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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:22 PM Original message |
Obama Gets It. Sadly, Hillary Fails To Understand Political Activism & How Movements Succeed |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Movements are more powerful than machines! nt |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. Very enlightening post..thanks, cs. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. Damn straight ! GO OBAMA !! |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. Obama's the beneficiary, but had nothing to with it. Don't try to |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Is this comment |
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alteredstate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:29 PM Original message |
I don't think so..... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Obama, is TRAINING DEMOCRATIC ACTIVISTS. What the fuck is Hillary doing but spending $25,000 |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Obama training activists? Where? When? n/t |
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alteredstate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Did you bother to read the original post? |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. And I understood it. Obama didn't train anyone ... the movement picked |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Good Christ Freida, don;'t you read before you respond?? |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Duh ... like, yeah ... and it proves my point, dude. The activists picked |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. Good God. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. She's throwing money at consultants. n/t |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Obama is putting the lessons of that history to use. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Actually, he's not ... which bugs me, but doesn't surprise me. As I note |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Look, I saw it on the ground here in Arizona |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. Leadership and Organization |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. and a decade of talking to poor people |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
9. From Wikipedia on Saul Alinsky |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. once you drink the Power Kool-Aid you no longer want to be closely aligned with the unwashed masses |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. It's the tale of how someone gains power, stays too long, and forgets how they got there. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
11. Oh that is too funny |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Here's a good article on that |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. She's too far removed |
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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. I don't think she fails to understand it, |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. 1992? A grass roots organization to what end? Where was the movement to train Democrats nationally? |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
13. Interesting insight |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
16. Interesting read! Words AND action! LOVE it! |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. You should add this link to your post |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 04:50 AM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Nice Article nt |
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alteredstate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
22. I'm going to be ridiculed and accused of "Drinking the Kool-Aid" but I've gotta say it.... |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Thanks so much for your time and effort! |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
27. Mike Kruglik is one of the best people I have ever had the privilege of meeting. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. and the most resistance to Obama won't be racists. It'll be old-guard Democrats |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
34. Reading the entire thread has been time well spent for me. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
36. Terrific and informative post, cryingshame |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 05:28 AM Response to Original message |
37. Obama, as it turns out, knows precisely what he is doing. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
38. Hillary is not really looking for change beyond |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
39. it seems a lot of people have no idea Obama is part of the movement to rebuild the Democratic Party |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
40. Modeled on Camp Wellstone, no doubt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Exactly, like Paul Wellstone. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. kick |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
44. And now that indies and Republicans have chosen our candidate... |
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