL. Well, Amy Poehler is better, but they waste her talents to the point of being criminal.

[Maddy McCall]

16. Oops... sorry!

I LOVE Amy Poehler. I agree with you that she's a wasted talent on that show.

She killed me on the "Rock of Love" skit, though. :rofl:

[Forkboy]

20. No apologies needed.

Ever see The Upright Citizens Brigade? She is beyond phenomenal in that series, and it's the best sketch comedy I've seen from America in decades. She is sooooo talented when it comes to characters, and pretty much all she does on SNL is the news which, let's face it, even Dennis Miller was good at. She is so wasted on the show. :(

There's a skit in UCB where she plays an ex hooker applying for a job at a coffee shop that is beyond funny. Her resume is great! UCB is Kids In The Hall on steroids, and I don't say that lightly as KitH is a great show, imo anyways.

[Maddy McCall]

23. I will check this out!

Thanks for recommending it.

[Forkboy]

27. It takes more than one viewing to get into it.

But if you give it a couple of episodes you'll see how they tie everything together, and the running gags are great. Amy is excellent, but all four people involved are really good, especially Matt Besser. If you like Amy now you'll really appreciate how talented she is after watching this though.

Here's a couple clips top get you started on UCB, the best American show in a long time.

Fortune Cookie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6swyTknZfo

Ass Pennies

("So, then you've got the upper hand!")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT7UyPuwlbI

[busymom]

7. They say bitch like it's a bad thing...

:)


Go Hillary!

Oh, ooops, this must be one of my supportive threads...I'll hit submit anyway, Maddy even though you have chosen to frame me in a negative light.

[Maddy McCall]

13. We're cool.

:hi:

[busymom]

38. :)

Thanks.

[angie_love]

8. Women own the word "bitch" just as blacks own the "n" word. Its not ok for others to say it but us.

FYI, i'm a woman and found her joke funny. I'm also an Obama supporter.

[busymom]

10. I think it's also a spin-off of the book,

Bitter is the New Black...which is a fabulous read, btw. And by black, they're talking about the little black dress and not something racially motivated, which (surprise) has been hinted at tonight as well.

[angie_love]

17. I know what she meant. I just meant that bitch an "n" word are kind of the same in that black ppl

took back the "n" word and woman took back "bitch". I knew she was talking comparing to "little black dress".

"which (surprise) has been hinted at tonight as well.". I wasn't trying to be sarcastic with my post and I hope you're not trying to be sarcastic with me. I defended Tiny Feys use of "bitch".

[TheDonkey]

46. bitch is not the same as the n word so stop trying to play that game

[BlueJazz]

18. Sorry....Women have no right to "Own" any Word. You may be offended by it...

...and ask others not to use it...but that's as far as it needs to go...

[Der Blaue Engel]

30. Wrong. We own it. Get over it.

:P

[BlueJazz]

44. Oh...Yeah ....Miss Smarty Pants.....You women can have (that Word) but...

...we Men get the word "Chocolate" Ha!

Hello from a former Californian... (Pacifica)

[Der Blaue Engel]

45. I used to live in Pacifica

and that's Ms. Smarty Pants to you. :hi:

[BlueJazz]

50. Who Knows....I may have passed you in an aisle at Safeway.

...or the Chevron station (on highway 1 )

:) :) :) :)

[Jamastiene]

47. I'll call YOU a a bitch if you don't give me some of the chocolate.

:evilgrin:

[BlueJazz]

49. Sure...No Problem

[wndycty]

35. I absolutely agree

:kick:

[tammywammy]

14. Or maybe I just like teasing DU

I liked the skit. :)

[Johnny__Motown]

22. I would hope that people know the difference between a comedy routine and the rest of reality

[napi21]

As an old lady, I've proudly declared "I was a bitch" many times!

To me it means being tough, a hard ass, and holding your own in a fight! I think it's a good title when it fits!

[napi21]

25. Delet a dupe. Sorry.

[Beacool]

28. Yep, but then what do you expect from posters

who are probably either in high school or barely out of it? The amount of ridiculous posts today is enough to make an adult shake one's head in wonderment. Supposedly, Hillary is hysterical, bipolar, needs a Midol or a good fu..ing, take your pick.


:crazy:

[Maddy McCall]

29. I know. I've seen them all here.

Disgusting. Should not be tolerated by DUers OR the admins. In fact, the rules expressly forbid it.

:shrug:

[DDQ]

32. I thought Tina Fey was brilliant on Saturday Night Live tonight

and I hope to watch it again.

Go Hillary!!!!!!

[Cameron27]

36. Oh dear,

you might shattered their little egos, Maddy.

That sketch was awesome! It's about time someone took on the BS.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

37. I'd like to know why Tina's offensive comments about older women, Kirstie Alley's weight, etc.

Went over all your heads. Fey says one thing (using an offensive term no less) that sounded slightly pro-Hillary and you all are over the moon about it. Some of y'all need Feminism 101 if you think that sketch was empowering you.

[Maddy McCall]

39. Considering my MA is in feminist history....

I feel pretty secure in my judgment on this.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

40. Really?

I had no idea they were teaching that mocking women for their weight and age was acceptable.

[Maddy McCall]

41. Well, obviously you've never had a logic 101 class...

or you'd realize that you're creating red herrings.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

42. And you're cherry picking

Choosing to see what you wanted to in Fey's sketch and ignoring the rest.

[Maddy McCall]

43. Not at all. The btich skit was especially relevant to the DU context last night.

Not cherry picking at all.

[Jamastiene]

48. I didn't see the skit, but I may be guilty of using the word,

in a joking friendly way with a male friend of mine. We both do it and it's not meant in any way sexist when we do it. There is a way that's sexist as hell and I don't like it when people do it that way. I guess it's all context. That's just how I see it. I wouldn't call you a bitch though. :hug: