Clinton Supporters: If she loses on March 4th, will you join me in supporting Senator Obama?

[PresidentObama]

Whether she stays in the race or not?

If she loses either Texas or Ohio, which I sure hope she doesn't, will you join me in supporting Senator Obama for the Presidency?

She has to win OH, TX, and PA.

And I believe if she loses one, she's finished. If that happens, we have to face reality and be on the right side of history. I've been very proud of the field we've ran this year, and the candidates we presented to the nation. But on March 4th, Hillary Clinton has her last opportunity to make this race a two-person race.

Otherwise, I will have to support the nominee-to-be Senator Obama!

[maddiejoan]

1. I don't know

I mean --it depends on his tone.

I'll have to think about it.

[PresidentObama]

3. At least you're being open minded. I know some have issues with Obama.

[qazplm]

7. dont vote for him

if that's your first reaction to a reasonable question, to be catty and snarky, then vote for Nader, or McCain, or someone else.

I tell you what, I'd vote for Obama, Hillary, Edwards, and pretty much any Dem who's ever run the last three cycles over mcCain with a song in my heart.

[ruggerson]

13. You just got busted

maddiejoan is basically quoting what Michelle Obama said to a reporter who asked her if she'd support Clinton if Obama lost the nomination.

[JackORoses]

41. actually, that's not what Michelle said at all.

She was asked if she would work to support Hillary, and she said she would have to think about it.

Working to support someone is much different than just voting for them.

Just because Michelle didn't say she would be out there volunteering or campaigning for Hillary, doesn't mean she would oppose her if she were the Democratic nominee.

[ruggerson]

52. and the meaning of "is" is...

[Alexander]

85. Since when does "work to support" = "vote"? Did you fail English?

Apparently.

[maddiejoan]

67. I'm not the wife of a candidate for POTUS

I'm just one person who lives in a State guaranteed to go blue.

If we place this on a 'scale', my comment and vote is a drop in the bucket compared to Michelle Obama's ridiculous and malicious bit of slime.

[Alexander]

86. Michelle said she'd vote for Hillary. Sorry your fake outrage blinded you so much.

It's actually kind of sad to watch.

[maddiejoan]

88. You still don't get it.

That's okay.

[apocalypsehow]

89. Ah, but I've noted many of the loudest HRC supporters have little problem posting those kind of

distorted, thinly-veiled falsehoods.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4687099#4692520

[TheDoorbellRang]

62. Problem is, Clinton supporters are quoting her answer and rewording the question

Here's the exact question and answer, with the key words highlighted that everyone seems to leave out:

GMA: Could you see yourself working to support Hillary Clinton should she win the nomination?
MICHELLE OBAMA: I'd have to think about that. I'd have to think about that, her policies, her approach, her tone.

Michelle wasn't asked if she'd support the democratic nominee, she was asked if she'd WORK TO SUPPORT her.

Words are important, especially if they're left out.

[ruggerson]

68. Hillary or Bill wouldn't blink an eye

if asked if they would "work to support" Barack if he is our nominee. They would be out campaigning for him if he asked them to. Hillary, especially, is the personality type who would immediately offer to do whatever she can. Watch her speech at the convention if Barack wins.

You guys parse this over and over and then expect to be taken seriously. Michelle O should have said two words: "of course." Period.

[maddiejoan]

71. The problem is

Michelle Obama's statement, as the wife of a prominent Democratic candidate, is far more damaging than my witholding a vote.

My vote is a grain of sand on a mile long beach, compared to Michelle Obama's words.

Yes. Word DO matter --and Michelle Obama has chosen her's.

[babylonsister]

14. She's being honest; respect that please. nt

[mculator]

19. I was going to

but now i'm not. he's got a rove. no me gusta el barack speechathon obamination

[Auntie Bush]

23. Good one Joan! But it went over too many heads...which are in the clouds.

[papau]

25. hold your nose and vote for him -many of us feel he is a fake that will sell out the left to get GOP

love and a "changed atmosphere" in DC - and that the way he played the race card by accusing Clintons of being racists playing the race card through surrogates means he is more slime that we would ever want - and that he and his wife have an arrogant "we walk on water" attitude that does not help in our feelings toward him.

but he is better than McCain

[ronnykmarshall]

26. You beat me to it!

That was what I was going to say! :yourock:

[skiddlybop]

2. Don't be silly.

Every Clinton voter goes to Obama.

