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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:36 PM
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Hillary now going after Ohio Ads from unions (3rd party)
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/24/clinton-campaign-goes-after-upcoming-ohio-ad/
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign strongly criticized Barack Obama Sunday for not condemning an outside group's television ad set to run in Ohio on his behalf.

The campaign says the issue is not the content of the ad, but that the Illinois senator has"flip-flopped" from his previous stance on running these kinds of ads.

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson told reporters on a conference call that the campaign has been made aware of an upcoming ad buy from the United Food and Commercial Workers Union set to launch in Ohio on Tuesday. Wolfson said the 1 million-strong union, which backs Obama, is planning on spending "hundreds of thousands of dollars."

Let me see if I get this straight, she has spent the entire weekend ripping him a new asshole and now they are asking him not to support an ad that his supporters have paid for? Their campaign could be managed better by a group of 3rd graders.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:38 PM
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1. And the 527 which was just created to help her
is different how? Both candidates are attacking each other. The difference is that Hillary's poo flinging looks obvious.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:42 PM
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2. Yeah but this is the unions putting it together, not Obama
big difference there.
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:43 PM
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3. Main difference is that the ALP is illegal
The "American Leadership Project" - as the 527 backing Mrs. Clinton calls itself - it is just a thinly-veiled, quickly-formed grouping of wealthy Clinton backers.

That is flatly illegal.

Where as a Union like this one is obviously a real lasting 3rd party organization - that existed LONG before Obama's campaign.

What is totally ridiculous is the Clinton campaign trying to "throw anything" to see what sticks.

Mrs. Clinton is gettin' pretty desperate.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:45 PM
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5. My point was that
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 08:46 PM by u2spirit
She has no right complaining about outside groups helping Obama.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:47 PM
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7. Yes, good point to make
thanks
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:51 PM
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11. They are of a like mind.
People with $100,000 to burn.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:59 PM
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14. Desparate indeed
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:46 PM
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6. Unions are NOT 527's.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:50 PM
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9. Can they run ads outside of election restrictions that govern 527s?
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:43 PM
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4. ROFL
That's it...popcorn for the next week. This implosion is amazing to watch!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:49 PM
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8. I thought there wasn't allowed to be any coordination/communication between the campaign and a 527
But the campaign has the authority to stop them?

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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:50 PM
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10. Why did Senator Clinton not criticize the AFSCME Obama health ad on her behalf?

Remember the ad didn't mention Senator Clinton at all. It poked at Obama's health plan, and laid the blame on Edwards that had nothing to do with it. Remember that Senator Clinton?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/21/530523.aspx

Posted: Friday, December 21, 2007 4:06 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, Clinton, Obama

From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan and Carrie Dann

The controversy continues over those anti-Obama mailers paid for by Hillary-backing union AFSCME. As reported by NBC/NJ on Wednesday, the direct mail piece going out in Iowa slams Obama's health-care plan as "yet another Band-Aid solution" that leaves "15 million Americans uninsured." That's the argument made by the Clinton campaign, which has criticized Obama's plan for its lack of a universal mandate requiring coverage for all Americans.

But in a conference call sponsored by the Obama campaign, two AFSCME members -- Henry Beyer, the executive director of Illinois' AFSCME chapter, and Carter Woodruff, a former state treasurer of AFSCME in Iowa -- criticized the mailer on the grounds that AFSCME has had a long-held position against mandates for healthcare.

Beyer said he was "dismayed" to see the direct mail piece. "We've always opposed individual mandates. We were very concerned about the Massachusetts plan," he said referencing the health-care plan passed under Gov. Romney in Massachusetts, which required state residents to purchase health insurance.

Woodruff had harsh words for his international union, calling the mailer a "desperate attempt to attack" Obama and "hypocritical" considering the union's previous stances on mandates. He attributed the attack on Obama's gain in the polls. "Senator Obama has gained with Senator Clinton here in Iowa, and in some polls he was in the lead. Currently they are still neck and neck, and I think they are scared."

The AFSCME flier also caused controversy earlier this week because it quotes Edwards -- not Clinton -- as a critic of Obama's policy. The Edwards campaign yesterday responded by decrying the reference as a misleading attempt by AFSCME and the Clinton campaign to disguise the source of the negative attack.

AFSCME's backing is a key element of Clinton's ground game in Iowa, with its launch of massive independent expenditure efforts and its mobilization of volunteers in the state.


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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:51 PM
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12. AFSCME doesn't count
Welcome to the list! :hi:
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:56 PM
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13. LOL

I've been on lists all my life.

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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:02 PM
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15. Barack Obama controls the unions now?
Jeeze Louise... This "I'm a poor victim" stuff is really getting old.
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