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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:44 AM
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Tim Russert busts Hillary Clinton for plagiarism on MTP
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 09:45 AM by alteredstate
He just aired the YouTube clips of Bill Clinton's 1992 speech and John Edwards' recent speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAYItnI-lPo

edited to fix a typo.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:46 AM
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1. All politicians adopt themes. Word for word lifting of sections of
a speech is different.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:49 AM
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4. Ravy, that's the point
Lifting sections are a bit different. :)
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:47 AM
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2. Pumpkinhead Gets It Right
Even he's onto Hillary.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:21 AM
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19. "Pumpkinhead"
OMG! :rofl:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:48 AM
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3. Nail. Coffin.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:52 AM
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5. Did He Also Point Out
That her husband is an admitted plagiarist? Plagiarized off a minister in his first inaugural.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:57 AM
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9. And did Tim point out that Hillary has been sending out ads trashing obama since the beginning!!
This hypocrisy has to stop!!!
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:53 AM
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6. Oh, Timmy!
Clinton was using a common English phrase in that answer – “whatever happens, we’re going to be fine.”

Don’t think it’s common? Here are a few examples of just how widespread the phrase is:

Laura Bush: 'Whatever happens will be fine'

NBA Star Shaquille O'Neal: ‘We'll be fine, no matter what happens.’

Actress Lindsay Lohan: ‘No matter what happens, we're going to be fine.’

Former Redskin Dexter Manley: 'Whatever happens, I'm going to be fine.'

Former Redskin Gus Frerotte: 'I look forward to whatever happens. We're going to be fine.'

Notre Dame football player Tom Zbikowski: 'Whatever happens, we're going to be fine back there.'

Angels GM Bill Stoneman: 'Whatever happens, I'm going to be fine.'

Former Giant Christian Peter: 'And whatever happens, I'm going to be fine.'

Chicago Cub Larry Rothschild: 'I'm not worried about that. Whatever happens, I'm going to be fine.'

Diamondback Edgar Gonzalez: 'Whatever happens, I’ll be fine because I’m in the big leagues.'

Hockey player Richard Hamula: 'Whatever happens I'll be fine with but hopefully I can still stick around here.'

Leonard Hamm, interim commissioner for the Baltimore City Police Department: ‘Whatever happens, I’m going to be fine.’
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:54 AM
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7. Now that's funny.
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:58 AM
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10. If you have that much free time
You should volunteer at a soup kitchen and help people.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:20 AM
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17. Pot, kettle.
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:15 AM
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13. You forgot ME to my son when he skinned his knee.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:01 AM
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28. lol!
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:57 AM
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8. Not change you can Xerox... dynasty you can Xerox. n/t
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:09 AM
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11. Dynasty's don't die easily. The Clintons have held most of the power
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 10:09 AM by GumboYaYa
in the democratic party for a long time. They are going to put up a fight like we haven't seen in years.

That will make their loss even more sweet to savor. The incredible hypocrisy and bad faith they have exhibited since WI has turned me into a rabid anti-Clintonite. They are truly despicable people.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:14 AM
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12. Thats right
They go kicking, screaming and clawing trying to hold on to power for just..one..more..minute..

The people have come back to take whats rightfully theirs, screw the dynasties, the DLC and the damned lobbyists!
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:19 AM
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15. the DLC represents about half the democratic party
Whereas the CPC represents the other half of the democratic party. I think both groups need to come together whomever the candidate is so we can vote out the republican machine. This includes the president and congress. :)
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:24 AM
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23. This whole process is changing my view of Bill
He really lowered himself and destroyed his legacy just for another chance to get in the white house. Power corrupts, the Clintons are no different.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:16 AM
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14. She didn't plagiarize. She borrowed phrases just like everyone else does.
That is why her attack on Obama was so silly.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:33 AM
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24. Yep
Silly and ill-advised.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:19 AM
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16. Oh, noooo! Not Timeeeh! Why would he do something like that? I'm crushed!
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 10:22 AM by robbedvoter


Besides, Obama's problem was running someone else's entire campaign

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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:02 AM
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29. hmmmmmm
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 11:03 AM by loyalsister
After this expose, I hope that a mentor\protoge flowchart like this appears for every political pair in this country. Trust me, the themes are there in every state government that has a deliberate party with careful quality candidate selection and mentoring.

It's a good thing we're going to make sure that they do get too much guidance, however. Party building and candidate selection should start with ivy leaguers helping ivy leaguers at the grade school level not after law school.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:20 AM
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18. Screw Tim Russert. Where was he when bush was lying about Iraq
or when the bush administration outed a CIA agent, or issues that counted

Don't get me wrong, I realize that when Hillary accussed Barrack of plagiarism, it hypocricy

However, whenever russert comments, his only intention is to cause division within the Democratic party

That is just my take

Did he even mention mccain and the lobbyists?


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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:22 AM
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20. So what do your comments have to do with the original post?
Nothing --- you're employing a diversionary tactic.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:23 AM
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21. try # 16 for that
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:24 AM
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22. Nothing, I just don't like Tim Russert. I don't disagree with the point
I just detest the messenger

Did Russert even mention john mccain and his lobbyist friends? I would suspect not


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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:35 AM
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25. Holy ! Did anyone see the clip Russert played of Hillary screaming at a rally in
Cincinnati yesterday? Man oh man.. she really can't keep up this anger, its very unflattering on her.

Can anyone even imagine what the press and this place would be doing if Obama had "shouted, attacked and SHAMED" Hillary exactly the way she is doing him.. it'd be "Obama is angry.. Obama is a loose cannon.. Obama out of control.." and most notably it'd be:

POOR HILLARY ! Barack is attacking her ! SEXIST.

Sickening.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:43 AM
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26. So far this is not a good morning for the Clintons
The Sunday morning pundits are having a field day with the Clinton plagiarism issue and Clinton's groundless attack on Obama in Ohio.

George Will called her rhetoric "Huckabean". Ouch.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:24 AM
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32. That video clip of Hillary losing it in Ohio will be played at the debate.
And so will the "I am so proud to be up here with Barack Obama" clip.

Then she will be asked which is the real Hillary.

And, she should be asked that question.

"Which time were you lying, Hillary?" will be the question that should be asked.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:15 AM
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33. I'm sure the clip of Senator Clinton mocking Senator Obama will be featured, too.
Perhaps the moderators will air them together.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:55 AM
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34. Yes, they'll show that one, too. Her inner demon revealed itself.
That's the real Hillary - bitter, angry, resentful, and hateful to that which she can never be.

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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:32 AM
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35. All three video clips were shown on some of the network morning news shows this morning.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:45 AM
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27. It depends on what the meaning of the word "plagiarism" is...
:rofl:

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 05:15 AM
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30. Tim Russert is a shitstain n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 05:41 AM
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31. After all, it's only fair.
Lame accusations have a way of biting one in the arse. She's probably wishing she didn't open
up that particular can of worms.

I wonder just how low she can drive down her own negatives. Hmmmmmmmm.
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