What planet do you live on?

Stop demonizing Hillary voters. Their opinion of YOU goes down from assholery, not their opinion of Obama.

Stop talking out your booty.

[PresidentObama]

6. Nice jab at me. And maybe you should check around DU before saying the following:

"Every Clinton voter goes to Obama."

Unfortunately, that's not so. And the same can be said in vice versa.

[SoFlaJet]

12. we live on the planet of reality

since reading what dozens of Clinton supporters have been saying in thread after thread how they "don't trust him" how they "will never vote for him"-look at my link and there are others from yesterday referenced in that thread where time and again Hillary voters say they will NOT stick with the democrat

[emilyg]

75. Every Clinton voter goes Obama?

I think not.

[AZBlue]

109. Every Clinton voter goes Obama or every Obama voter goes Clinton.

If we want a Dem in the WH next year.

[SoFlaJet]

4. so wait a minute K08

you said of my thread of similar questions and content that "This represents the worst of DU. And the answer is no, I'll vote for Obama. Proudly"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4742394#4743508

[PresidentObama]

8. How is that similiar? You asked about Ralph Nader.

I'm asking if she loses on March 4th, for my fellow Hillary supporters to face reality and support the nominee-to-be Obama.

[SoFlaJet]

21. because

so many Clinton people have said they won't vote for him and I wonder WHERE those votes will be going-what's so wrong about that? One more thing how can a Kerry person now be a Clinton supporter after the way she helped put an end TO a 2008 re-bid with her coming out and criticizing Kerry (along with "her good friend" McCain) for fucking up a joke? How? I can't WAIT to see the Kerry interviews after Obama takes it on March 4th

[PresidentObama]

24. So many want to blame Clinton for what happened in 2004. And so many want to blame...

...him not running in 2008 on Clinton as well.

I don't buy it. I think Senator Kerry knew his Senate seat would be up for grabs, and it's better to stay where you are than try and run again and hope you win. He did the right thing, and I'm glad he did. He's a fine man, and a great Senator!

As for your point about Clinton supporters, I think a lot of them will come around. This would be easier for me, because for over half the race...Senator Obama was my second choice behind Edwards.

[democrattotheend]

34. Kerry couldn't run again, regardless of what Clinton said

The controversy over the joke, as well as the swiftboating in 2004, has essentially made him damaged goods in terms of a presidential run. That and the fact that a lot of Democrats thought he would have won in 2004 if he'd run a better campaign and weren't eager to give him another shot. It's not Hillary Clinton's fault he couldn't run again.

I have grown to really respect John Kerry over the last few years, and he's become a much better progressive voice since 2004. I am glad to have him in the senate and glad to have him supporting Obama, but I was relieved when he decided not to run again.

[jillan]

5. I will vote for Obama in November because he is the Dem.

[TheDebbieDee]

111. I will most likely hold my nose and vote for him in November......

In spite of some of his more obnoxious supporters.

[NYdemocrat089]

9. I will support which ever one of them wins the most delegates (not superdelegates)

I do not want to superdelegates to decide. While I voted for Senator Clinton in the New York Primary, if Senator Obama is far ahead of her in the delegate count, he will receive my support. I'm afraid of this debate between Obama and Clinton lasting too long. I am very proud of both of them, and I think it would be a disaster to ruin on of their chances of winning in November because of a split in the Party over the nomination.

[papau]

27. I will support - and expect super delates to support - whoever got the most votes in total

Obama has gamed the delegate progress and thereby gotten more delegates in states that he lost to Hillary - a result that I will not accept without comment

but if he is nominated he will get my vote - but likely little else.

[griffi94]

10. sorry but no

after the way this primary has gone. i will not under any circumstances vote for obama. not even in november.

[PresidentObama]

11. Sorry to hear that, I hope you reconsider.

Senator Obama would make a great President!

I'm not counting Hillary out, only presenting the question.

