Is Hillary Clinton now ACTIVELY trying to harm the Democratic Party?

[Unsane]

I wonder because, instead of opposing Obama on policy differences, she is attacking him personally. For example the plagiarism nonsense, and now she is mocking his hopeful message. Knowing she has only a small chance at the nomination, what kinds of motives can she have for doing this? She is trying to harm his viability in a fit of vengeance. Anyone else see this?

[mculator]

1. BOO

She's trying to save us!

[Unsane]

3. Thanks. Now go play with your blocks.

[BooScout]

26. way to unite people

:eyes:

[mythyc]

37. "tu quoque": doesn't the same silly snide quip

apply for her? got some you hillarites have the worst case of pot kettle syndrome i've seen in 25 years following politics...

[polichick]

2. I think she's just throwing everything in the room...

...hoping something will stick ~ she doesn't realize what it looks like, or what it might do to the party.

[Unsane]

6. Which is reason enough in itself to cease supporting her.

[Mme. Defarge]

20. She's cutting off her nose

to spite her face. She is validating the uneasiness I have had all along about her motives and qualifications for holding a high office. A part of me genuinely wishes I had been wrong because it is really painful watching someone self-destruct in such a public and damaging way.

[polichick]

22. It's sad - and it was sad to watch her husband go through his ordeal...

Self-sabbotage must go hand in hand with a certain kind of ambition.

[Mme. Defarge]

34. "Pride goeth

before the fall."

[BringBigDogBack]

4. Agree. The latest shit needs to stop.

I think it only ends up hurting the Clintons tho.

[quantass]

5. Obviously she is trying to DESTROY the party -- If she cant win then noone should...

[caligirl]

7. In an interview with Tx Monthly she said she intends to get the Fl Mi

delegates seated, of course Bill Nelson tried that in court and the courts said no. The parties have a right to enforce their own rules.

[ErnestoG]

8. Yes, if it gets in the way of her ambitions.

And I'm shocked more people cannot see this. She has "entitlement" written all over her.

[MannyGoldstein]

9. She Wants To Clear A Path To 2012

The Clintons have aways followed a policy of destroying anything that can compete with them - one reason why we lost Congress as soon as Bill was in the White House, and we got it back as soon as the last Clinton stooge was out of the DNC.

[polichick]

15. Gosh, that's scary! nt

[gravity]

10. No she isn't

She might be crossing the line for her own personal gain, but she isn't actively trying to harm the Democratic party

[Maddy McCall]

11. No.

[Changenow]

12. Yes. nt

[DemGa]

13. This new line of Obama attack has ONE purpose

BLAME Hillary if Obama gets the nomination and then LOSES the GE.

[ErnestoG]

17. Hillary ties McCain, Obama beats him in a poll match up.

So, wanna try that one again?

[DemGa]

19. Hillary's been through the right-wing machine and came out winning

Obama is untested -- pre-swift boat numbers.

Next.

[ErnestoG]

24. Thank you for admitting she is behind.

[griffi94]

25. correct

at this same point in 2004 kerry was leading bush. the democrats haven't won anything yet.
i don't know about your theory that this is to blame hillary in the event obama loses. i do think he has an excellent chance to lose tho, so who knows.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

14. small, vengeful, mean-spirited person, who knows no other way.

this is the real deal, the real hillary. the real person inside. Now we see why so many secret service people hated her detail, now we see why ex-aides felt stepped upon and abused. Now we see why she has pissed off so many. She is NOT that bright, just arrogant, willful, and hungry for power.

[QC]

16. Is this your first campaign? n/t

[lligrd]

18. Was LIEberman? I Think They Are From The Same Group

and yes, if the Democrats won't give them what they want they will do their best to destroy the party. I find this utterly sickening.

[ErnestoG]

28. Blood brothers and sisters....

[MrSlayer]

21. No, she's just trying to win.

She really doesn't have any more cards to play, the momentum is totally with Obama and she has to do something to try and hold on. Her message alone is not doing it because while it isn't much different than Obama's, she is far less charismatic. All she has left is negativity which does sometimes work. I believe she cares about the party and would not actively try to hurt it out of spite. These attacks are her last chance. If she loses on March 4th and still doesn't concede to Obama then the claim might have some validity.

[Saturday]

23. No, but YOU are. n/t

[ORDem]

27. Oh, she knows she's going to lose so she's just being herself and having a bit of fun. n/t

:yoiks:

[Tarc]

29. Since he has been acting pretty reprehensible lately with the health care distortions

then attacking his character is very much fair game. If Obama doesn't' like it, then perhaps he should stop lying.

[paulk]

30. she's trying to win the nomination

the race isn't over, as much as the Obama nation would like it to be - and if you think these attacks are personal, just wait 'til the Republican's get their teeth in Obama'a ass.

[jody]

31. No and neither is BO. n/t

[my3boyz]

32. Yes...she knows she is going to lose so

she wants to make sure Obama does not win the General Election. Then she can run again in 4 years. That is exactly what she is doing.

[End Of The Road]

33. It's politics, period.

Every time someone posts "for the sake of the party" I read: "for the sake of the candidate the OP supports."

[rodeodance]

35. get a grip

[TooBigaTent]

36. I think the BO is doing more harm to the party with his throwing liberals under

his victory bus. Will he draw enough republics in to replace the life-long Democrats who are fed up with the corporatization of the party? That is what he is gambling on.

But what will that do the values that the party pushes? The Democratic Party is already moving (actively propelling toward rather than sliding toward) too far to the right in its quest for power. How will it ever correct its course when even more right-wing/moderates come into the party and start asserting THEIR views?

[RaleighNCDUer]

38. It's not Hillary - it's the DLC.

They pressured Kerry into surrendering in '04, aided with lies about his chances on an Ohio recount. They wanted to set up Hillary for '08. Now, rather than empower a candidate with populist backing (whether he is himself a populist or not) they would rather see the Democrats defeated to preserve the DLC's anti-populist strategies for '12. They don't want Obama backers to gel into a real populist movement that will undo everything the DLC has worked toward since '85.

She's getting bad advice from bad people, which is ultimately detrimental to the Democratic party.

(Not that she is an un-willing, or unaware, participant, however.)