Is Hillary "battle-tested"

[ProSense]

Hillary and her surrogates are despicably feeding the media angles of attack. Her campaign has been vigorously pushing Obama's links to Rezko (a non-story) and Exelon, despite her hypocrisy on the issue.

The claim is that Hillary is "battle-tested and that Obama doesn't know how to or isn't prepared. So what have the Republicans got?

Republicans Gearing Up To Attack Obama

Among their points against him, according to a plan laid out at an RNC retreat:

• He is not ready to be commander in chief.
  
  
• Taking a page from the Hillary Clinton campaign, he had a "pattern of voting 'present'" in the Illinois legislature.
  
  
• The Republicans "can be confident in a campaign about issues," seemingly in contrast to his mere rhetoric.
  
  
• He is inexperienced.

Well, there's more, attacking Obama's patriotism.

Certainly the GOP can and will invent more potentially damaging lines of attack that these, but it will require some creative.

As for Hillary, why is Whitewater back in the news? Is this an attempt to show she's been vetted? Let's see:

Whitewater probe involved first lady

By The Associated Press Sun Feb 24, 11:19 AM ET

Events during the Whitewater investigation involving Hillary Rodham Clinton:

1992:

March 8: The New York Times raises questions about an old real estate venture in the Ozarks involving the Clintons and former savings and loan owner Jim McDougal and his wife, Susan. Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton say they lost money on the investment in Whitewater Estates. Separately, reporters question Hillary Clinton's previous work for the McDougals' S&L. Because of the media allegations, federal regulators send investigators to Little Rock, Ark., to review the S&L's records.

September: Regulators make a criminal referral to the FBI regarding the McDougals' failed financial institution, alleging that the McDougals' may have fraudulently misused bank accounts to benefit Whitewater.

<...>

1995:

Aug. 17: The McDouglas are indicted along with Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker for alleged crimes involving the McDougals' S&L.

1996:

Jan. 5: The Clintons' lawyer turns over copies of Hillary Clinton's law firm billing records documenting more work by her for the McDougals' savings and loan than investigators had previously known. The White House says the records had been discovered the previous day by an aide in a storage area of the White House family residence. The records reveal that Hillary Clinton billed the S&L for drafting a real estate document that regulators concluded was misleading. Prosecutors later concluded that McDougal and others had used her legal work to conceal unlawful activity.

Jan. 26: Hillary Clinton is subpoenaed before a federal grand jury and is asked whether the S&L billing records were taken from Foster's office after his death. She testifies she did not know where the billing records came from.

2001:

Jan. 5: In a final report, the independent counsel's office concludes there is no substantial evidence to find that Hillary Clinton was a knowing participant in the criminal conduct of McDougal or others. The prosecutors' report says there is insufficient evidence to prove that her statements that she did not recall the details of her work for the McDougals' S&L were knowingly false.

To quote Clinton spokesman Phil Singer, "Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue."

Still, if the media has to check into the Clintons' dealings, there are a lot more current and murky money deals to delve into:

Hillary's Curious Campaign Loan

Follow the money

The Clintons Kazakhstan problem

Clinton responds on Kazakh issue



“Shame On You, Barack Obama”



If Hillary thinks mailers from the Obama campaign are her biggest worries, she needs to thinks again.

Feigned outrage aside, what is Hillary hiding?

[mtnsnake]

1. Does the sun rise in the east?

Of course she's battle tested. Why would anyone even bother to ask that? :shrug:

[MindMatter]

17. Correct me if I'm wrong, but

has she not run only two campaigns in her life. The first was a Senate seat in NY (an heavily Democratic state) that was grooved for her, with essentially no primary opposition. And the second was a reelection to that same seat, again with minimal opposition.

Her opponents, in case you forget (which would be really easy because they are so forgettable), were Rick Lazio and John Spencer. Those aren't exactly big league bruisers.

Tell me when she became battle tested?

[Lint Head]

2. Hillary is "battle-tested" when it comes to defending her

husband against adultery. She failed the test when it came to supporting the battles and war in Iraq.:dem:

[surfermaw]

3. Hillary is battled tested

She is battled tested, White water was a 100 thousand dollar deal gone sour nothing more, you Obama people are using right wing Conservative Republican shit against her. If I were you I would considere the consequences when it is time for the General Election...Sometimes I think this board is loaded with republican, other wise why would domocrats be using right wing junk about democrats...better get your act togeather, you may be begging for hillary votes if Ralph N...is in the race....

[Cha]

4. You get your act together and while

you're at it..tell that inevitable one you support to get her's together.

[ProSense]

14. "other wise why would domocrats be using right wing junk" Are you serious?

It's pretty clear that Hillary and her surrogates believe the Rovian tactics they're using make them better Democrats than everyone else.

Unbelievable!

[stellanoir]

5. I'm sick of fighting

can't we all just get along?

[XemaSab]

6. I can think of a lot of people and things that are battle-tested

The Confederate Army
The Mujajadeen
Custer
Hamas
Fidel Castro


Note that I am not comparing Hillary to any of these people or groups, I'm just saying that battle-tested is not necessarily a great thing.

[whatchamacallit]

7. Battle tested or "Battle-axe"?

Duck!

[cottonseed]

8. She's losing the battle for the nomination.

And that is currently her most important battle. Everything else in my mind doesn't really matter.

Good post OP

[tularetom]

9. Clinton stands up to the right wing

She does it by voting for their Iraq war resolution, refusing to admit that supporting that resolution was a mistake, coauthoring a resolution to ban burning of the flag, not voting on FISA etc etc.

She's so battle tested that Obama, who doesn't have 35 years of experience, has out maneuvered her campaign at every stop along the way.

Of course the repubs want her to get the nomination. They know the Dem is gonna win and she'd be very easy to intimidate. Just like Bill was.


I like her, but I'm afraid she's been getting some piss poor advice from her campaign team and also from the dog formerly known as big.

[IndianaGreen]

12. Let's not forget her support of Kyl-Lieberman and opposition to Alito filibuster

and her helping the GOP slime Kerry on a failed joke to a college audience.

[cloud75]

10. yes, attacked for many years and still very popular...she must be doing something right.

[K Gardner]

11. Yes indeed. Popular like an antibiotic-resistant form of the plague.

[ProSense]

13. As this current campaign is proving, each battle is different. n/t

[The River]

15. Battle Tested Indeed

I loved her supporting role in the remake
of the classic battle flick - "Hamburger Hill"
only this time I think it was titled "Hamburger Bill".

[earthlover]

16. Battle tested? Hillary is waging war at Obama. We'll see how this turns out...

So far, he seems to be doing ok....

[ProSense]

18. Not looking good so far. n/t

[Garbo 2004]

19. Not on a national campaign on her own, no & this prelim. campaign doesn't seem to be going well. n/t

[ProSense]

21. True! n/t

[Scurrilous]

20. K & R

:thumbsup:

[stillcool]

22. she's tested at losing battles...

[From The Left]

23. Hillary is a Battle Ax