[griffi94]

18. i will vote

for all the other democrats on the ticket. i think it's over for hillary.

[Colobo]

40. Reconsider. Do it for your country.

[papau]

33. I have never not voted for the left - but Obama is the first Dem making me think of

doing either no vote or a vote for McCain - but as of now I will vote for him in November - but do little else

[Colobo]

46. I hope Obama wins you over and inspires you to work hard for him in the fall.

[Emit]

15. I will be so disappointed if the answer of most is "No."

[Colobo]

47. Reconsider. Do it for your country.

[Emit]

63. I think you are mistaken

as to my choice of Democratic nominees. I am not a Clinton supporter, but I would vote for her if she gets the nomination. My sentiments in my post above yours was in regard to my disappointment in anticipating that many Clinton supporters here on DU would not vote for Obama in the GE if he is the nominee. I am sorry for any confusion.

[lumberjack_jeff]

16. I will join you in supporting the nominee. Whomever that is.

Until then, I'm supporting the candidate whom I think can bring us universal health care.

[PresidentObama]

Understood, and respected.

[Frances]

17. Just because, after much thought, I voted for HIllary in my

primary doesn't mean that I won't support Obama in the general. Of course, I'll support him. I'm a Dem.

Why would I want a President McCain who will appoint more Scalia types to the Supreme Court? I'm not stupid.

Why would I support Nader who helped give us Bush and the horrible mess this country is in now? Again, I'm not stupid.

[PresidentObama]

20. Good for you. And I'm glad you will.

[Olney Blue]

66. What you said, Frances.

[ruggerson]

22. I thought she should have pulled out after Wisconsin

but it's her choice. I'm a supporter until she withdraws. When that happens, and only when that happens, then I'm an Obama supporter by default.

[Mags]

28. I'D have to think about it a while.

[R_M]

29. I'll write-in Hillary.

[OzarkDem]

30. Sorry, no

I want to see the US get out of Iraq and have real health care reform. I want to see our country get back on track again.

[democrattotheend]

31. And McCain will do that better than Obama?

If McCain wins we're guaranteed to be in Iraq for at least another 4 years.

[papau]

35. If Obama wins it is a sell out for the left to get GOP love - after a slime primary campaign- as of

now he gets my vote in Sept - but little else

[MzShellG]

48. You think McCain will acccomplish your goal and Obama won't? nt

[Colobo]

49. If Ozark is a real Democrat, he'll support the nominee.

[angie_love]

104. Except that McCain has NO health care reform plan. NONE AT ALL.

The only position he has is to stay in Iraq. Obama wants to remove troops within a year. I don't get your posts at all, makes no sense to me.

[cooolandrew]

32. You have my great respect with making a gracious descision. The future counts more than either rival

[Beausoir]

36. Not unless he apologizes for hiring a gay bashing clown in order to pander for votes.

Once he does that, I may consider voting for him. Until he does that, not one nickle and not one minute of my support.

[Colobo]

51. You prefer McCain?

[Beausoir]

72. I prefer Clinton.

Your games are silly. I won't be frightened into supporting someone who goes against my values and morals. I have convictions and I can't just throw those out the window to make Obama supporters happy.

[Colobo]

74. I'm confident Obama will inspire you to vote Democratic in November.

It's simply the right thing to do.

[otohara]

69. She Never Has Aplogized For IWR, But

I would vote for her if she wins the nomination.

One million dead Iraqis, dead American soldiers, Abu Ghraib, twelve billion per month and a country in ruins for God knows how long.

John McCain will be far worse for the GLBT community, wouldn't you agree?

[wyldwolf]

37. Yes. Yes.

When it is obvious Sen. Clinton is mathematically eliminated, I'll be behind our nominee 100%. Without a doubt. I will then defend him as passionately as his supporters have been doing all along.

[citizen snips]

38. Yes but I hope Hillary wins.

I want the race to come to North Carolina.

[IndyOp]

39. I think it may be too early to ask this question - if your heart is hoping for Clinton,

then you are unlikely to be ready to give that up quickly or easily.

I am an Obama supporter who respects Clinton supporters.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

42. Nope, not unless she bows out

"Right side of history" - puh-leeze. WTF does that even mean in this context?

If Senator Obama becomes the nominee, he'll get my vote. I have said it repeatedly and will pledge no more at this time.

[rodeodance]

43. a write in is the option for me.

[onenote]

45. Senator McCain thanks you.

[rodeodance]

53. stop with the crap--You know nothing about my reasons.

[Colobo]

54. Reconsider, dear rodeo. We need to stop McCain.

[rodeodance]

59. Think of some objective reasons for doing write-ins. Thanks

[onenote]

92. I don't give a crap about your reasons...nor does McCain.

He (and I) both care about results. We happen to want different results. He like what you're doing. I don't. Figure it out.

[bridgit]

57. the real thanks go to Obama supporters...

mouthing vile RW t-points = good job :thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

61. bingo------although other factors are important also

[bridgit]

44. Magnanimity can be a two way street. It's easier to support Obama than some 55-60% of his supporters

at least as they practice their wares here at DU.

[Bluestar]

50. No

[Colobo]

56. Reconsider, Bluestar. Think about what McCain will do to our Nation if elected.

[aquarius dawning]

65. Sounds like the politics of terror to me. More of the same IOW.

I'm not afraid of John McCain.

[guruoo]

55. I will vote for Obama in the GE, but I draw the line when it comes to

actually campaigning hand in hand with Clinton swiftboaters.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

77. We Obama supporters and activists feel the same way about Clinton

Look around the country. There are a lot more of us. She'll get my vote, and probably my grudging labor if it looks close, but I can't speak for my fellow Obamans. Especially the young ones.

[Skip Intro]

58. I'll take a pass on the O, thanks.

[mculator]

60. Word!

[aquarius dawning]

64. He's going to have to earn my vote. If you're willing to casually compromise your ideals, that's

your affair but it is not a foregone conclusion that I will just support him to make people on an internet political forum happy. If he offers me nothing or worse, I will not vote for him.

[Beausoir]

70. Well said. Beautifully stated.

[shayes51]

81. I agree. Well stated.

[paperbag_ princess]

101. exactly how I feel

I will support her until she decides to concede..all the way to the convention. If she can gather enough of the pledged delegates, then she has a right to make her case to the superdelegates.

If she concedes, I will sit out awhile and listen...and give Obama a chance to convince me. I feel no automatic loyalty this year. I am ashamed of the misogyny that has been revealed in our party.

No one owed Hillary the nomination.....Obama is not owed our votes. He has to earn them.

Obama supporters have made me not like Obama too...not just the vile and hateful ones...but the ones who offer up overly intense adoration of him as well. It makes me nervous...I don't want to be a associated with any of that.

[Maven]

73. At this point I feel to vote for him would be to ratify his shameful pandering

and I've been so turned off by the tone of his supporters that I don't think I can.

I won't vote for McCain or Nader, obviously--but I may just abstain or do a write-in. My Dem relatives in FL are unsure how they will vote as well.

[emilyg]

76. Pretty much how I feel.

[carlotta]

78. I will unenthusiastically vote for him

A couple of months ago, I would have had a much easier time of saying, of course I'll vote for him.

The more opportunities I've had to see him in action, I'm sorry to say, the less I like him. Each time I hear him, I find there's less "there" there, each time I see his condecension toward Hillary (won't even look at her when she speaks), each time I hear him deliver his same demagoguery, each time I learn more about his willingness to stand down from his principles to appease the other side (open to school vouchers, caving in to Republicans in Illinois Senate on nuclear leaks, etc.), the less confidence I have in him.

And as a newbie, here, I have to admit that the Obama supporters here (not all, but many) have made me like him less.

I will, as I have my entire life, vote for the Democratic candidate, but I will do it reluctantly this time.

[Straight Shooter]

79. He gets my vote because I care about the USSC and the environment.

Another election, another back-against-the-wall vote.

I'm not convinced he won't compromise the environment and the Supreme Court, though. All I know is he's better than McCain.

edit: I just re-read your post. No. As long as Hillary stays in the race, I support her completely. If she drops out, then I'll be apathetic about Obama until the election. He's done too much emotional damage to those I care about.

[PresidentObama]

80. Kick n/t

[jlake]

82. I don't think I can.

[angie_love]

105. I took the time to write a long detailed post to you on Obamas stance on gay

issues and you didn't even bother to respond. How KIND of you.

[BlackVelvet04]

83. No n/t

[NastyRiffraff]

84. For the LAST time, and only since a non-Obama supporter is asking:

Yes, I will vote for the Democratic nominee

From now on, I'll either not reply to the interminable posts about this, or I'll answer with "none of your business." Done.

[PresidentObama]

91. If you're not comfortable with responding to the OP, just ignore it.

[NastyRiffraff]

96. I responded to you because you're not one of those Obama supporters with faux outrage.

I will no longer respond to any of them.

[theHandpuppet]

87. No.

Sorry, but no.

[Jennos20]

90. I would rather vote for Britney Spears than Barack Obama

Sorry.

[joeybee12]

93. No

sometimes I think I could, then I see all this shit being posted by his supporters and I just can't bring myself to support someone with so many delusional supporters.

[TankLV]

94. No fucking way - I'll sit home.

His pandering to gay basher McGurkin was the deal breaker for me...

his idiotic "supporters" here put the icing on that cake...with their trying unsuccessfully to spread their DADT and DOMA bullshit...

your hatred of anything Clinton did you in for me - now you all can go fuck off...

they obviously don't want me, so I will be busy with more important things if he is tha nominee...

[jannyk]

95. no - nt.

[comradebillyboy]

97. I'll wait till Obama wins the nomination

with a majority of the delegates, or until Hillary concedes.

[Hobarticus]

98. No, I'm not joining anything...but I'll vote for the Dem nom

Fair 'nuff?

[jbm]

99. nope

I'll work on the races we can win, instead of wasting time and money on a candidate that doesn't have one chance in hell of making it in a general election.

[Sybbis]

100. I won't join you...

Just pull that Michelle Obama quote. The one about how/why she's "not sure" that she can vote for Hillary Clinton for president. She has to check on Clinton's "positions" which she knows damn well are exactly the same as Barack Obama's.

Granted, Michelle Obama's been mouthing off like a silly cow quite a bit lately. That voting quote of hers will be useful against Obamaniacs trying to force everyone to commit to him. I was initially impressed by her but honestly, what a tool. How intelligent do you have to be to know that you can't insult America when your husband is running to be the President of the United States? She couldn't just say, "I've never been more proud to be an American than I am today." Is she on medication?

Obama's obnoxious supporters have NO idea what the consequences are for the damage they have done. If he gets the nomination, they've cost him the election. It's not just here on the DU, it's everywhere.

A friend of mine in Boston was shouted at and insulted by Obama supporters while she held up a Hillary sign on Super Tuesday. They chose to do this to her in the street, in front of her small children. Yeah, way to teach the kids about participatory democracy Obamaniacs! I've heard similarly appalling stories about Obama supporters in Maine, Texas, California and all over the country. Their rudeness and complete lack of respect for other Democrats has alienated hard-working Party members. These are the people who have been working presidential elections for 30 and 40 years. These are the people that Obama needs for the general and won't get. It's not his fault, either.

Barack Obama wasn't driving around screaming abuse at Democrats and their kids on Super Tuesday. It was YOU. (Not "you" meaning the OP, "you" meaning crazed Obama supporters.)

[hillary]

102. No

Never

[Rosa Luxemburg]

103. Either you are a Democratic party supporter or not

the Democratic Party supporter will support the nominee otherwise a Republican will be elected period.

[Blue_In_AK]

106. I'm not a Clinton supporter

but I'm not supporting Obama either. I'll vote for him, that's it.

[AJH032]

107. If Obama supporters are more welcoming

and don't attack Clinton by throwing hateful trash at her every chance they get...

then yes, I'd be happy to support Obama.

[Raejeanowl]

108. No

Not until I hear it from her. Then I would support Obama to get a Dem into the White House, not because I think he'd make the better president.

[goldcanyonaz]

110. I'd have to think about supporting Obama, his policies, his approach, his tone.

[doc03]

112. No n/t

[AGirl]

113. No.